New PROcede beta maps (7-29), firmware and User Software - Page 3 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

fotios335i · 07-30-2009, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bestsw20

Shiv, just want to make sure with the new Ignition Correction %.. is the new 200% equals to the old 100%? If so, old 50% equals to new 100%?

Im wondering about this as well.

scalbert · 07-30-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bestsw20

Shiv, just want to make sure with the new Ignition Correction %.. is the new 200% equals to the old 100%? If so, old 50% equals to new 100%?

No, 100% is still 100%. But if you are knocking due to whatever reason, you can add in additional CPS offsetting by going up to 200%.

Army X5 S5 · 07-30-2009, 03:42 PM

I think the non-doomsday maps are set to 50%, and the doomsday maps are set to 100%... but I could be wrong... But that's what I got when I uploaded the non-doomsday and doomsday maps... (7-29)

Sniz · 07-30-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

Don't know much about race gas. Is 100 octane (Sunoco 260 GT) good enough to lower ignition advance close to 0% or do you need 104 octane (Sunoco 260 GT Plus or VP MS109)?

Scott,
just poney up the bucks and go to the Sunoco station off Rt. 70 in Middletown/Myersville.

Thats where Clem and I always get our 5 gallon drums of 104 octane ....Sunoco 260 GT Plus...that stuff is GLORIOUS!!

hmmm wonder what my "new" car will feel like w/ a tank of tha goodness and the boost turned up to say 15psi....hmmmm

scalbert · 07-30-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Army335xi

I think the non-doomsday maps are set to 50%, and the doomsday maps are set to 100%... but I could be wrong... But that's what I got when I uploaded the non-doomsday and doomsday maps... (7-29)

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=32

shiv@vishnu · 07-30-2009, 03:47 PM

Wow.. People are making it more confusing than it really is. Lol

1) 100% is still 100%
2) The default ign corr% in all the maps (DD and nonDD alike) is still 100%. If this is not the case for you, you are either running the new software with an older map, or visa versa and didn't follow the directions

Shiv

Army X5 S5 · 07-30-2009, 03:53 PM

Hmm ok, I'll re-check but I downloaded the software this morning and this is what i got... no matter, i'll try again..

edo · 07-30-2009, 04:28 PM

Tested the new maps today racing against E92 M3.
Here's my previous race with 5-29 maps:

This time I pulled harder on him right from the start. However, as soon as I shifted into 5th, he cought me up and overtook me shortly. At the end of the 6th gear he had ~3-4 car lengths on me. I'll post videos after the weekend.

So, it seems like low end is stronger but top end is weaker. I suspect this could be due to new safety feature when boost is reduced when oil temperature reaches 258F. This kind of sucks as it is impossible to keep the temperature below 258F when racing up to such speeds with stock OC.

scottp999 · 07-30-2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by edo

Tested the new maps today racing against E92 M3.
Here's my previous race with 5-29 maps:

This time I pulled harder on him right from the start. However, as soon as I shifted into 5th, he cought me up and overtook me shortly. At the end of the 6th gear he had ~3-4 car lengths on me. I'll post videos after the weekend.

So, it seems like low end is stronger but top end is weaker. I suspect this could be due to new safety feature when boost is reduced when oil temperature reaches 258F. This kind of sucks as it is impossible to keep the temperature below 258F when racing up to such speeds with stock OC.

Hmmm. I've never seen mine over 250 with the stock OC, but I have never buried the needle like that. What type of oil are you running?

jpsimon · 07-30-2009, 04:48 PM

that's weird, i can't get mine over 250 with super hard driving doing pull after pull after pull in 3rd gear and 3-4 gear. The highest I see is 240... 245, and that is with NO factory oil cooler.

it was 95 degrees today and I was doing a bunch of pulls and never saw over 245

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Originally Posted by edo

Tested the new maps today racing against E92 M3.
Here's my previous race with 5-29 maps:

This time I pulled harder on him right from the start. However, as soon as I shifted into 5th, he cought me up and overtook me shortly. At the end of the 6th gear he had ~3-4 car lengths on me. I'll post videos after the weekend.

So, it seems like low end is stronger but top end is weaker. I suspect this could be due to new safety feature when boost is reduced when oil temperature reaches 258F. This kind of sucks as it is impossible to keep the temperature below 258F when racing up to such speeds with stock OC.

edo · 07-30-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottp999

Hmmm. I've never seen mine over 250 with the stock OC, but I have never buried the needle like that. What type of oil are you running?

Castrol Edge Formula RS 0W-40. The one BMW recommends.
Have you ever raced 50-300km/h (30-180+mph)? Try it and you'll see 270+, especially after a second run in a row.

shiv@vishnu · 07-30-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by edo

Tested the new maps today racing against E92 M3.
Here's my previous race with 5-29 maps:

This time I pulled harder on him right from the start. However, as soon as I shifted into 5th, he cought me up and overtook me shortly. At the end of the 6th gear he had ~3-4 car lengths on me. I'll post videos after the weekend.

So, it seems like low end is stronger but top end is weaker. I suspect this could be due to new safety feature when boost is reduced when oil temperature reaches 258F. This kind of sucks as it is impossible to keep the temperature below 258F when racing up to such speeds with stock OC.

258F is pretty darn hot. I wouldn't be bummed out about the PROcede dropping boost when temps go above that... yikes!!

shiv

edo · 07-30-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

that's weird, i can't get mine over 250 with super hard driving doing pull after pull after pull in 3rd gear and 3-4 gear. The highest I see is 240... 245, and that is with NO factory oil cooler.

It is difficult to get mine over 250 in 3-4 gear too. Just try to do some 2-6th gear WOTs.

edo · 07-30-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

258F is pretty darn hot. I wouldn't be bummed out about the PROcede dropping boost when temps go above that... yikes!!

shiv

I had 270+ today after a second 30-180mph run. Too much heat is being generated.
My next mod - oil cooler upgrade.

brianhn1 · 07-30-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

that's weird, i can't get mine over 250 with super hard driving doing pull after pull after pull in 3rd gear and 3-4 gear. The highest I see is 240... 245, and that is with NO factory oil cooler.

it was 95 degrees today and I was doing a bunch of pulls and never saw over 245

Really? That's hard to believe. No stock oil cooler and with all those mods, you don't pass 250F? Maybe the analog gauge is hard to read but it goes over 250 easily. Even I have the stock oil cooler. I have the Performance Steering wheel and every time I get on it up to 4th gear on the 2nd heavy run the indicator is flashing (over 250F) and I see my temps hit 259-265 right away even on a low boost map on an 85F day. I'll have to video it.

edo · 07-30-2009, 04:59 PM

+1
Hard to believe...

fotios335i · 07-30-2009, 04:59 PM

I would expect the oil to get that high and even higher with runs like that. Its no surprise.

fotios335i · 07-30-2009, 05:01 PM

My oil temp has never been a problem with me except when I was racing a viper at speeds past 170mph and the oil temp was a little over 250. I didnt have any problems even before my oil cooler retrofit.

jpsimon · 07-30-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by brianhn1

Really? That's hard to believe. No stock oil cooler and with all those mods, you don't pass 250F? Maybe the analog gauge is hard to read but it goes over 250 easily. Even I have the stock oil cooler. I have the Performance Steering wheel and every time I get on it up to 4th gear on the 2nd heavy run the indicator is flashing (over 250F) and I see my temps hit 259-265 right away even on a low boost map on an 85F day. I'll have to video it.

then the gauge must be broken. I do countless 3rd gear and 3-4th gear pulls and it never goes over 250. Usually sticks right around 240

jpsimon · 07-30-2009, 05:04 PM

just checked a bunch of datalogs looking at the oil temp in their as well, and it never goes over 250, so the gauge in the car isn't wrong.

edo · 07-30-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

just checked a bunch of datalogs looking at the oil temp in their as well, and it never goes over 250, so the gauge in the car isn't wrong.

Which oil do you use?

brianhn1 · 07-30-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

just checked a bunch of datalogs looking at the oil temp in their as well, and it never goes over 250, so the gauge in the car isn't wrong.

Interesting. Do you live in a low humidity area?

07-30-2009, 03:42 PM	#47
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07-30-2009, 03:47 PM	#50
shiv@vishnu BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: PROcede v5 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA Posts: 16,700 iTrader: (0)	Wow.. People are making it more confusing than it really is. Lol 1) 100% is still 100% 2) The default ign corr% in all the maps (DD and nonDD alike) is still 100%. If this is not the case for you, you are either running the new software with an older map, or visa versa and didn't follow the directions Shiv Last edited by shiv@vishnu; 07-30-2009 at 04:45 PM.

07-30-2009, 03:53 PM	#51
Army X5 S5 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: '11 X5 35i / '13 S5 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Deployed to Kuwait Posts: 1,752 iTrader: (2)	Hmm ok, I'll re-check but I downloaded the software this morning and this is what i got... no matter, i'll try again.. __________________ BMW X5 35i: Boopie Exhaust, Boopie Intercooler, K&N Drop in Filter... Audi S5 2013 (Delivery Sept 2013): Mods pending review

07-30-2009, 04:28 PM	#52
edo ****** Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: hell Posts: 838 iTrader: (1)	Tested the new maps today racing against E92 M3. Here's my previous race with 5-29 maps: This time I pulled harder on him right from the start. However, as soon as I shifted into 5th, he cought me up and overtook me shortly. At the end of the 6th gear he had ~3-4 car lengths on me. I'll post videos after the weekend. So, it seems like low end is stronger but top end is weaker. I suspect this could be due to new safety feature when boost is reduced when oil temperature reaches 258F. This kind of sucks as it is impossible to keep the temperature below 258F when racing up to such speeds with stock OC. __________________ Mods: RB turbos, PROcede Rev2.5 V5, BMS DCI, Scoops, Forge DVs, ar design catless DPs, Milltek exhaust system, Helix FMIC, Quaife LSD, VK MotorWerks OC Kit, Bilstein B16 PSS10 The ultimate mods' installation thread

07-30-2009, 04:59 PM	#60
edo ****** Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: hell Posts: 838 iTrader: (1)	+1 Hard to believe... __________________ Mods: RB turbos, PROcede Rev2.5 V5, BMS DCI, Scoops, Forge DVs, ar design catless DPs, Milltek exhaust system, Helix FMIC, Quaife LSD, VK MotorWerks OC Kit, Bilstein B16 PSS10 The ultimate mods' installation thread

07-30-2009, 04:59 PM	#61
fotios335i Major General Drives: 12 BSM F30 sportline 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: cape cod MA Posts: 6,371 iTrader: (61)	I would expect the oil to get that high and even higher with runs like that. Its no surprise. __________________ 2012 335i sportline/Msport, M adaptive and vss, sport 8 AT, fully loaded, Black saphire, black dakota leather, M performance front grills, M performance shifter, M performance rear spoiler, M performance power kit, M performance exhaust, 19" 401's, morr vs8.2's coming someday..., front aero lip & more coming....

07-30-2009, 05:01 PM	#62
fotios335i Major General Drives: 12 BSM F30 sportline 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: cape cod MA Posts: 6,371 iTrader: (61)	My oil temp has never been a problem with me except when I was racing a viper at speeds past 170mph and the oil temp was a little over 250. I didnt have any problems even before my oil cooler retrofit. __________________ 2012 335i sportline/Msport, M adaptive and vss, sport 8 AT, fully loaded, Black saphire, black dakota leather, M performance front grills, M performance shifter, M performance rear spoiler, M performance power kit, M performance exhaust, 19" 401's, morr vs8.2's coming someday..., front aero lip & more coming....

07-30-2009, 05:04 PM	#64
jpsimon Team Zissou Drives: 335xi Coupe 6MT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT Posts: 8,797 iTrader: (3)	just checked a bunch of datalogs looking at the oil temp in their as well, and it never goes over 250, so the gauge in the car isn't wrong. __________________ PROcede+Cobb, thule flat-top 6 ski rack, VTT Stg.2 Turbos, PWM meth + ADVAN in-boot meth tank, AMS fmic, catless (ur+ae), SPEC clutch/flywheel, KW V3 coilovers, etc etc etc...

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