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      07-30-2009, 05:09 PM   #67
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during those datalogs it was high 60, low 70% humidity.

I use castrol 5w-30 oil
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      07-30-2009, 05:11 PM   #68
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during those datalogs it was high 60, low 70% humidity.

I use castrol 5w-30 oil
Okay I can understand under those conditions with oil never passing 250. When it reaches about 80F around here, I have problems with high oil temps after a few hard runs. Sometimes I wonder if the thermostat for the oil cooler is slow to kick in once the oil passes a certain threshold temperature.
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      07-30-2009, 05:15 PM   #69
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no no those aren't the temps, it's 80-85° f during those logs. (the 60-70% was humidity)
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Did you post the documentation yet Shiv?

Thank you!
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Okay I can understand under those conditions with oil never passing 250. When it reaches about 80F around here, I have problems with high oil temps after a few hard runs. Sometimes I wonder if the thermostat for the oil cooler is slow to kick in once the oil passes a certain threshold temperature.


The harder you drive, the faster it gets to threshold (obviously).

But it seems to take forever to ramp back down once it hits that point.

I seem to need a good 15 mins of constant airflow via cruising at low throttle to recover back down to 240-245F.

Consecutive WOT runs in 80+ weather seem to get me to 250F pretty quickly. Never see it go much higher though, even when datalogging with the BT cable for an extended period of time.
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driving hard for a bit I never seem to get over 250, always sitting ~248/249, but when I sit in stop and go for 2.5 hours, it starts to creep over the 250 mark to 251 until I get an open stretch and it ratchets back down
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      07-30-2009, 07:02 PM   #73
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Did you post the documentation yet Shiv?

Thank you!
Sure did. Check it out:

http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...ead.php?t=1015

This is just the basic tuning guide. Just enough info to get n00bs started

The Advanced guide will go into more detail and involve things like establishing an ideal timing curve and targeting specific timing values. But that comes later...


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Sure did. Check it out:

http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...ead.php?t=1015

This is just the basic tuning guide. Just enough info to get n00bs started

The Advanced guide will go into more detail and involve things like establishing an ideal timing curve and targeting specific timing values. But that comes later...Shiv
Shiv, for someone with a totally stock car, would you recommend then just leaving all defaults alone? I mean, I would think that your default stage 1 maps already have the "ideal timing curve" built in for stock cars, no?
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Really? That's hard to believe. No stock oil cooler and with all those mods, you don't pass 250F? Maybe the analog gauge is hard to read but it goes over 250 easily. Even I have the stock oil cooler. I have the Performance Steering wheel and every time I get on it up to 4th gear on the 2nd heavy run the indicator is flashing (over 250F) and I see my temps hit 259-265 right away even on a low boost map on an 85F day. I'll have to video it.
I have no oil cooler at all and my oil temps have never been above 250 even when pushing my car hard for 3-4 runs in a row.
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Shiv, for someone with a totally stock car, would you recommend then just leaving all defaults alone? I mean, I would think that your default stage 1 maps already have the "ideal timing curve" built in for stock cars, no?
If you don't want to mess around with anything, then yes, leave the defaults alone. They will make plenty of power while still being nice and safe/conservative for/to your engine. That sounds pretty ideal to me. In the world of tuning street cars, "ideal" rarely means max power

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Do we need to use the CAN Actual values for the custom tuning, or will we see what we need to see from the unadjusted values? I ask for those of us who have yet to upgrade to Rev II but have a BT scanner and want to custom tune.

If we need to have the actual values, can we log with both tools and do some math to come up with the CAN adjusted values shown in the insx? Just wondering how hard it would be to line up the data accurately between the logs to do so.
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If you don't want to mess around with anything, then yes, leave the defaults alone. They will make plenty of power while still being nice and safe/conservative for/to your engine. That sounds pretty ideal to me. In the world of tuning street cars, "ideal" rarely means max power

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Cool. Just scanned the tuning documentation. So if I understand correctly, it's just the ignition timing that one should play with, and not the UT settings? I recall the UT setting for MT stage 1 in the May 29 maps used to be 75%, but it's now 70% in the last sets you've released.

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I just loaded up the non-doomsday 6mt stage 1 maps and firmware. Are the temp protection implemented in these new maps also? It seems to give me regular PROcede power right off the bat when the engine is cold <170 degrees.
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Sure did. Check it out:

http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...ead.php?t=1015

This is just the basic tuning guide. Just enough info to get n00bs started
And it took you almost a month to write the documentation?
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Now that the basics have been laid down... Get us the meth
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      07-31-2009, 01:21 AM   #82
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Is it possible to log the signals CAN DME and CAN Actual with rev 1?

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Unfortunately not possible without Rev.II CANbus
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Unfortunately not possible without Rev.II CANbus
Ok, then I will have a problem doing the Custom Tuning...
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Shiw, would´t it be a good idea to collect all information about the procede as a printable manual.
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      07-31-2009, 04:05 AM   #86
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Ok, then I will have a problem doing the Custom Tuning...
no need to your car is fast enough
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      07-31-2009, 07:03 AM   #88
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ya does that mean rev I users will not be able to custom tune?
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