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      08-15-2009, 08:58 AM   #1
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Question Wanting a DSLR Camera - HELP needed!

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My brother in Law is wanting to spend about £500 on a DSLR Camera. He's never used anything other than a point and click and will probably never get into photography etc, just wants a good camera.

I suggested a Nikon D60 but what is a good camera or package deal for around £500?

Any help will be appreciated, he is looking at buying new so he won't be interested in any you guys may have for sale, sorry.
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      08-15-2009, 09:08 AM   #2
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Yeah, a Nikon D60 is a good choice... That's what I got and I got it for less than $900 USD it was actually around $850 USD. I got it off eBay and it was a big package deal with a tripod, mini tripod, camera, 2 lenses, 2 memory cards, a bag, a hard case, and about 8 other things that don't come to mind right now. But you can find good deals on eBay so I would suggest you look there.
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Yeah i've seen some good deals on ebay too, i'll probably look there. He's been looking at the Nikon D5000 so i'm guessing his budget could be stretched slightly.
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I've got a Canon 400d which is now old hat after 2 years but it's a realy solid camera a takes some spectacular pics. M son has same - see his flikr posts for examples - http://www.flickr.com/photos/stu82/

I think the secret is to ditch the usual kit lens and get at least one good quality lens. Buy a body only if you can which is even better
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^ What he said

Ditch the kit lens and get a decent 18-200 Sigma or something.

Remember, it's YOU that takes the pictures - the camera is merely a tool to do so.

The entry-level EOS350D [for example] is a very capable camera.
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^ What he said

Ditch the kit lens and get a decent 18-200 Sigma or something.

Remember, it's YOU that takes the pictures - the camera is merely a tool to do so.

The entry-level EOS350D [for example] is a very capable camera.
Spot on - it's still a very good camera but the extra pixels on the 400d upwards are worth the money. You can get some great deals if you shop around.

Note: the pop up flash is prone to stick but there's a dead easy DIY and idiot proof fix

I,ve got a 50mm prime lens, a 100 - 300 ef ultrasonic and my favourite day to day 28 - 135 ef ultrasonic image stabiliser (all Canon). Not professional quality but good value.

All are older EF (as opposed to EF-S) type lenses which I feel are generally better quality.
Look out for cheap non digital slrs which often come with a decent lens.
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The d60 still has the old internal motor, so is able to use old lenses, aftermarket lenses, ect.

The new d5000 is using a in lens electric motor, like Canon uses now, they can only take new lenses, and mostly Nikon made lenses, there is little aftermarket suport (Sigma, Tokina, Tamron, ect)

If his budget can be pushed to the d5000, it costs more, but its worth looking at the d90 as well... For the price it is the absolute best pro-sumer camera you can buy... its better then the Canon Rebel T1i (500d i believe its called in europe).


Also... yes the kit lens sucks... but the 18-200 Sigma is a Jack of All Trades, Master of none. when you go wide (18mm) the camera has to correct for barrel distortion |( )| when it goes telephoto (200mm) your asking it to correct for pincushion |) (| by doing this, your asking the lens to do quite a lot... which means the glass and overall quality of the lens suffers. Also, we get returns on Sigma's quite a bit, so go for Tokina or Tamron if you dont want OEM Lenses.

Good glass is the best thing you can have. Matters even more then the overall camera, a Good photographer with a good piece of glass in a d40 can take a picture that will blow away a amateur with a d300 and a kit lens.
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Gotta love my 70-200 Canon L glass.

Not cheap but so, so sharp. Looks good too!

I so so want the 5D MKII..........but £2000!!
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better to go with a used 30D/40D than a new entry level in my view.
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better to go with a used 30D/40D than a new entry level in my view.
yey! Buy my 30D and I can then put it towardsa 5DII
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He's never used anything other than a point and click and will probably never get into photography etc, just wants a good camera.

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If he's not going to get into it in a big way , why bother with a dslr - I get cracking photos from my hybrid. Full manual control but has a massive range zoom on it.

I've had a FZ28 aswell as a 550UZ and now have an SX1 - all hybrid ultrazooms.

Are they an option for him?
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Probably - there are some very capable bridge cameras out there.
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Can't go wrong with Canon and Nikon, check out:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d40.htm

I'd consider buying a D40 and using you're savings for a good lens. The f1.8 (basic 50mm) Nikkor is an awesome lens. You could afford this and a good 18-70 zoom I would have thought.

I have a Nikon D70 and am saving for a D700! Full frame image sensor main reason for holding out.
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Hey guys.

So he went out today and got a Nikon d90. He's over the moon with it. Cheers for all the input guys.
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Not surprised!!! Isn't that a £600 without lense camera?
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Not surprised!!! Isn't that a £600 without lense camera?
Yeah nice camera - £650-worth of body only!
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Hey guys.

So he went out today and got a Nikon d90. He's over the moon with it. Cheers for all the input guys.
Good work. Had mine since Feb and real pleased with it. Sold the 18 - 105mm kit lens which was good and bought the 19-200mm VR which is excellent.
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Okay - i'm in the market...wanna take some arty shots of my car (how sad is that...a few years ago it would have been some loose bint)..

I realise a budget is important....so say £500? What would you get and where?

I do know a bit about f stops and aperture etc. I had an old Canon S40 which i travelled round the world with for a year and took over 10,000 photo's with, so learned a bit by trial and error.

I've seen Sony do some camera's that get good writes up?

Anyway, i know nothing of what's current or even a few years old and what will be best value etc. So all advice welcome Ta in advance
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