jb3 dyno (should i be happy?) - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

original786 · 08-25-2009, 03:06 PM

well long story short, i installed the jb3 yesterday and loved it, it pulls hard..and its fun to drive now..

i went to get it dyno just see what it puts out. i was on a dynojet. over 88 degree weather.

im on map 7 fyi..

any how did about 4 pulls

the most i got out of it was 328hp and 350 tq

oh yeah my mods are only

eisenmann exhaust

and mid pipes

waiting on shop to send me dyno papers thru email will post them later on this afternoon

******here are my results*************

3LiterTT · 08-25-2009, 03:09 PM

Looks like you are running the WRONG map for your mods.

Try Map 5 or even 3 since u have the stock intake.

original786 · 08-25-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3LiterTT

Looks like you are running the WRONG map for your mods.

Try Map 5 or even 3 since u have the stock intake.

hmm i didnt think of that, maybe i will do that since i wont get my intake till next week..

the shop was like that i need to custom tuned on juice box according to my mods... they said car was giving hickups during the pulls before 5k, after that it was smooth

3LiterTT · 08-25-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by original786

hmm i didnt think of that, maybe i will do that since i wont get my intake till next week..

the shop was like that i need to custom tuned on juice box according to my mods... they said car was giving hickups during the pulls before 5k, after that it was smooth

Go with Map 5 or Map 3. Map 7 is too high for just mid pipes and a muffler addition as ur only modifications.

cu_north · 08-25-2009, 03:19 PM

What octane? I agree with the lower map selection just see what happens. Lets see those charts when you get them.

JeffL · 08-25-2009, 03:19 PM

it really doesn't matter what the final numbers are you really need to know the difference from no tune dyno to tune dyno. The power you gain is all that matters. All dyno's read differently.

Sniz · 08-25-2009, 03:23 PM

Please use a lower map, you are going about this all wrong.

Read Terry's instructions, he doesnt recommend certain maps for certain mods for nothing.

i'm sure your car is not very happy right now.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 08-25-2009, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by original786

well long story short, i installed the jb3 yesterday and loved it, it pulls hard..and its fun to drive now..

i went to get it dyno just see what it puts out. i was on a dynojet. over 88 degree weather.

im on map 7 fyi..

any how did about 4 pulls

the most i got out of it was 328hp and 350 tq

oh yeah my mods are only

eisenmann exhaust
and mid pipes

waiting on shop to send me dyno papers thru email will post them later on this afternoon

Map 7 is suggested for 93 octane, downpipes, intake, and intercooler. People often run map 7 with intake and downpipes only, and some people run it with intake only, but its not ideal. May work with 80mph of wind in front of the car but you won't get anywhere near that on the dyno.

Map 3 is probably a better choice otherwise stock, maybe map 5.

Mike

original786 · 08-25-2009, 08:35 PM

can i get it tune for my mods only?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 08-25-2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by original786

can i get it tune for my mods only?

The JB3 and the DME will adapt to your mods when you get them. Catback exhausts don't really do anything for power.

Mike

ZJP · 08-25-2009, 09:57 PM

Get some catless downpipes and a DCI.

original786 · 08-25-2009, 10:16 PM

dme??

3LiterTT · 08-25-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by original786

dme??

DME and ECU are interchangable terms for the most part.

original786 · 08-25-2009, 11:33 PM

thanks

original786 · 08-29-2009, 02:24 AM

uploaded thanks

chime in!!

hotrod182 · 08-29-2009, 08:44 AM

88F is pretty warm. Your HP will go up significantly in cooler temps, and in actual road conditions with better air flow. I have found engine temp and ambient temps have a greater effect on your power than people might think. That is why in my testing, even though scoops may help intake air, the decreased air flow to the radiator actually hampered my performance.

NRG · 08-29-2009, 09:06 AM

Or if you not up for modding, dump some race fuel in there and you're good to go on MAP7 and up.

Zeph · 08-29-2009, 09:27 AM

No point in running map 7 type of boost numbers on the stock FMIC. You might get 1 good pull before the heat-soak sets in but that isn't even certain. I think the recommendations to use map 3 are right on target. Get an FMIC and THEN perhaps a DCI and you should be able to run more boost, like map 7 or whatever.

Your dyno looks about like my duno on just an SSTT on an otherwise stock car. Good luck with it all

NRG · 08-29-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeph

No point in running map 7 type of boost numbers on the stock FMIC. You might get 1 good pull before the heat-soak sets in but that isn't even certain. I think the recommendations to use map 3 are right on target. Get an FMIC and THEN perhaps a DCI and you should be able to run more boost, like map 7 or whatever.

Your dyno looks about like my duno on just an SSTT on an otherwise stock car. Good luck with it all

Correction. SSTT doesn't even come close to his numbers. It's pushing around 310rwhp/330rwtq depending on the dyno. He's numbers are way higher, even running inappropriate map. He definitely needs to add recommended bolt ons to his car or/and up his octane number in order to efficiently dyno MAP7.

Zeph · 08-29-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NRG

Correction. SSTT doesn't even come close to his numbers. It's pushing around 310rwhp/330rwtq depending on the dyno. He's numbers are way higher, even running inappropriate map. He definitely needs to add recommended bolt ons to his car or/and up his octane number in order to efficiently dyno MAP7.

My stock dyno was 291 RWHP and 304 RWTQ. My SSTT only dyno was about like his, like I said "MY DYNO" but more importantly what I meant was how it also dropped off up top a good bit. Regardless, on map 7 it isn't a very good dyno and he probably doesn't have the proper support for that map.

original786 · 08-29-2009, 03:36 PM

thank you guys for all the comments

i got the scoops and bms dci ordered. and getting ar downpipe catless

then you think i can run map 7 with good numbers?

Zeph · 08-29-2009, 03:40 PM

Not to sound redundant but I think FMIC has gotta be changed 1st. I feel like DCI's are going to raise IAT's and without an upgraded FMIC it is just going to make things worse. I also feel like the FMIC is the most restrictive and just all around "shitty" part on the whole car from a performance perspective. I do like DCI's after an FMIC is installed and DP's are great too, don't get me wrong. I know we have 93 octane here and some have ran map 7 on 91 octane (I think hotrod did/does on a stock car) so I guess each car is different.

Good luck with it though

08-25-2009, 03:06 PM	#1
original786 Major Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,426 iTrader: (11)	jb3 dyno (should i be happy?) well long story short, i installed the jb3 yesterday and loved it, it pulls hard..and its fun to drive now.. i went to get it dyno just see what it puts out. i was on a dynojet. over 88 degree weather. im on map 7 fyi.. any how did about 4 pulls the most i got out of it was 328hp and 350 tq oh yeah my mods are only eisenmann exhaust and mid pipes waiting on shop to send me dyno papers thru email will post them later on this afternoon ****here are my results*********** Last edited by original786; 08-29-2009 at 02:21 AM.
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08-25-2009, 03:19 PM	#6
JeffL Major Drives: C63 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,207 iTrader: (1)	it really doesn't matter what the final numbers are you really need to know the difference from no tune dyno to tune dyno. The power you gain is all that matters. All dyno's read differently. __________________ no sig.

08-25-2009, 03:23 PM	#7
Sniz Lieutenant General Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 10,460 iTrader: (1)	Please use a lower map, you are going about this all wrong. Read Terry's instructions, he doesnt recommend certain maps for certain mods for nothing. i'm sure your car is not very happy right now. __________________

08-29-2009, 08:44 AM	#16
hotrod182 . Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,425 iTrader: (0)	88F is pretty warm. Your HP will go up significantly in cooler temps, and in actual road conditions with better air flow. I have found engine temp and ambient temps have a greater effect on your power than people might think. That is why in my testing, even though scoops may help intake air, the decreased air flow to the radiator actually hampered my performance. __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.9 @ 108.3mph 2012 LEAF 130MPGe 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR) 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR) 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)

08-29-2009, 09:06 AM	#17
NRG Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 1,659 iTrader: (5)	Or if you not up for modding, dump some race fuel in there and you're good to go on MAP7 and up. __________________ Retired: 2005 N52 E90 330i Sport 6AT Retired: 2007 N54 E92 335i Sport 6AT Current: 2012 M57 E70 X5 xDrive35D

08-25-2009, 03:09 PM	#2
3LiterTT Banned Drives: 3 Liters 2 Turbos Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: US Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	Looks like you are running the WRONG map for your mods. Try Map 5 or even 3 since u have the stock intake.

08-25-2009, 03:19 PM	#5
cu_north Private First Class Drives: 2007 E90 335i Black/Black Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 156 iTrader: (0)	What octane? I agree with the lower map selection just see what happens. Lets see those charts when you get them.

08-25-2009, 08:35 PM	#9
original786 Major Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,426 iTrader: (11)	can i get it tune for my mods only?

08-25-2009, 09:57 PM	#11
ZJP Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LI, NY Posts: 1,756 iTrader: (7)	Get some catless downpipes and a DCI.

08-25-2009, 10:16 PM	#12
original786 Major Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,426 iTrader: (11)	dme??

08-25-2009, 11:33 PM	#14
original786 Major Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,426 iTrader: (11)	thanks

08-29-2009, 02:24 AM	#15
original786 Major Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,426 iTrader: (11)	uploaded thanks chime in!!

08-29-2009, 09:27 AM	#18
Zeph Major Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 1,393 iTrader: (0)	No point in running map 7 type of boost numbers on the stock FMIC. You might get 1 good pull before the heat-soak sets in but that isn't even certain. I think the recommendations to use map 3 are right on target. Get an FMIC and THEN perhaps a DCI and you should be able to run more boost, like map 7 or whatever. Your dyno looks about like my duno on just an SSTT on an otherwise stock car. Good luck with it all

08-29-2009, 03:36 PM	#21
original786 Major Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,426 iTrader: (11)	thank you guys for all the comments i got the scoops and bms dci ordered. and getting ar downpipe catless then you think i can run map 7 with good numbers?

08-29-2009, 03:40 PM	#22
Zeph Major Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 1,393 iTrader: (0)	Not to sound redundant but I think FMIC has gotta be changed 1st. I feel like DCI's are going to raise IAT's and without an upgraded FMIC it is just going to make things worse. I also feel like the FMIC is the most restrictive and just all around "shitty" part on the whole car from a performance perspective. I do like DCI's after an FMIC is installed and DP's are great too, don't get me wrong. I know we have 93 octane here and some have ran map 7 on 91 octane (I think hotrod did/does on a stock car) so I guess each car is different. Good luck with it though

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