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      09-17-2006, 10:51 PM   #1
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For those with Bimmian "xenon interior light" (or thinking about it), beware

I bought the interior 'xenon' bulbs from Bimmian about 2 months ago, the lighting went from a factory bright yellow to a softer white glow. about 2 weeks ago, my trunk light went out, I figure probably the light bulb burnt or something, tonight, I was in the process of switching out the xenon bulb with my factory one, and to my amazement, the xenon bulb MELTED the plastic light cover!!!

first pic shows the burnt middle section, you can see the burnt part no longer has the 'square pattern'

2nd pic shows the side of the cover that's been melted

3rd pic shows you 3 locations where the bulb has melted the plastic, and it's now welded onto the cover, as you can see I tried to remove the bulb, but cannot do so since it's welded by the melted pastic in 3 spots

I will switch out all my other bulbs tomorrow, back to factory, and yeah, I will be calling Bimmian tomorrow.
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      09-17-2006, 11:51 PM   #3
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I have bimmian xenon like almost 2 moths now and I just check my bulbs and I don't see any problems with it
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This is the first of this problem I have ever heard. Maybe there was a short circuit somewhere right by the bulb that caused it to overheat so much.
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      09-18-2006, 12:02 AM   #5
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what would be some of the possible causes of short circuit? (I'm curious, as I'd like to find out if it's due to the bulb or something I did)

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This is the first of this problem I have ever heard. Maybe there was a short circuit somewhere right by the bulb that caused it to overheat so much.
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maybe went u install it you push it too hard and it was making contact with the plastic and that cause the plastic to melt, check the bulb to see if it have the melted plastic stick to it, that is probably what happens a short circuit will cause the bulb to burn out immediately or blow your fuse.
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maybe none of you have left the interior lights on as long as canucklion has?
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to answer your question, no, it was not touching the plastic. If you look at picture 2, the melted side is not touching the bulb at all. Here's a bird's eye view of it.

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maybe went u install it you push it too hard and it was making contact with the plastic and that cause the plastic to melt, check the bulb to see if it have the melted plastic stick to it, that is probably what happens a short circuit will cause the bulb to burn out immediately or blow your fuse.
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and no you can't push it too hard to make it touch the plastic, the bulb is in suspension, held by the holes in the two metal pieces
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I have seen that kinda thing happen before with cheap lights put in that are too high voltage. But i always thought the bimmian ones where the right voltage and high quality, not like the crappy Xtec ones.
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I have seen that kinda thing happen before with cheap lights put in that are too high voltage. But i always thought the bimmian ones where the right voltage and high quality, not like the crappy Xtec ones.
Don't you mean too high wattage? A bulb that is rated at a higher voltage yet same wattage but plugged into a 12.8V system will be dimmer and cooler. A bulb with a higher wattage but rated for 12.8V will be brighter AND get hotter. It will also draw more current and heat up the wiring.

P=IE, where P is watts, I is current in amperes, and E is voltage. Since the voltage (E) in your car remains the same (barring alternator and/or battery problems) the only variables remaining are P and I. If either of these increases the other increases as well. So, a higher wattage bulb can draw more current. More current means more heat. Even a small bulb can put out an enormous amount of heat.
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Don't you mean too high wattage? A bulb that is rated at a higher voltage yet same wattage but plugged into a 12.8V system will be dimmer and cooler. A bulb with a higher wattage but rated for 12.8V will be brighter AND get hotter. It will also draw more current and heat up the wiring.

P=IE, where P is watts, I is current in amperes, and E is voltage. Since the voltage (E) in your car remains the same (barring alternator and/or battery problems) the only variables remaining are P and I. If either of these increases the other increases as well. So, a higher wattage bulb can draw more current. More current means more heat. Even a small bulb can put out an enormous amount of heat.
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Don't you mean too high wattage? A bulb that is rated at a higher voltage yet same wattage but plugged into a 12.8V system will be dimmer and cooler. A bulb with a higher wattage but rated for 12.8V will be brighter AND get hotter. It will also draw more current and heat up the wiring.

P=IE, where P is watts, I is current in amperes, and E is voltage. Since the voltage (E) in your car remains the same (barring alternator and/or battery problems) the only variables remaining are P and I. If either of these increases the other increases as well. So, a higher wattage bulb can draw more current. More current means more heat. Even a small bulb can put out an enormous amount of heat.

why yes... i do believe i was mistaken...
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Damn dude, you can't get a break, can you? :/
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here is my 2 cents, it will be based on what happen to the rest of the Bimmian bulbs in his car. This one appears to be a bad bulb (the bulb looks like it blew up-look at his bird's eye photo). Why did the bulb blow up? could it be some sort of short circuit as someone said. If it did blow up, it could have generated enough heat at the moment to melt the plastic. 2nd, if all bimmian bulbs are bad, then everywhere you have installed the bulb should show the same melting characteristic. So check the other interior lights where you installed the bimmian to see if it too melted the plastic, if it did not melt, then this is an unfortunate isolated incidence. Another reason why I do not switch light bulb (it involved electrical current and I know very little about it). I hate to buy third party products because I don't know how well they tested their product.
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hey tx, good deduction

but the bulb didn't blow up, it's broken because I was trying to take it out so I can swap the factory bulb in, and as I tried to do that, teh bulb broke (since it's welded to the plastic)

I guess it's was a freak accident, but yeah, I agree with you, no more swapping out anything electrical

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here is my 2 cents, it will be based on what happen to the rest of the Bimmian bulbs in his car. This one appears to be a bad bulb (the bulb looks like it blew up-look at his bird's eye photo). Why did the bulb blow up? could it be some sort of short circuit as someone said. If it did blow up, it could have generated enough heat at the moment to melt the plastic. 2nd, if all bimmian bulbs are bad, then everywhere you have installed the bulb should show the same melting characteristic. So check the other interior lights where you installed the bimmian to see if it too melted the plastic, if it did not melt, then this is an unfortunate isolated incidence. Another reason why I do not switch light bulb (it involved electrical current and I know very little about it). I hate to buy third party products because I don't know how well they tested their product.
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If you guys did not know, blue tinted bulbs made to shine white produce more heat than a standard bulb. If you want the "xenon" look, go for LEDs. They made direct replacements, shine white, consume an insignificant amount of power, and long lasting.
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o wow man, that really blows. i was even thinking about buying those soon, but now im thinking about doing it.
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o wow man, that really blows. i was even thinking about buying those soon, but now im thinking about doing it.
Get the LED's that will prevent this from happening, as we know LED's create far less heat than a lightbulb...thats what i have
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darn, i just ordered these things from bimmian before seeing this thread......let us know how your phone call to them ends up...please.
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Get the LED's that will prevent this from happening, as we know LED's create far less heat than a lightbulb...thats what i have
where do you get the LEDs from?
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