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      10-07-2009, 04:00 PM   #89
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You guys do realize that if you hold the unlock button on the fob then the windows roll down.... and if you then hold it again they roll back up
Nope... Holding the "unlock" button will not roll the windows up once they are down. The "lock" button is supposed to do it - and it does in martkets outside North America. This feature is intentionally disabled in N.A.
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You guys do realize that if you hold the unlock button on the fob then the windows roll down.... and if you then hold it again they roll back up
The windows will not roll back up.
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My dad had an old truck, I think an F-150. The doors would stay locked until you pulled on the handle (from the inside), then they would unlock and open in a single pull. If that old truck could do it, why can't the BMW? And yes, it did have power locks.
MB also auto-locks the doors when in motion, but needs a single pull to unlock. BMW could program it the same way - it sure is an oversight.
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Why are you turning your fog lights on every time you get into the car? Just to annoy oncoming traffic? Or do you live in a permanent fog?
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Nope... Holding the "unlock" button will not roll the windows up once they are down. The "lock" button is supposed to do it - and it does in martkets outside North America. This feature is intentionally disabled in N.A.
ahh, you are correct. You can unroll them with the fob...but not back up again. To roll them all up you have to use the actual key within the fob and turn it to the locked position...That will roll all the windows up.
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My dad had an old truck, I think an F-150. The doors would stay locked until you pulled on the handle (from the inside), then they would unlock and open in a single pull. If that old truck could do it, why can't the BMW? And yes, it did have power locks.
It's not a matter of BMW being "unable" to do it. The "two pulls" design is an intentional safety feature. During emergency maneuvers or particularly sharp turns, some people would instinctively reach out to grab the first thing available. There are documented cases of people getting injured because they accidentally opened the door by grabbing the inside handle.
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It's not a matter of BMW being "unable" to do it. The "two pulls" design is an intentional safety feature. During emergency maneuvers or particularly sharp turns, some people would instinctively reach out to grab for something. There are documented cases of people getting injured because they accidentally opened the door by grabbing the inside handle.
This is a non-issue when the car is standning still.
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It's not a matter of BMW being "unable" to do it. The "two pulls" design is an intentional safety feature. During emergency maneuvers or particularly sharp turns, some people would instinctively reach out to grab for something. There are documented cases of people getting injured because they accidentally opened the door by grabbing the inside handle.
If it's that big of a safety feature they would have included auto locking when the e90 was first released. They wouldn't let you turn it off now. And they could always program it to work that way in park only. My god, it shouldn't be that hard to wrap your head around (BMW)... EDIT= I changed my wording slightly to how I really meant it. At first it sounded like I was bashing Ti335 which wasn't my intention.
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-better quality windshield, one that doesn't chip as easily
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Your car must have some real issues. I've not had either of the last two problems in your list.

I rather like the way the iPod placement works. It's out of the way; but then I don't like there being anything in my interior cabin besides the cups in the cup holder and myself and the passenger in the seats.
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And they could always program it to work that way in park only. My god, it shouldn't be that hard to wrap your head around (BMW)...
I'm not sure they could actually do that with programing alone. It's a mechanical rather than electrical system - the first pull moves the lock, the second pull unhinges the door. They'd need to make the locking mechanism much more complicated in order for it to be able to make two different responses to the same action (single pull of the door handle), which seems more hassle than it's worth...They could, of course, program the computer to unlock all doors when the car is in park but that creates other issues...What if you're stopped in a bad neighborhood and don't want the doors to unlock?

How hard is it to pull the door handle twice anyway? Maybe I'm just so used it that I don't find it annoying...
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If it's that big of a safety feature they would have included auto locking when the e90 was first released. They wouldn't let you turn it off now. And they could always program it to work that way in park only. My god, it shouldn't be that hard to wrap your head around (BMW)... EDIT= I changed my wording slightly to how I really meant it. At first it sounded like I was bashing Ti335 which wasn't my intention.
It was included on the E90 at launch. It was also a dealer program option on the E46.
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It was included on the E90 at launch. It was also a dealer program option on the E46.
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I'm not sure they could actually do that with programing alone. It's a mechanical rather than electrical system - the first pull moves the lock, the second pull unhinges the door. They'd need to make the locking mechanism much more complicated in order for it to be able to make two different responses to the same action (single pull of the door handle), which seems more hassle than it's worth...They could, of course, program the computer to unlock all doors when the car is in park but that creates other issues...What if you're stopped in a bad neighborhood and don't want the doors to unlock?

How hard is it to pull the door handle twice anyway? Maybe I'm just so used it that I don't find it annoying...
As most people have said, it isn't hard for owners, but it sucks when you have new passengers in your car and they use way too much force on the door. Single pull of the handle is done on many cars and shouldn't be too much of a hassle. Having it react differently in drive being tough would depend on how they design it (fully mechanical or have something electrical trigger the actual unlock).

Anyway, we have now beat down this topic to death.
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How hard is it to pull the door handle twice anyway? Maybe I'm just so used it that I don't find it annoying...
I'm used to it, too. The problem is everyone else who rides in my car isn't. They either think I've locked 'em in or, in the example of my bone-headed father in law, damn near rip the handle out of the door. You shouldn't have to give your passengers instructions on door use.

They could have a traditional single-pull mechanical linkage with a system that holds the lock closed on the first pull when the car is moving. The hardware for this is already there (try pushing down on the lock plunger if you don't have the key- impossible).
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Yea, I find that my BMW is the most ergonomically correct and intuitive car I've driven. Try driving a Merc S-Class, where you have to take almost your entire hand off the steering wheel to reach the turn signal controls, or the Infiniti G37, where you have to lean completely out of your seat in order to reach and operate the navigation controls, or any modern Lexus, where you must come to a complete stop before you can use any of the navigation controls.

And people say BMW's are poorly designed...
I would have to agree with this poster. The only other carsI've found with ergonomics as good as the BMW's is my old, '89 Honda Accord Coupe.

The main issues I have with the current e92 is relatively minor. On the inside I'd:
  • move the window buttons back to the center console
  • make the glove box large enough to hold the owner's manual
  • put the auto-wiper "on" indicator somewhere I could see it
  • install a dedicated dimmer switch/knurl for the dashboard lights
  • provide more flexibility in the configuration of the interior, such as offering piping and carpet color selections that the buyer can choose
  • offer real, top-quality hides
  • offer more interior colors -- dark and light greens, better browns, true white, dark and light blues
  • offer a "full leather" interior option

On the outside, I'd:
  • Use smoother paint
  • Offer some "exciting" colors
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I'm used to it, too. The problem is everyone else who rides in my car isn't. They either think I've locked 'em in or, in the example of my bone-headed father in law, damn near rip the handle out of the door. You shouldn't have to give your passengers instructions on door use.

They could have a traditional single-pull mechanical linkage with a system that holds the lock closed on the first pull when the car is moving. The hardware for this is already there (try pushing down on the lock plunger if you don't have the key- impossible).
Haha, fair enough...I hardly ever ride in my car with anyone other than my gf and, occasionally, parents (who also drive BMWs), so I didn't even think of that.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet,

1. Rain sensing sunroof that closes if you accidently leave it open in a parking lot and it starts to rain!

2. Wipers automatically come on when it rains.

3. Bring back the flash light in the glove box

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5. inertial tire pressure monitoring instead of TPMS so wheel swap out is easier.
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No you cant! You can buy an aftermarket thing that disables this. However on a stock car, once the doors are locked you MUST pull the handle twice or press the unlock button. The doors do not auto unlock when pulling the handle.
dont know if you have CA or not but all i have to do is touch anywhere on the door handle and my doors unlock. i dont have to pull twice so ya rtfm if you have ca
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