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      11-12-2006, 09:34 PM   #815
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k thx, where exactly is your shop located? maybe ill make the drive. What size is the prototype exhaust on your car again?
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      11-12-2006, 09:37 PM   #816
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nevermind i found it, 8hr drive from Vegas, i'll prob come up there after my exhaust is done. 2.5" max?
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      11-13-2006, 12:45 AM   #817
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4.2 0-60mph is faster then an m5

if thats true thats unbelievable
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      11-13-2006, 03:49 AM   #818
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weren't the last dynos about 330rwhp? Judging by the videos you have to be sand bagging or the dynos are really conservative. The car pulls so strongly from 60-100. As it is now the acceleration is very similar to a C6 which several hundred pounds lighter and consistantly dynos higher. Can't wait to see your future stages.
Yep, the car dynos at 330-335whp on a somewhat conservatively calibrated Dynojet. On most other dynojets, the car would put down perhaps 345-350whp. Still not a huge number. And no, I'm not sandbagging or claiming less than the car is putting down to the wheels. What you're seeing is the difference between a real, repeatable, dyno performance versus the typical single "glory run" dyno pull that is so common in this market. By "glory run", I mean a single one-time-only run on a fully cooled (sometimes even chilled) car with a bit extra boost and a bit more timing and a bit more octane. Not repeatible in the real world by any means. Pretty useless but sometimes big numbers get a lot of undeserved attention!
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      11-13-2006, 04:57 AM   #819
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Hey J Gannon, I live in LA also and there is a few others who want to do the XEDE so we will all set up a date and Shiv if that is ok with you then we can do it here. I remember you saying if we can get even 3 people then you are willing to come down here, if not that's fine, we will try to get more. I have a busy schedule with work so I know I won't be able to come up there and I'm sure you have a busy schedule also but if you are here a lot then hopefully we can set up a date soon.
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      11-13-2006, 10:28 AM   #820
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i'm really glad bmw put out a turbocharged car. alot of people seem surprised at all these power gains and great numbers. this is the way turbo's are. all you need is an ecu tune and a turbo back exhaust (although i'm not sure exactly how an exhaust is set up with 2 turbos...) and you can get some great, easy, cheap power gains. its like this for every turbo'd car. take for example the wrx.

problem is what would come next after ECU/TBE? up pipe? larger intercooler? bigger turbo's? mod's like that would compromise reliability. sticking with the ecu/tbe is probably the best option between performance and reliability. not to mention the ECU is a reversible process so you could keep your warranty.

i'm interested to see what mods would be good for performance AFTER you put in a TBE/ECU.
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      11-13-2006, 10:54 AM   #821
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I think i will be perfectly happy with the ECU/TBE upgrade...anything else is too much power for my blood.

Cant believe i just said that.
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      11-13-2006, 12:16 PM   #822
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Hey J Gannon, I live in LA also and there is a few others who want to do the XEDE so we will all set up a date and Shiv if that is ok with you then we can do it here. I remember you saying if we can get even 3 people then you are willing to come down here, if not that's fine, we will try to get more. I have a busy schedule with work so I know I won't be able to come up there and I'm sure you have a busy schedule also but if you are here a lot then hopefully we can set up a date soon.


hey im down with that, please keep me posted if we can get Shiv to come down to LA to tune 3+ of our cars, please keep me posted, thank you
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      11-13-2006, 03:36 PM   #823
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I think i will be perfectly happy with the ECU/TBE upgrade...anything else is too much power for my blood.

Cant believe i just said that.
haha... true. i mean to pay a paltry ~45k depending on options to have a great daily driver that will smoke 95% of cars on the road.. it doesnt get much better than that! :rocks:
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True that.
I dont mind paying 3k more for such a significant improvement, especially how non-intrucive the uprgade actually is.

Changing downpipes, headers, bigger turbos, intercooler is something i dont want to get into.

It is a BMW after all, not a "kit car"
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      11-13-2006, 07:39 PM   #825
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Hey Shiv, how many people would we have to get together in order for you to come down to LA and sell a couple of Xedes and tune em yourself?
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Road and Track tested the M5 at 4.1 and 4.2. In a straight line the Tooned 335i will be about the same. Maybe in the curves as well because it's lighter?
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      11-13-2006, 08:51 PM   #827
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Hey Shiv, how many people would we have to get together in order for you to come down to LA and sell a couple of Xedes and tune em yourself?
For LA, 3 would do. And we'd also need some time on a dyno somewhere.

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I too am curious about this tuning as i am waiting on a 335i. I also currently own an evo and a wrx. I read that Dustin says his evo has 450hp with all bolt ons available except garret GT series turbo upgrade. Yet Shiv says Dustin's Evo is retaining the stock Evo 8 turbo which is a TD05HR-16G6-9.8T with the 9.8cm² turbine housing. This particular turbo WILL NOT support 450hp. What explains the discrepancy in this?
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      11-13-2006, 09:25 PM   #829
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ill ask the guy in LA and see what he says, ill be making the drive from Vegas, thx Shiv
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I too am curious about this tuning as i am waiting on a 335i. I also currently own an evo and a wrx. I read that Dustin says his evo has 450hp with all bolt ons available except garret GT series turbo upgrade. Yet Shiv says Dustin's Evo is retaining the stock Evo 8 turbo which is a TD05HR-16G6-9.8T with the 9.8cm² turbine housing. This particular turbo WILL NOT support 450hp. What explains the discrepancy in this?
Ummmm...are you sure you didnt click a series of wrong links on the internet and then by chance, posted a message completely unrelated to any subject in the previous 866 posts?
You might have.

Thats is not normal.
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Road and Track tested the M5 at 4.1 and 4.2. In a straight line the Tooned 335i will be about the same. Maybe in the curves as well because it's lighter?
I believe that R&T tested Euro-spec cars when they acheived those numbers, also...I remember something about "launch program"...

First customer Xede tune, PLEASE post to keep us UTD!
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If i was anywhere near California, i would be there yesterday...but then again, i want the exhaust aswell.
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Shiv,

Please clear your PM space; I cannot shoot you a PM!

All: Miami group looking for one more for December tune. PM if you are interested or visit...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36416
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      11-14-2006, 12:12 AM   #834
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Please clear your PM space; I cannot shoot you a PM!

All: Miami group looking for one more for December tune. PM if you are interested or visit...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36416
oops.. fills up quick. I cleared up some space.

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sstarch1 - nope clicked on the last page after reading the first 3. (yeah i know i skipped the rest but im sure someone didnt mention anything about it) sstarch read pages 3 and 4 in reference to shiv and dustin's posts, then read mine and you'll understand.
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So page 3 and 4 then 40?
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