Take 3: Vishnu 335i coupe Tuning Update - Page 38 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

jgannonloans · 11-12-2006, 09:34 PM

k thx, where exactly is your shop located? maybe ill make the drive. What size is the prototype exhaust on your car again?

jgannonloans · 11-12-2006, 09:37 PM

nevermind i found it, 8hr drive from Vegas, i'll prob come up there after my exhaust is done. 2.5" max?

jgannonloans · 11-13-2006, 12:45 AM

4.2 0-60mph is faster then an m5

if thats true thats unbelievable

shiv@vishnu · 11-13-2006, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torqued

Shiv,

weren't the last dynos about 330rwhp? Judging by the videos you have to be sand bagging

or the dynos are really conservative. The car pulls so strongly from 60-100. As it is now the acceleration is very similar to a C6 which several hundred pounds lighter and consistantly dynos higher. Can't wait to see your future stages.

Yep, the car dynos at 330-335whp on a somewhat conservatively calibrated Dynojet. On most other dynojets, the car would put down perhaps 345-350whp. Still not a huge number. And no, I'm not sandbagging or claiming less than the car is putting down to the wheels. What you're seeing is the difference between a real, repeatable, dyno performance versus the typical single "glory run" dyno pull that is so common in this market. By "glory run", I mean a single one-time-only run on a fully cooled (sometimes even chilled) car with a bit extra boost and a bit more timing and a bit more octane. Not repeatible in the real world by any means. Pretty useless but sometimes big numbers get a lot of undeserved attention!

Omniscient · 11-13-2006, 04:57 AM

Hey J Gannon, I live in LA also and there is a few others who want to do the XEDE so we will all set up a date and Shiv if that is ok with you then we can do it here. I remember you saying if we can get even 3 people then you are willing to come down here, if not that's fine, we will try to get more. I have a busy schedule with work so I know I won't be able to come up there and I'm sure you have a busy schedule also but if you are here a lot then hopefully we can set up a date soon.

herbz · 11-13-2006, 10:28 AM

i'm really glad bmw put out a turbocharged car. alot of people seem surprised at all these power gains and great numbers. this is the way turbo's are. all you need is an ecu tune and a turbo back exhaust (although i'm not sure exactly how an exhaust is set up with 2 turbos...) and you can get some great, easy, cheap power gains. its like this for every turbo'd car. take for example the wrx.

problem is what would come next after ECU/TBE? up pipe? larger intercooler? bigger turbo's? mod's like that would compromise reliability. sticking with the ecu/tbe is probably the best option between performance and reliability. not to mention the ECU is a reversible process so you could keep your warranty.

i'm interested to see what mods would be good for performance AFTER you put in a TBE/ECU.

sstarch1 · 11-13-2006, 10:54 AM

I think i will be perfectly happy with the ECU/TBE upgrade...anything else is too much power for my blood.

Cant believe i just said that.

jgannonloans · 11-13-2006, 12:16 PM

Hey J Gannon, I live in LA also and there is a few others who want to do the XEDE so we will all set up a date and Shiv if that is ok with you then we can do it here. I remember you saying if we can get even 3 people then you are willing to come down here, if not that's fine, we will try to get more. I have a busy schedule with work so I know I won't be able to come up there and I'm sure you have a busy schedule also but if you are here a lot then hopefully we can set up a date soon.

hey im down with that, please keep me posted if we can get Shiv to come down to LA to tune 3+ of our cars, please keep me posted, thank you

herbz · 11-13-2006, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sstarch1

I think i will be perfectly happy with the ECU/TBE upgrade...anything else is too much power for my blood.

Cant believe i just said that.

haha... true. i mean to pay a paltry ~45k depending on options to have a great daily driver that will smoke 95% of cars on the road.. it doesnt get much better than that! :rocks:

sstarch1 · 11-13-2006, 04:17 PM

True that.
I dont mind paying 3k more for such a significant improvement, especially how non-intrucive the uprgade actually is.

Changing downpipes, headers, bigger turbos, intercooler is something i dont want to get into.

It is a BMW after all, not a "kit car"

jgannonloans · 11-13-2006, 07:39 PM

Hey Shiv, how many people would we have to get together in order for you to come down to LA and sell a couple of Xedes and tune em yourself?

335i=:) · 11-13-2006, 08:24 PM

Road and Track tested the M5 at 4.1 and 4.2. In a straight line the Tooned 335i will be about the same. Maybe in the curves as well because it's lighter?

shiv@vishnu · 11-13-2006, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgannonloans

Hey Shiv, how many people would we have to get together in order for you to come down to LA and sell a couple of Xedes and tune em yourself?

For LA, 3 would do. And we'd also need some time on a dyno somewhere.

-shiv

MrJapan · 11-13-2006, 09:24 PM

I too am curious about this tuning as i am waiting on a 335i. I also currently own an evo and a wrx. I read that Dustin says his evo has 450hp with all bolt ons available except garret GT series turbo upgrade. Yet Shiv says Dustin's Evo is retaining the stock Evo 8 turbo which is a TD05HR-16G6-9.8T with the 9.8cm² turbine housing. This particular turbo WILL NOT support 450hp. What explains the discrepancy in this?

jgannonloans · 11-13-2006, 09:25 PM

ill ask the guy in LA and see what he says, ill be making the drive from Vegas, thx Shiv

sstarch1 · 11-13-2006, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrJapan

I too am curious about this tuning as i am waiting on a 335i. I also currently own an evo and a wrx. I read that Dustin says his evo has 450hp with all bolt ons available except garret GT series turbo upgrade. Yet Shiv says Dustin's Evo is retaining the stock Evo 8 turbo which is a TD05HR-16G6-9.8T with the 9.8cm² turbine housing. This particular turbo WILL NOT support 450hp. What explains the discrepancy in this?

Ummmm...are you sure you didnt click a series of wrong links on the internet and then by chance, posted a message completely unrelated to any subject in the previous 866 posts?
You might have.

Thats is not normal.

doctordel · 11-13-2006, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335i=:)

Road and Track tested the M5 at 4.1 and 4.2. In a straight line the Tooned 335i will be about the same. Maybe in the curves as well because it's lighter?

I believe that R&T tested Euro-spec cars when they acheived those numbers, also...I remember something about "launch program"...

First customer Xede tune, PLEASE post to keep us UTD!

sstarch1 · 11-13-2006, 11:10 PM

If i was anywhere near California, i would be there yesterday...but then again, i want the exhaust aswell.

doctordel · 11-14-2006, 12:06 AM

Shiv,

Please clear your PM space; I cannot shoot you a PM!

All: Miami group looking for one more for December tune. PM if you are interested or visit...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36416

shiv@vishnu · 11-14-2006, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctordel

Shiv,

Please clear your PM space; I cannot shoot you a PM!

All: Miami group looking for one more for December tune. PM if you are interested or visit...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36416

oops.. fills up quick. I cleared up some space.

-shiv

MrJapan · 11-14-2006, 12:24 AM

sstarch1 - nope clicked on the last page after reading the first 3. (yeah i know i skipped the rest but im sure someone didnt mention anything about it) sstarch read pages 3 and 4 in reference to shiv and dustin's posts, then read mine and you'll understand.

sstarch1 · 11-14-2006, 07:54 AM

So page 3 and 4 then 40?

11-13-2006, 10:54 AM	#821
sstarch1 From Russia With Boost Drives: E92 335i - Vroom Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,078 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	I think i will be perfectly happy with the ECU/TBE upgrade...anything else is too much power for my blood. Cant believe i just said that. __________________ 2007 BMW 335i - Delivered 9/8/06 Sparkling Grpahite with Black Leather/Aluminum Trim Premium Package, Sports Package, Comfort Access.

11-13-2006, 04:17 PM	#824
sstarch1 From Russia With Boost Drives: E92 335i - Vroom Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,078 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	True that. I dont mind paying 3k more for such a significant improvement, especially how non-intrucive the uprgade actually is. Changing downpipes, headers, bigger turbos, intercooler is something i dont want to get into. It is a BMW after all, not a "kit car" __________________ 2007 BMW 335i - Delivered 9/8/06 Sparkling Grpahite with Black Leather/Aluminum Trim Premium Package, Sports Package, Comfort Access.

11-13-2006, 11:10 PM	#832
sstarch1 From Russia With Boost Drives: E92 335i - Vroom Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,078 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	If i was anywhere near California, i would be there yesterday...but then again, i want the exhaust aswell. __________________ 2007 BMW 335i - Delivered 9/8/06 Sparkling Grpahite with Black Leather/Aluminum Trim Premium Package, Sports Package, Comfort Access.

11-14-2006, 07:54 AM	#836
sstarch1 From Russia With Boost Drives: E92 335i - Vroom Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 1,078 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	So page 3 and 4 then 40? __________________ 2007 BMW 335i - Delivered 9/8/06 Sparkling Grpahite with Black Leather/Aluminum Trim Premium Package, Sports Package, Comfort Access.

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11-12-2006, 09:34 PM	#815
jgannonloans FOR SALE Drives: jet black 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	k thx, where exactly is your shop located? maybe ill make the drive. What size is the prototype exhaust on your car again?

11-12-2006, 09:37 PM	#816
jgannonloans FOR SALE Drives: jet black 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	nevermind i found it, 8hr drive from Vegas, i'll prob come up there after my exhaust is done. 2.5" max?

11-13-2006, 12:45 AM	#817
jgannonloans FOR SALE Drives: jet black 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	4.2 0-60mph is faster then an m5 if thats true thats unbelievable

11-13-2006, 04:57 AM	#819
Omniscient 1998 4 dr M3 -- 2000 328i -- 2003 ZHP 330i -- Drives: 335i space grey/red Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles County Posts: 24 iTrader: (0)	Hey J Gannon, I live in LA also and there is a few others who want to do the XEDE so we will all set up a date and Shiv if that is ok with you then we can do it here. I remember you saying if we can get even 3 people then you are willing to come down here, if not that's fine, we will try to get more. I have a busy schedule with work so I know I won't be able to come up there and I'm sure you have a busy schedule also but if you are here a lot then hopefully we can set up a date soon.

11-13-2006, 10:28 AM	#820
herbz hi Drives: '86 325e Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: outside boston MA Posts: 839 iTrader: (0)	i'm really glad bmw put out a turbocharged car. alot of people seem surprised at all these power gains and great numbers. this is the way turbo's are. all you need is an ecu tune and a turbo back exhaust (although i'm not sure exactly how an exhaust is set up with 2 turbos...) and you can get some great, easy, cheap power gains. its like this for every turbo'd car. take for example the wrx. problem is what would come next after ECU/TBE? up pipe? larger intercooler? bigger turbo's? mod's like that would compromise reliability. sticking with the ecu/tbe is probably the best option between performance and reliability. not to mention the ECU is a reversible process so you could keep your warranty. i'm interested to see what mods would be good for performance AFTER you put in a TBE/ECU.

11-13-2006, 12:16 PM	#822
jgannonloans FOR SALE Drives: jet black 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	Hey J Gannon, I live in LA also and there is a few others who want to do the XEDE so we will all set up a date and Shiv if that is ok with you then we can do it here. I remember you saying if we can get even 3 people then you are willing to come down here, if not that's fine, we will try to get more. I have a busy schedule with work so I know I won't be able to come up there and I'm sure you have a busy schedule also but if you are here a lot then hopefully we can set up a date soon. hey im down with that, please keep me posted if we can get Shiv to come down to LA to tune 3+ of our cars, please keep me posted, thank you

11-13-2006, 07:39 PM	#825
jgannonloans FOR SALE Drives: jet black 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	Hey Shiv, how many people would we have to get together in order for you to come down to LA and sell a couple of Xedes and tune em yourself?

11-13-2006, 08:24 PM	#826
335i=:) Second Lieutenant Drives: 335i sedan-blk/blk-Poplar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: utah Posts: 290 iTrader: (0)	Road and Track tested the M5 at 4.1 and 4.2. In a straight line the Tooned 335i will be about the same. Maybe in the curves as well because it's lighter?

11-13-2006, 09:24 PM	#828
MrJapan New Member Drives: . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	I too am curious about this tuning as i am waiting on a 335i. I also currently own an evo and a wrx. I read that Dustin says his evo has 450hp with all bolt ons available except garret GT series turbo upgrade. Yet Shiv says Dustin's Evo is retaining the stock Evo 8 turbo which is a TD05HR-16G6-9.8T with the 9.8cm² turbine housing. This particular turbo WILL NOT support 450hp. What explains the discrepancy in this?

11-13-2006, 09:25 PM	#829
jgannonloans FOR SALE Drives: jet black 335i Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philly Posts: 279 iTrader: (0)	ill ask the guy in LA and see what he says, ill be making the drive from Vegas, thx Shiv

11-14-2006, 12:06 AM	#833
doctordel sultan of swage Drives: 07 335i coupe, Arrow A8 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: so fla Posts: 65 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i coupe [0.00]	Shiv, Please clear your PM space; I cannot shoot you a PM! All: Miami group looking for one more for December tune. PM if you are interested or visit... http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36416

11-14-2006, 12:24 AM	#835
MrJapan New Member Drives: . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: . Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	sstarch1 - nope clicked on the last page after reading the first 3. (yeah i know i skipped the rest but im sure someone didnt mention anything about it) sstarch read pages 3 and 4 in reference to shiv and dustin's posts, then read mine and you'll understand.