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      11-15-2009, 10:40 AM   #1
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I Drove a Jaguar XF Today

VERY impressed. Not enough to "drive" me away from BMW but I must say that it is quite elegant and actually FUN to drive. It was the 4.2 V8.

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Impressive maybe, but having three cars only starting at $52,000.00, then $72,000.00, then $82,000.00 its hard to get into one, not saying that i want to, just saying i dont think its worth it.
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      11-15-2009, 12:01 PM   #3
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It certainly looks good, but Jag's reliability will always send me running in the other direction.
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      11-15-2009, 12:29 PM   #4
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they do have Elegance!!
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      11-15-2009, 01:04 PM   #5
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A guy I work with has one of the supercharged versions, it is a beautiful car! I think it was about the 3rd day I saw it in the parking lot, it had the passenger door caved in. We have posts that stick out of the parking at the one end, I think he turned too early and hit one of the posts....had to suck. It would have made me sick!
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      11-15-2009, 01:19 PM   #6
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There are quite a few here in Bucharest but to be honest I don't like them design-wise. Too toned down and bland from the original design concept. Also lots of chrome on some trims...no.
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I drove it, and then the CTS-V.

I was actually more impressed with the caddy, even sans the engine advantage.
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they are pretty good looking
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Do we still get the crappy old 4.2 V8 here? So odd that anyone would pick it over the new 5.0. I do like the XF, but I wish they'd done what they did with the XJ and used more aluminum to keep the weight down.

Re. Jag reliability, aren't they right up there with Lexus these days?
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It certainly looks good, but Jag's reliability will always send me running in the other direction.
They topped J.D. Power's Reliability survey awhile back. Yes, More reliable then a Lexus.
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      11-15-2009, 04:36 PM   #11
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I love the look of that car, might drive one just for fun but it would have to blow me away to purchase one.
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They topped J.D. Power's Reliability survey awhile back. Yes, More reliable then a Lexus.
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Shows you how worthless JD Power's is. Ridiculous! Jag's reliability is awful. It's a fact.
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Shows you how worthless JD Power's is. Ridiculous! Jag's reliability is awful. It's a fact.
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Yeah, ever since Ford got their hands off of Jag they've really improved.
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Sexxxy cars!! In my fantasy world they would come in a 6 speed manual...But I can only dream.
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Wait until the F30 5-series comes out next year. The Jag won't seem that impressive all of a sudden. At least old Jags had distinctive styling and a kind of British "aristocratic" appeal that made them unique. Contemporary Jags are just nice Fords.
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Ford doesn't even own Jag dude..
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Ford doesn't even own Jag dude..
So what? Ford's sale of Jaguar to Tata last year did not automatically undo 20 years of previous "Fordification".
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You said the older jags were more distinct..That was when ford owned them right?? Now they don't..
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Shows you how worthless JD Power's is. Ridiculous! Jag's reliability is awful. It's a fact.
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I've been on the XF forum before...Tons of people had problems in the first few months, can't remember with what, but it was a wide range of things.
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Right.
Just going by history here dude. There's absolutely no denying that Jag's reliability has been completely horrendous in very recent history. Maybe that's changing now - cool. But it takes more than a few decent cars for a company to earn back a reliability rating, in my opinion.

While I still believe most of JD Power's surveys and ratings are completely pointless, here are some facts:

Jaguar tops JD Power's Performance and Design Ratings - nothing else. For 2009, Jag was rated poorly for anything to do with quality.

http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...tings-by-brand

According to that chart, they are no where near tops in quality. Chevy, Ford, Honda, Benz, Jeep, GMC, BMW, Porsche, Volvo, Audi, Acura, Hyundai, etc etc - essentially every other major automaker - exceeds Jag's quality in JD Power's tests.

Don't let clever marketing fool you.
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