Found out about a mod for the e90 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Ed_330i · 08-14-2005, 10:52 AM

Im in Florida and there is a auto tuner near me. I called them, they are called Ride btw. and they said they have a piggyback type ECU for the e90 already. Supposed to plug it in and it gives like 45HP to bring it to 300HP even. thing is it drinks gas cause all the special management systems are disabled and such. it becomes like driving a old muscle car. No computers no bullshit. just motor and wheels. he also said i could always just press a button and reflash it to the orginel settings. ill find out more later, but sounds good

mapezzul · 08-14-2005, 12:12 PM

find that hard to believe, considering the valvetronic system and the fact that it would need more air to breath etc.... that would be a 45 hp difference and there is no turbo to change the boost etc. they are full of it unless BMW is rating the motor way too low. I doubt it would be that much of an increase and I would be skeptical of the actual programming if not tested and proven by a known and trusted manufacturer. Just my .02.

LEDZEP · 08-14-2005, 01:30 PM

What a great idea! Pay $40k for a car because of all the brilliant German engineering in the engine and then disable it all, with the added benefit of shitty gas mileage! Oh and wait - I'm sure you void your warranty at the same time!! Gosh, where do we sign up?

Ed_330i · 08-14-2005, 01:33 PM

you are a opinionated snob. the benefit is the 45HP and speed. i understand that some people do not want that, thats a given. not shitty gas mileage more like 12-15. There are people who like added performance.

LEDZEP · 08-14-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Epyon

you are a opinionated snob. the benefit is the 45HP and speed. i understand that some people do not want that, thats a given. not shitty gas mileage more like 12-15. There are people who like added performance.

Well yeah, I make no bones about being opinionated.

Why did you buy such a precision engineered car if that is what you want to do? Just find a nice '69 Camaro and drop a big block in it. Then everyone will know how masculine you are when you demonstrate the sheer strength of pivoting your ankle to apply pressure to the accelerator pedal.

Pangearox · 08-14-2005, 01:45 PM

personally...its a waste...cause i would much rather be able to take my car to Bmw for its bumper to bumper service than have 45 extra hp...

not worth it..to many downsides for the one plus

Arby 330 · 08-14-2005, 02:18 PM

i plan on doing a bunch of mods to my engine..... once my waranty is up. also the benifit of waiting 4 years is that there will be tryed and true methods for performance that we know work and dont cause nearly as much damage yo your engine as a brand new upgrade would.

NaTuReB0Y · 08-14-2005, 02:37 PM

I'm happy with the 255hp........another 45hp probably won't make much of a difference.......and it's still less than the LEXUS IS350....

Oz · 08-14-2005, 06:34 PM

I don't think any driver (unless you're intro racing) needs a mod like that but it is very interesting. I am looking into mods that can use navigation as a dvd player or do more with it.

I am sure most of the people does not the get 325/330 based on its horsepowers. We get it because of its BMW, nothing else

JVFan · 08-14-2005, 07:22 PM

I don't buy it...literally or figuratively...45 horse out of that engine....three months from being released? Sounds like a teenagers essay writing contest.

JVFan · 08-14-2005, 07:22 PM

forgot the emoticon

Barry626 · 08-15-2005, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Epyon

you are a opinionated snob. There are people who like added performance.

He's very much entitled to his opinion, just like u are to post in first place.
Those that want added Performance, are usually little kids that don't know better!

Barry626 · 08-15-2005, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oz

I am sure most of the people does not the get 325/330 based on its horsepowers. We get it because of its BMW, nothing else

Amen

davinet78 · 08-15-2005, 06:48 AM

sounds like a worthless modification to me which is just not feasible.

ward · 08-15-2005, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epyon

you are a opinionated snob. the benefit is the 45HP and speed. i understand that some people do not want that, thats a given. not shitty gas mileage more like 12-15. There are people who like added performance.

you are a special person,

if that chip makes 45 extra HP, I'll make your car payments for you.

a 330 with 300 HP with just software

BULLSHIT

MCS · 08-15-2005, 11:29 AM

I'd be alittle suspicious of any new computer mod, esp with the voided warantee.

Order a Mustang if you want 300HP. Friend just got one and it is crazy in a straight line... Heard that those engines are very easy to modify.

NaTuReB0Y · 08-15-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MCS

I'd be alittle suspicious of any new computer mod, esp with the voided warantee.

Order a Mustang if you want 300HP. Friend just got one and it is crazy in a straight line... Heard that those engines are very easy to modify.

FORD=Fix or repair daily..........not worth a dime!

Socom · 08-15-2005, 12:18 PM

Found On Road Dead (FORD).

Imperial · 08-15-2005, 01:47 PM

45 extra hp with just an ECU mod on an N/A engine? Forgive our collective skepticism. Like everyone else's said, I like my 255 hp juuuuust fine. I like my BMW service even more, too.

Does anyone else smell that? It smells like...

obLu · 08-15-2005, 02:45 PM

Actually, it's probably not that hard to tune the engine to get close to 300hp peak on a dyno. Adjust the valve timing for peak horsepower at high rpm, raise the rev limiter for a few hundred more rpm. Peak hp on a dyno doesn't equal a street driveable car though.

A piggyback ecu would actually the be the easiest way to hack this together too.

I'd still call BS though, I would guess that most of the extra peak hp coming from the new motor is in the increased rev limit. Manufacturer's don't usually use redline's as marketing tools, and revs = power.

Ed_330i · 08-15-2005, 04:05 PM

well i called BS orginally too, but thats what he told me. he said that the engine management systems restrict the motor alot.

JVFan · 08-15-2005, 04:20 PM

Remember HE'S TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING.....

08-14-2005, 10:52 AM	#1
Ed_330i Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North America Posts: 521 iTrader: (0)	Found out about a mod for the e90 Im in Florida and there is a auto tuner near me. I called them, they are called Ride btw. and they said they have a piggyback type ECU for the e90 already. Supposed to plug it in and it gives like 45HP to bring it to 300HP even. thing is it drinks gas cause all the special management systems are disabled and such. it becomes like driving a old muscle car. No computers no bullshit. just motor and wheels. he also said i could always just press a button and reflash it to the orginel settings. ill find out more later, but sounds good

08-14-2005, 01:45 PM	#6
Pangearox Second Lieutenant Drives: E93 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 235 iTrader: (0) View Pangearox's Garage	personally...its a waste...cause i would much rather be able to take my car to Bmw for its bumper to bumper service than have 45 extra hp... not worth it..to many downsides for the one plus __________________ E93 335i Space Grey/Coral Red w poplar Grey/Sport/Nav/Usb audio/Comfort Access

08-14-2005, 02:18 PM	#7
Arby 330 First Lieutenant Drives: jet black 330 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Myers, FLorida Posts: 310 iTrader: (0)	i plan on doing a bunch of mods to my engine..... once my waranty is up. also the benifit of waiting 4 years is that there will be tryed and true methods for performance that we know work and dont cause nearly as much damage yo your engine as a brand new upgrade would. __________________ 330i- Jet Black/black leather/aluminum trim/sports/premium/nav-IDrive ....every single option available (steptronic ) 5% suntek- all the way around (15% strip on front winshield)

08-14-2005, 02:37 PM	#8
NaTuReB0Y Powered By 36DD Drives: 2006 E90 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Jungle Posts: 6,509 iTrader: (9)	I'm happy with the 255hp........another 45hp probably won't make much of a difference.......and it's still less than the LEXUS IS350.... __________________ 2006 330i E90: Jet Black Automatic Schestamatic Steptronic Six Speed Transmission

08-14-2005, 06:34 PM	#9
Oz Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ Posts: 1,769 iTrader: (0) View Oz's Garage	I don't think any driver (unless you're intro racing) needs a mod like that but it is very interesting. I am looking into mods that can use navigation as a dvd player or do more with it. I am sure most of the people does not the get 325/330 based on its horsepowers. We get it because of its BMW, nothing else __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter

08-14-2005, 12:12 PM	#2
mapezzul Special Agent Drives: Depends on the day! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,178 iTrader: (1)	find that hard to believe, considering the valvetronic system and the fact that it would need more air to breath etc.... that would be a 45 hp difference and there is no turbo to change the boost etc. they are full of it unless BMW is rating the motor way too low. I doubt it would be that much of an increase and I would be skeptical of the actual programming if not tested and proven by a known and trusted manufacturer. Just my .02.

08-14-2005, 01:30 PM	#3
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: E90 & E91 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 11,205 iTrader: (0) View LEDZEP's Garage	What a great idea! Pay $40k for a car because of all the brilliant German engineering in the engine and then disable it all, with the added benefit of shitty gas mileage! Oh and wait - I'm sure you void your warranty at the same time!! Gosh, where do we sign up?

08-14-2005, 01:33 PM	#4
Ed_330i Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North America Posts: 521 iTrader: (0)	you are a opinionated snob. the benefit is the 45HP and speed. i understand that some people do not want that, thats a given. not shitty gas mileage more like 12-15. There are people who like added performance.

08-14-2005, 07:22 PM	#10
JVFan Lieutenant Drives: Very Well Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lloydminster, AB CANADA Posts: 452 iTrader: (0)	I don't buy it...literally or figuratively...45 horse out of that engine....three months from being released? Sounds like a teenagers essay writing contest.

08-15-2005, 06:48 AM	#14
davinet78 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: bmw e90 320d Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: gibraltar(europe) Posts: 1,839 iTrader: (0) View davinet78's Garage	sounds like a worthless modification to me which is just not feasible. __________________ e90 320d,arktis,lumber support, hifi speaker, alarm, dakota beige, 162 18", xenon with washer spray,window chrome trimmings, professional radio, 6 cd changer wood trimmings 6 speed manual.

08-15-2005, 11:29 AM	#16
MCS e90 newbie Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 429 iTrader: (2) View MCS's Garage	I'd be alittle suspicious of any new computer mod, esp with the voided warantee. Order a Mustang if you want 300HP. Friend just got one and it is crazy in a straight line... Heard that those engines are very easy to modify.

08-15-2005, 12:18 PM	#18
Socom Brigadier General Drives: 2010 335D Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,300 iTrader: (0)	Found On Road Dead (FORD).

08-15-2005, 01:47 PM	#19
Imperial First Lieutenant Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Del Mar, CA Posts: 303 iTrader: (0)	45 extra hp with just an ECU mod on an N/A engine? Forgive our collective skepticism. Like everyone else's said, I like my 255 hp juuuuust fine. I like my BMW service even more, too. Does anyone else smell that? It smells like... __________________ 2006 330i 6MT - Black Sapphire Metallic - Terra Leather - ZSP - ZPP - iDrive - Sirius

08-15-2005, 02:45 PM	#20
obLu Major Drives: 330i 6MT ZSP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kirkland, WA, USA Posts: 1,161 iTrader: (1)	Actually, it's probably not that hard to tune the engine to get close to 300hp peak on a dyno. Adjust the valve timing for peak horsepower at high rpm, raise the rev limiter for a few hundred more rpm. Peak hp on a dyno doesn't equal a street driveable car though. A piggyback ecu would actually the be the easiest way to hack this together too. I'd still call BS though, I would guess that most of the extra peak hp coming from the new motor is in the increased rev limit. Manufacturer's don't usually use redline's as marketing tools, and revs = power.

08-15-2005, 04:05 PM	#21
Ed_330i Captain Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North America Posts: 521 iTrader: (0)	well i called BS orginally too, but thats what he told me. he said that the engine management systems restrict the motor alot.

08-15-2005, 04:20 PM	#22
JVFan Lieutenant Drives: Very Well Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lloydminster, AB CANADA Posts: 452 iTrader: (0)	Remember HE'S TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING.....