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      12-08-2009, 10:24 AM   #1
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My Audi friends are getting a kick out of this pic



BMW on left...Audi on right.
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      12-08-2009, 10:42 AM   #2
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      12-08-2009, 12:32 PM   #3
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Haha. That's pretty funny. Looks like the Audi is sporting much better/wider tires as well. Probably assists in traction, even though I'd assume the BMW is RWD.
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Haha. That's pretty funny. Looks like the Audi is sporting much better/wider tires as well. Probably assists in traction, even though I'd assume the BMW is RWD.
dont think that applies to snow tires...
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Most of the guys that I know that own Audi quattros do NOT have snow tires. They just run the M+S that came with the car. Some exceptions would be several of my friends in Colorado..and the New England areas.
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My own driveway is roughly the same gradiant but another 30 meters longer so I understand this picture BIG TIME. Both the wife's GTI and my M3 sat at the bottom of the drive for the best part of a week, every morning we both walked to the end of the drive and drove away, myself to my work and the wife to school with the kids and in the evening we parked up at the bottom and walked up to the house.

There are few times when AWD is a real benefit and those occasions were the ones.
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My own driveway is roughly the same gradiant but another 30 meters longer so I understand this picture BIG TIME. Both the wife's GTI and my M3 sat at the bottom of the drive for the best part of a week, every morning we both walked to the end of the drive and drove away, myself to my work and the wife to school with the kids and in the evening we parked up at the bottom and walked up to the house.

There are few times when AWD is a real benefit and those occasions were the ones.
no winter tires? if my mom can get up her driveway in the past 5 years with her 530i(w/ snow tires of course) ..I swear anyone with snow tires should not have a problem...
on a side note..30M on top of that driveways length is pretty awesome..and long...
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All that says to me is that the BMW was more entertaining and invigorating to drive lol...

Just kidding... Audi's server their purpose well! To each their own.
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dont think that applies to snow tires...
+1 .. thinner tires are better in the snow.. For all we know, the Audi could have gotten a 30mph running start at the end of the street
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BMW on left...Audi on right.
Winter tires, summer tires, thin tires, and wide tires considered.

Just looking at the picture alone its clear the Audi's tires dig in deeper. Since you can see pavement beneath the Audi's treads and not really anywhere in the BMW's. That tells me the BMW is running more performance/summer oriented tires and the Audi is sporting something more all season.

Unless Audi's Quattro has somehow managed to make their tires dig in deeper. Maybe just a heavier car?

(e46 is 3,250 lbs, B7 A4 is 3600-3700 lbs)

Then again, I'm no expert.
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That's funny.
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.30M on top of that driveways length is pretty awesome..and long...
Feel bad now. Just checked and it's only 28m in total, not the 30m on top I suggested before, but then again when you a sliding it always appears longer.

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I also fib a little about the length of other things........just ask the wife.
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I think you should show your Audi friends this picture to keep them honest.


understeer - 4th picture that came up on google image search.
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Winter tires, summer tires, thin tires, and wide tires considered.

Just looking at the picture alone its clear the Audi's tires dig in deeper. Since you can see pavement beneath the Audi's treads and not really anywhere in the BMW's. That tells me the BMW is running more performance/summer oriented tires and the Audi is sporting something more all season.

Unless Audi's Quattro has somehow managed to make their tires dig in deeper. Maybe just a heavier car?

(e46 is 3,250 lbs, B7 A4 is 3600-3700 lbs)

Then again, I'm no expert.
The wider the tyre the worse it will perform in slippy conditions, and if the Audi is that much more heavy then the wider tyres will counter the extra weight by helping spread to load.

I would agree that the rubber on the Audi may well be better suited but there is no doubt it's benefit with quattro to climb that gradiant is probably the most telling thing.

Only the OP will know this answer but another reason for the difference is tread marks is that between the time the BMW parked and the Audi it should have briefly snowed again. Just a thought.
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I think you should show your Audi friends this picture to keep them honest.


understeer - 4th picture that came up on google image search.
Best not do google searches because it could also give them ideas to counter your dig about understeer. This picture I found took all of 30 seconds to find.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnV...op_M3CSL_0.jpg

Better to just say, 'Great, now I know who to call when I get stuck and need a tow' and then throw in the dig that for the favour you will take them on a proper trackday in a proper trackday car for a change.
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haha, reminds me of when it would snow and I'd watch my neighbors struggle to get up the hill in my neighborhood while I cruised by with ease in my STi.
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Unless this is just after a freak snow fall, you have to hope the owner of the BMW learned how important snow tires are.
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