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      03-15-2012, 02:14 PM   #1101
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I believe I am having issues with my HPFP also or it may be because of bad gas that I got from "shell". I filled up my tank, next day I was driving and went to give the car some gas and it shook REAL bad, smell of gas and a bit of rotten eggs like a bad cat converter. So I took it real easy and got it home (SES came on). When in park the car would idle REAL rough, tail pipes had carbon on them, misfiring from cylinders 2,5 and a o2 sensor code was thrown (checked codes via JB4). I made a appointment for my car to get seen, next day I started up the car and it ran smooth as butter, then 30 mins later same problem with shaking....next day the SES light went off and the car ran perfectly fine but it takes longer to start, a bit of decreased power (Lag) in the lower end and it is running a bit rich (black coated tail pipes). Is this a ossible HPFP?

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      03-18-2012, 04:21 PM   #1102
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Just had my first problem with, what I assumed, the HPFP.
I was driving down the freeway and as I tried to accelerate, the car felt like it was lacking power. A few minutes later, my "Service" light came on. The car then started stutter so I got off the first exit and parked it on the green exit median. As I was exiting, there was a smoke coming out of the tailpipes. The car was idling at about 500 rpm.
It has now been towed and will be at the service center tomorrow morning.

My car is a 2009 335i convertible with just a tad over 10,000 miles.
My HPFP was replace during the recent recall. I had no problems with it before.

Is this typical of a HPFP problem?
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      03-18-2012, 10:14 PM   #1103
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I believe I am having issues with my HPFP also or it may be because of bad gas that I got from "shell". I filled up my tank, next day I was driving and went to give the car some gas and it shook REAL bad, smell of gas and a bit of rotten eggs like a bad cat converter. So I took it real easy and got it home (SES came on). When in park the car would idle REAL rough, tail pipes had carbon on them, misfiring from cylinders 2,5 and a o2 sensor code was thrown (checked codes via JB4). I made a appointment for my car to get seen, next day I started up the car and it ran smooth as butter, then 30 mins later same problem with shaking....next day the SES light went off and the car ran perfectly fine but it takes longer to start, a bit of decreased power (Lag) in the lower end and it is running a bit rich (black coated tail pipes). Is this a ossible HPFP?

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Well come to find Out my problem was a huge vacuume leak, my charge pipe was not seated all the way on the throttle body.... I am still having a diagnostic done on Tuesday and will report back.
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      03-19-2012, 10:53 AM   #1104
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I believe I have experienced my first issue with my HPFP. The other day I was on the highway and when I accelerated to change lanes I noticed my car wasn't accelerating as it normally would and the 1/2 engine light came on. After I stopped and restarted the car the light went away but I still noticed the decrease in performance. The light came on again yesterday so I started researching the issue and came across this thread. I have a appt with my dealer on Wednesday, do you all know if my car is covered under the extended warranty for the HPFP?

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I have 84k miles on my car.
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      03-19-2012, 11:09 AM   #1105
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I have a appt with my dealer on Wednesday, do you all know if my car is covered under the extended warranty for the HPFP?

2007 335xi with sports package

I have 84k miles on my car.
Yep, up to 120,000 miles
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      03-19-2012, 11:13 AM   #1106
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Yep, up to 120,000 miles
Cool thanks! I will let you know how it goes.
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      03-19-2012, 02:09 PM   #1107
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Cool thanks! I will let you know how it goes.
I am still having long starts so I am having mine checked out tomorrow!
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got mine changed for the second time at 41000km , Exchange high-pressure pump -13517616170 and its the same pump used for the 1M coupe.

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      03-21-2012, 09:38 AM   #1109
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Mine 2nd time 2007 E90

FP# 13-51-7-616-446
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      03-21-2012, 03:38 PM   #1110
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So this is still an issue? I was under the impression this was corrected?
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      03-21-2012, 05:17 PM   #1111
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So this is still an issue? I was under the impression this was corrected?
I am guessing it is...HPFP for sure, there was 3 people at my dealership getting HPFP.
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      03-21-2012, 09:34 PM   #1112
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I am guessing it is...HPFP for sure, there was 3 people at my dealership getting HPFP.
Did you have the recall done prior to this one failing? In other words was it the latest part number (13-51-7-616-446) that failed?
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      03-22-2012, 07:19 AM   #1113
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Did you have the recall done prior to this one failing? In other words was it the latest part number (13-51-7-616-446) that failed?
That I do not know, I have only had the car 3 months...I do know it was replaced a year ago.
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      04-11-2012, 01:49 AM   #1114
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My car first got the half engine light at 50mph then at 75 and now I tested it to 100....what's going on? I'm assuming it's the turbos but hoping otherwise. I'm 18 and this is my first car, I'd hate it if this were the case....1,700 for both turbos is very pricey...any suggestions would really appreciate it
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My car first got the half engine light at 50mph then at 75 and now I tested it to 100....what's going on? I'm assuming it's the turbos but hoping otherwise. I'm 18 and this is my first car, I'd hate it if this were the case....1,700 for both turbos is very pricey...any suggestions would really appreciate it
are you getting any codes?? Hard starts? Sounds like your car is in limp mode...if it was a turbo you would have a lot of blue smoke! It could also be a boost leak also. Is your car stock? What's mods do you have?
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My HPFP failed last night.
Loss of power, actually car shut down at 60MPH.
No power steering, had to muscle the car. For most small women that could be a very dangerous situation. I'm at least glad the tranny software, allows the tranny to coast at loss of engine power.

Threw codes P142E and P3090.
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wth this issue is still not resolved.. i'm considering getting the e90 but this problem is very annoying.
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Class actrion settlement was approved as is. Objections were found to be without merit and not enough people wrote in to object to make it seem like they were true.

The Fairness Hearing was held on March 16, 2012. The Court was advised of twelve class
members who objected to the Settlement. Three of those class members withdrew their objections
before the final hearing, and two others withdrew them after the final hearing. The Court has given fair
consideration of all remaining objections. Each of the objections is overruled for the following reasons:
1. With respect to objectors’ concerns regarding whether the settlement actually addresses
the problems complained of in this action – the defective high pressure fuel pumps
(HPFPs) – the Court relies on plaintiffs’ assertion that their experts found that the
redesign of the new-generation HPFPs being installed under the Recall fixes the specific
problem complained about. BMW’s own evidence also demonstrates that for
new-generation HPFPs, the failure rate is below 1.7%. The objectors point to no
evidence that would suggest that the new-generation HPFPs are failing at a rate that is
unexpected or otherwise indicates ongoing defects. Finally, the 10 year/120,000 mile
extended warranty being provided by BMW, provides additional protections to class
Case3:10-cv-02257-SI Document118 Filed04/20/12 Page2 of 5
United States District Court
For the Northern District of California
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members in the event that the new-generation HPFPs are defective – and there is no
evidence they are.
2. With respect to the turbocharger and wastegate defects alleged, the Court finds that the
extended additional 1 year/12,000 mile warranty provides fair relief for this allegation.
Objectors provide no evidence that the turbocharger and wastegate defects claimed in
this lawsuit will manifest after the 8 year/82,000 mile extended warranty provided under
the settlement.
3. With respect to objectors’ complaints that the settlement releases significant lemon law
claims, those objections are without merit. It is doubtful that any lemon law recovery
could have been included or secured through this class action, as lemon law claims tend
to involve inherently individual issues. Moreover, any class member who has a lemon
law claim based on past failures could have opted out. Finally, if there are failures of the
new-generation HPFPs, those will likely be addressed by BMW’s extended warranty.
4. With respect to objectors’ complaints that the settlement does not account for lost value
of the vehicles, the Court finds the objections lack merit. Plaintiffs provide evidence that
after new-generation HPFPs are installed under the Recall, there is no appreciable lost
value to the Class Members’ vehicles. Objectors have submitted no evidence to the
contrary.
5. With respect to objectors’ complaints about the notice, the Court finds them without
merit. The notice provided sufficient information for class members to be able to make
an informed decision as to whether to opt-out or stay in the class and, as a result, release
claims related to the operation of their HPFPs and turbocharger wastegates. Also, any
discrepancies between the dates for class members to submit claims, objections or
requests to opt-out included in the Notice and the claims forms were not material and the
Claim Administrator has confirmed that requests for exclusion and objections that were
postmarked on February 6, 2012 were considered timely.
6. Finally, the Court rejects the contention that the settlement provision allowing BMW to
audit the claims of class members is subject to abuse. There is no reason to suspect that
the audit process will be abused by BMW. However if such abuse occurs, Class Counsel
will be responsible for bringing those issues promptly to the Court’s attention.
Having reviewed all of the submissions presented with respect to the proposed Settlement, as
well as the arguments of counsel for the class, counsel for BMW NA and counsel for the objectors who
appeared at the Final Hearing, the Court grants final approval to the Settlement, finding it fair, adequate
and reasonable. The Court finds that plaintiffs faced significant risks in litigating this case as a
nationwide class action; but that the settlement provides a fair amount of relief for class members’
federal and state law breach of warranty claims as well as the state law consumer protection claims
given the strength of those claims. The Court also relies on the fact that the settlement was reached only
after significant arms’ length negotiations in multiple sessions with a nationally recognized mediator.
The extent of discovery - in particular, Class Counsels’ expert’s opinions as to the redesigned HPFPs
Case3:10-cv-02257-SI Document118 Filed04/20/12 Page3 of 5
United States District Court
For the Northern District of California

and BMW’s evidence regarding failure rates for replaced HPFPs – supports a finding that the settlement
is fair and adequate; as does the small percentage of opt-outs (0.1 %) and objectors (0.0023 %)

Pursuant to Rule 23, the Settlement Class as finally certified shall consist of:
All Persons in the United States who are now or have been at any time owners of record or
lessees of any of the following types of vehicles: BMW Model Years 2007-2010 335i models;
Model Years 2008-2010 135i, 535i and X6 xDrive35i Sports Activity Coupes; Model Years
2009 - 2010 Z4 Roadster sDrive35i vehicles.
Excluded from the Settlement Class are: Persons who validly and timely exclude themselves
from the Settlement Class; Persons who have settled with and released Defendant from
individual claims substantially similar to those alleged in this matter; BMW NA, its subsidiaries
and affiliates, officers, directors and employees; Persons who have suffered personal injury as
a result of the defects alleged; Insurers or other providers of extended service contracts or
warranties for the Settlement Class Vehicles; all Persons or entities claiming to be subrogated
to the rights of Settlement Class; consumers and/or business that have purchased Class Vehicles
for use as rentals (i.e. fleet vehicles); consumers and/or businesses that have purchased Class
Vehicles deemed a total loss (i.e. salvage); United States residents that have purchased Class
Vehicles in the United States but have since transported the Class Vehicle outside the United
States; and The Honorable Judge Susan Illston.
3. Plaintiffs, members of the Settlement Class, and BMW NA shall consummate the
Settlement according to the terms of the Settlement Agreement.
4. The Action is dismissed with prejudice, each party to bear its respective costs (except
as provided in the Settlement Agreement), and each Settlement Class Member not opting out of this
Settlement shall be deemed to have granted Released Persons as defined in section 1.27 of the
Settlement Agreement a release of claims in accordance with sections 1.26 and 4.8 of the Settlement
Agreement.
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So the turbo/wastegate are warranted to 5 years/62k miles?
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I mean, it's been 3-4 years and they are still have the same problems!!
Agree 100%, Also on the V8 engines and cooling system valleys and leaks...Stuff its getting little out of hand. They need to get back to basics and build decent car. E46 was great...N52 E90 was great but ever since they stepped into the turbo market and V6/V8's stuff has gone to hell. I cant see myself buying any of them till they figure out wtf they are doing.
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When did they step into the v6 market? What has gone to hell?



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Agree 100%, Also on the V8 engines and cooling system valleys and leaks...Stuff its getting little out of hand. They need to get back to basics and build decent car. E46 was great...N52 E90 was great but ever since they stepped into the turbo market and V6/V8's stuff has gone to hell. I cant see myself buying any of them till they figure out wtf they are doing.
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N54 is inline 6 no V there.
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