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      08-10-2010, 08:19 PM   #221
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Reading comprehension isn't your core strength. Since you seem to know the answer, how 'bout telling us all what the 2011 LCI headlamp housing does that LED-based retrofits can't accomplish.
I'm only guessing on this. LED retrofits like OSS use rings that where used in the older E46s, rather then a LED projecting a light into a optic, there is LEDs lined up in the shape of a Angel Eye Ring so it is always pointing forward rather then lighting up tubes as in the previous e92 headlight.

Just how people attempted to copy the Audi LED light strips onto other cars, no one could match the quality of a major car company like Audi, so I am guessing BMW Angel Eyes LCI are the same idea as the LED rings but with much better quality.

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Yeah I have no idea how they're arranged but the 2011 housing appears to have a clean, uniform ring of light, much like you would achieve from a CCFL tube, only this appears to be an LED fixture. I'd like to see the guts of one, but can only guess the optics are changed and it utilizes high-draw LEDs affixed to the light tube in each fixture.

Retrofits like the Weisslicht or LUX position the LEDs close to each light tube but it's not a direct fitment and the LEDs might not match the level of intensity the OEM has figured out.

I'm just curious to see how it's done.
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Reading comprehension isn't your core strength. Since you seem to know the answer, how 'bout telling us all how the LEDs in the 2011 LCI headlamp are arranged, since the current pre-LCI LED retrofits can't match the intensity of the 2011.
How about you stop trashing in my thread? Start your own if you really want to discuss this. Post one more inflammatory thing and I'll report you instead.
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@ fleeing to a moderator! This isn't just your thread-- it belongs to the community. The point of this is to share information for everyone and encourage discussion, not to run people off because they weren't on your invitation list. Now let's get back on topic.
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no one makes yellow angel eyes (to the temperature of the original E92s) for the E90s do they? everyone wants bright white :/
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      08-11-2010, 03:14 AM   #226
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no one makes yellow angel eyes (to the temperature of the original E92s) for the E90s do they? everyone wants bright white :/
there are the Alpine and Camaross HID angel eye kits which will let you run up to a 20k color rating
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isn't 20k blue?
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      08-11-2010, 11:51 AM   #228
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isn't 20k blue?
20,000k is a very very cool blue. it depends where you draw the line of what is white and what is blue. If anything its closer to blue then white
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yeah, what color would the E92 AEs be? that's the color i'm looking for, i'm guessing somewhere under 5000K?
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yeah, what color would the E92 AEs be? that's the color i'm looking for, i'm guessing somewhere under 5000K?
More inclined to think 6000K...@ 5000K, you're shifting into yellow territory.
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More inclined to think 6000K...@ 5000K, you're shifting into yellow territory.
I'm guessing that too, but honestly I have not seen a color like it that could match, it kind of has a violet purplish hue to it.
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So what is the consensus here for the AE's that best illuminate the rings on a E92? Is it the LUX H8?
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^ bingo. if you do not want to send them to OSS, that is. Lux has the most uniformly lit rings, HID AE's is too blinding.
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^ bingo. if you do not want to send them to OSS, that is. Lux has the most uniformly lit rings, HID AE's is too blinding.

I'll ask this again, have you seen them in person? HID Angel Eyes only look blinding in pictures, they do not blind when your looking at them because it's not projecting light out.
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Great thread.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned as I didn't want to read through a million posts, but I believe the pre LCI E92 angel eyes were merely poorly designed (the actual housing). I don't think it matters how bright of a bulb/led/hid/whatever you put in there. It will still look uneven.
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which angel eyes would fit a 2010 e90 328?
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Not sure if this has been mentioned as I didn't want to read through a million posts, but I believe the pre LCI E92 angel eyes were merely poorly designed (the actual housing). I don't think it matters how bright of a bulb/led/hid/whatever you put in there. It will still look uneven.
That is very true, and the brighter it gets the more easy it is to see this problem...
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which angel eyes would fit a 2010 e90 328?
If you have factory xenon housing, then our HID Angel Eyes will work.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned as I didn't want to read through a million posts, but I believe the pre LCI E92 angel eyes were merely poorly designed (the actual housing). I don't think it matters how bright of a bulb/led/hid/whatever you put in there. It will still look uneven.
They were designed to be illuminated with just one 35W halogen bulb-- the inner ring receives more light through the surround of the housing while the outer ring relies on the light pipe to guide light from the inner fixture.

The precise-aimed LED units do a better job of focusing output on the light pipes, but the drop-in bulbs and HID kits will always look uneven, due to the design of the housing.

I looked at a LCI headlamp up close today and noticed the light source is square in the center of the headlight housing, from a LED fixture below the halo rings. Both rings use the same exact type of light pipe that our pre-LCI cars have, but the light pipes guide the LED illumination into the middle of the ring, in a Y-shaped fashion. This design helps to make the intensity of both rings equal.
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If you have factory xenon housing, then our HID Angel Eyes will work.
mine is halogen headlights is there a different one that will work for it?
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mine is halogen headlights is there a different one that will work for it?
Hey Danny,

As of now, this is your only option...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=414297

Hope that helps
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