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Hello e90post,

- Are you sick & tired of the "One Wheel Wonder" syndrome?

Just imagine it; You're sitting at the line, waiting for the Green to light up on the tree, you disengage the clutch then bam, big cloud of tire smoke but you're not going anywhere! You're not the first, and most certainly not the last, to experience the One Wheel Wonder syndrome

Or how about when you're going through that tight apex, approaching the exit point, but no matter how hard you accelerate, the competitor who was right up against your rear going into the turn is now leaving you for dust as you exit? He obviously has an Limited Slip Differential (it's never the driver )

- If the answer is YES, MFactory Competition Products is the answer to your prayers!

Introducing the MFactory range of Forged Limited Slip Differentials. By precisely controlling the transfer of torque between the left/right wheels, you will gain maximum traction, allowing you to eliminate the "One Wheel Wonder" syndrome during drag racing and power through those tight corners on the circuit with maximum exit speed.

Helical LSD - Model shown is for Honda. I will upload the BMW image asap


Description: Also known as a "Torque-Biasing Differential", the 2nd Generation MFactory Helical LSD is lighter, stronger and more efficient than any other Helical LSD on the market today! Through the use of maintenance-free Gears, this eliminates the need for special fluids & rebuilds associated with plate-type LSDs. Lock-free operation also ensures no adverse affect to steering response
Suitable for: Street Cars, Drag Cars, Occasional Road/Race
Power Rating: 1000whp+ (As proven in the world's fastest Hondas)
Warranty: Lifetime Transferable Warranty (even if raced!)
Why MFactory?: Our Helical LSD's have been proven to be Stronger, Lighter and have better tolerances than our competition

Feel the Torque™ Guarantee: An industry first! We stand by the quality of our products so much and, fully believe that you, our valued customer, will be fully satisfied with your Helical LSD that if, for whatever reason, you are not happy with your purchase, you may return the product to us for a full refund (excluding shipping costs) within 30 days of the purchase date!

Fitments:
Helical LSD E9X 320d (MT) for Final Ratio <= 3.07
Helical LSD E9X 325i/328i/330i (MT)/335i 07+ (AT) for Final Ratio >= 3.15
Helical LSD E9X 335i 05-07 (MT/AT)
Helical LSD E9X 335i (MT)

Price:
All fitments (exc 335i MT Mar 07+) $999.95 inc FREE Shipping within North America & Europe
335i MT Mar 07+ $1779.95 inc FREE Shipping within North America & Europe. Includes $500 core exchange fee, refundable after you return your original Diff + Ring & Pinion

Metal Plate LSD - Model shown is for Honda. I will upload the BMW image asap


Description: Also known as a "Clutch Type" or "Salisbury Type" differential, the MFactory Metal Plate LSD puts the power-to-the-ground and maximises your vehicle's traction where conventional Torsen LSD's fail. Unlike a Torsen style LSD, when one wheel loses traction completely (e.g wheel lifts off the ground or axle failure), the 2nd wheel will still have drive and you will not be stranded in the heat of the moment. The Metal Plate LSD is by far the best performing Limited Slip Differential available for a dedicated circuit or rally car
Suitable for: Road/Race Cars
Power Rating: ~500whp
Warranty: Lifetime Transferable Warranty (exc. Plates & Springs)
Why MFactory?: Unlike our competitors who utilize the out-of-date external "Cone-Washer" pre-load system, the MFactory Metal Plate LSD's utilize 21st Century technology with it's internal "Coil-Spring" pre-load system, which provides gradual plate engagement (not the on-off switch like our competitors) and ensures minimal powerloss and maximum response. Our Metal Plate LSD's have been proven in the fastest Road/Race Hondas in the US & Asia-Pacific

Fitments:
Metal Plate LSD E9X 320d (MT) for Final Ratio <= 3.07
Metal Plate LSD E9X 325i/328i/330i (MT)/335i 07+ (AT) for Final Ratio >= 3.15

Price: All fitments $999.95 inc FREE Shipping within North America & Europe
Package Deal: Add a set of Replacement Plates for only $119.96 at time of purchase. That's a 20% Saving!

Rebuild Service: Ship your pumpkin to us, or we can use a pumpkin that we have in stock, and we'll handle the rest!
- Prior to assembly, all parts are cleaned, inspected, and polished in a deburring machine with ceramic media
- Preload, gear clearance and torque will all be inspected and adjusted for superior performance
- Housings are media blasted to give a 'better than new' look
- Simply add $500 onto the cost of the LSD for this rebuild service
- If you wish us to ship you a pre-built pumpkin first, there is an additional $500 core charge. This is refundable after we receive your old pumpkin back

Some images of a recent rebuild:

Before:


Cleaned in our Ceramic Tumbler:


LSD Installed:


Finished Pumpkin:


Already have an LSD in your transmission? Or even one that failed on you and is now just an expensive paper-weight?:

Depending on the type/brand, you may be eligible for the MFactory Refugee Program, a unique service which allows you to trade-in your old/damaged product for a brand-new MFactory equivalent at significant discount. Now you no longer need to have those expensive paper-weights taking up precious storage space! For more details, please CLICK HERE

For further information, please CLICK HERE to Contact Us, or send us a PM

About MFactory
Established in 2004, MFactory Competition Products has since grown to become one of the Leading Global Manufacturers of high performance off-the-shelf aftermarket transmission components, with our large range of Forged Final Drive Gears, LSD's and Close Ratio Gears offering enthusiasts undeniably THE most cost-effective method of performance improvement, far surpassing that of conventional engine tuning.

Being a specialist in this industry requires focused knowledge that can only be gained through years of first-hand testing and tuning experience. Challenging the old adage that 'there is no replacement for displacement', MFactory Competition Products have become a prominent figure in the highest levels of Motorsport, with class-leading recognition the world over in Circuit Racing, Drag Racing and Rally.

Every product within the MFactory catalog is designed in-house in the USA and manufactured in-house to our own specifications at both our US R&D Facility and our multi-million dollar, state-of-the-art, ISO Regulated Taiwan factory, before being tested & developed in the real-world on state-of-the-art race vehicles from North America, Europe and Asia-Pacific. Our products are designed from the beginning to surpass the competition. Why choose MFactory? Here's why:

Official OEM to Honda of America's Motorsports Divisions
World's Largest Manufacturer of Forged Performance Transmission Components for Japanese and European Automobiles
North America's Largest Manufacturer of Limited Slip Differentials for Japanese and European Automobiles
North America's Largest Honda/Acura Performance Transmission Specialist
The World's Only Performance Transmission Manufacturer to offer a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee!
The World's Only Performance Transmission Manufacturer to offer a Discounted Trade-in for a Competitors Product; even if it's damaged!

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Originally Posted by huber
Hi guys, thought I'd post a quick review of the MFactory LSD on my E92 335i. I had this (and a few other goodies) fitted by Advan Performance not long ago.. I can't speak highly enough of Advan Performance and BMR Autowerkes - they've been my one stop shop for mods.

It's been pissing down rain recently in Sydney, so I haven't tested the LSD in anger (nor with DSC/DTC off - will try this some time in future). In the wet, the difference is night and day with the LSD. The traction control lights used to go bezerk even during light throttle, but with the LSD fitted, the car grips and accelerates far better in the wet, and requires much more throttle for traction control to kick in. Definitely much better grip, acceleration and predictability when accelerating in the wet.

In the dry the difference is especially noticeable coming hard out of tight corners. The traction control won't react fast enough to catch the car before it slides out slightly, so beware of this. In a straight line (in the dry) the traction control definitely kicks in less with aggressive driving, but with the power the car puts down, its impossible to avoid wheel spin if you mash the accelerator (JB4/downpipes) - need to learn to gradually apply throttle to the point just before loss of traction. Hard to feel whether acceleration off the line has improved much, but I'd imagine so.

The MFactory LSD is very quiet, except there is some slight delayed backlash(?) noise when I come off the throttle after accelerating hard. I'll get this checked out when I get the car serviced in the next month or so (and diff oil changed out), but even if this noise is normal, I could easily live with it.

Was it worth the money? Probably, for the sake of occasional spirited driving and driving in the wet.. but I'd imagine most of the benefits would be seen on a track.
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Let me first say that I was a little skeptical of putting anything except an OS Giken, ATS/Carbonetic or Quaife in my 135i. I've had experience with all 3 brands, plus Kazz in my past cars and the LSD is a huge part of how the car feels navigating corners on the track and the twisties.

Enter MFactory with their excellent customer service and very fairly priced product:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=943830

While surfing the forums and killing some time while at work, I started to read up on their thread. I can't lie, the price was the first thing that attracted me. For under a grand, I could get a forged helical LSD unit that would suit the needs of what I had planned for my 135i. A low noise, stealthy daily driver that was fun to drive. What really appealed to me was they had built pumpkins with a 3.46 final drive and LSD in stock for under $2000 shipped (if you send back your core). At that price, I bit the bullet and eagerly awaited my new purchase.

During the time, I was installing M3 arms front and back along with the BMW Performance suspension. Already installed is a Cobb V3 and downpipes. Even with those mods, I was having serious traction issues in first and second gear. Before getting any more performance mods, a LSD needed to be addressed.

Once all of it was done, the 135i honestly feels like a completely different car. Two years ago, I had a chance to drive the 1M and my 135i is coming close to what that car felt like. The MFactory LSD and suspension really transformed the vehicle. I've had about 4 full days of driving it with the LSD and I'm very impressed. Obviously, since the diff was already installed, I didn't get to see the quality of the item first hand. But knowing it's a forged unit and now my traction issues has been addressed, I'm a happy camper! I can now put the power down and more importantly, hang the tail out on command. That's something I never had a chance to do as well with my Cayman S or E46 M3 since low end torque was lacking. Not to say you couldn't do it at higher speeds... but that's a little more reckless around the city!

I'm sorry for the long winded review, but for my needs and as my daily street car, this MFactory unit is spectacular. I plan to try to squeeze in an autocross or two before the winter and visit some tracks next year and I'm confident this will help. If you're looking for a quality unit without breaking the bank, I believe MFactory should be high on your list of considerations.
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Got my 3.46 M/T LSD installed and wow, what a difference! I like to take corners fairly sharply and I used to feel traction breaking and the tires scrambling to get traction. Not any longer, however. The car now corners like it is on rails. Full review to follow but if you have rear wheel drive and a JB4, you are not getting all your power down. An LSD is a MUST HAVE for rear wheel drive cars with the kind of horsepower our cars have. The Mfactory LSD is very quiet (I had read some people complaining about noises from their LSDs) and works very well. The car feels absolutely glued to the ground, especially when going around corners. If you check prices, you will find that Mfactory's current pricing is a heck of a deal, particularly for the 3.46 M/T LSD for welded transmissions.
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Finished the install today and went for a drive. Diving normally the car is as quiet as it was before and no vibration at higher speed so I was happy about that. The rear feels more heavy/planted in the back end going over uneven roads which surprised me....less "tail wagging". Well yes there is definetely more traction. I drove the whole time with DTC off and on a couple of the "greasy" roads where it would normally spin all through second did DSC intervene. I need to up my boost limit in second from 12psi and try again on some good roads. I tried a few mild first gear launches and seemed way better but still some controlled spinning. I did notice the small clunk from the diff when sitting still with brakes on and going from reverse to drive. From drive to neutral and back to drive there is no noise.....need to go and make sure the axle bolts are still tight ...cheers.
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Same here. Just a bit of clunk from stand still to the first gear. Other than that this is one of the best mod i d ever done with a great price. No tale waggle on wot and hard first gear turn with a great control under slipping....u simly will grin after grin from the fact that this car has unlimited potential. With my new inline along with this lsd, i am back again. Kw is next.
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So it took me awhile to finally write this review up, but I do have a solid amount of miles on the LSD and lockdown kit at this point which is a good thing.

I ordered the LSD through Steven MFactory. We corresponded mostly through email, and he was always very responsive...even when traveling out of country. I did their core exchange program, and picked up a 3.46 LSD for my 6MT car, as I heard nothing but good things about the final drive change.

After they received my payment, they began reconditioning a large housing bolted pumpkin they had there and prepping it for the LSD. Once the oil seals arrived, it only took them a day to have it prepped and ready. One of the pics attached below so it in its prepped state. Shipping was fast as well, and it was at my door a few days later. It was super clean, and the pumpkin was freshly coated black I had Rick@Defiv fit me in his busy schedule for an install, and decided to get the lockdown kit done at the same time.

Rick and I had the whole diff swap + lockdown install process done in about 4hrs, including pizza and drink breaks. Not bad at all. We took it out on the road for a quick spin to verify everything was solid, then I was on my way. Thanks again Rick!

I've been driving on it for about 800 miles now over the past month or so, and I love how it has transformed the car. The LSD still adds forward thrust to the car even while spinning in 1st and 2nd. Previously, my car would get very unpredictable, and start to kick out the rear in either direction. Now it is planted and firm, just pushing you forward. Traction is greatly improved. It's also great to be able to rotate the car easily with the gas pedal going around turns and you can literally "feel" the LSD working. The 3.46 final drive + my worn tires aren't doing me any favors currently, but I will be switching to some r-comp semi slicks very soon, and going wider.

Running the Cobb Stg 2+ basemap at the strip w/ the LSD and lockdown kit, I was running consistent 12.6 @ 113-114mph all night. I couldn't get lower than a 2.0 60', but that is my tires fault. IAT's per my logs were very high too (105*+), since it was a warm night and. I fully expect to hit 12.1 - 12.2 simply with better tires. Then a PTF pro-tune to get me into the 11's on stock turbo, 6mt, 93oct.

I highly recommend that anyone making power get an LSD. You don't really know what you're missing out on until you experience it. mFactory was great to deal with and their product performs extremely well. Same goes for the defiv lockdown kit. Together, it's a killer combo.
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I know a lot of people have been looking for, candid, feedback on these differentials, so here you go.
I have a 2008 135i with a bolted diff for reference.
The install was actually EXTREMELY easy, backlash on the new diff vs old was actually almost exactly the same. No trimming of the housing was required and the bearing races came right off the old and onto the new with ease.
The pumpkin came without completely pulling the driveshaft, just dropped the axels and loosened the drive-shaft nut, out it came no problem. I also installed the purple powerflex bushings at the same time, this took longer than the entire diff install as my oem ones were pretty stuck in there and you can't use heat on the thin parts of the subframe. After awhile they came out with a small press setup.
With the car back together I took it around the block a few times and can happily report no clunking going from reverse to drive, no whine, and a lot less drivetrain slop with the bushings. Traction wise in a straight line is hard to tell because i need some new rubber soon but the burnout test says that both wheels are turning Cornering now feels like I can use the skinny pedal to turn the car instead of it pushing the front until massive oversteer happens. I only have a few miles on it but I wanted to sing praise for a great, perfectly priced, high quality product. If anyone is going to put something through its paces it will be me I will be going to the track soon and will report back with long term results.
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I would like to start this review by declaring that I have no affiliation with any of the mentioned companies.

I have been researching for an economical solution to add an LSD (Limited Slip Differential) on my car; E46 320CI with s/s. My requirements would be a plug and play solution without case modifications (thus eliminating clutch-based units) at a reasonable price tag. Car being 13 years old, I did not want to spend a large amount of money. The popular options that I found was the Quaife (established brand, widely used) and Wavetrac (newer brand in the BMW E46 field, higher tech, unique features), with similar price tags; (750 GBP and 1200 USD respectively).

Relatively recently, I stumbled across the LSD unit from Mfactory. I went on their website and checked in their wide model based if there is a unit suitable for my application/vehicle (mine is 3.38 final drive ratio, 188K case). I was a bit skeptical at first due to the fact that the LSD is manufactured in Taiwan (vs UK / USA for the other 2), but after reading a lot of reviews from both BMW and JDM world, I decided to proceed purchasing it. The cost was lower than the competition as well which is a big plus and also the lifetime transferable warranty.

We took the car for a (very spirited) test drive and what a difference!!! Specially in the corners, the power delivery is quite different and you can really feel the car pushing hard throughout the corner. There was no ASC intervention throughout the test drive (it was enabled) and there were no issues i.e. odd noises upon acceleration/deceleration.
Overall I am very pleased with this purchase, highly recommended to anyone considering an LSD unit. I commute around 600miles / week, so I will provide in short time a 2000 mile review.

For some reason I take the long way home instead of the short .
The diff is still super quiet, no leaks/noises. There is no increase on the case temperature after LSD install so I will skip the Z4 finned cover for now.
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Finally somebody comes along who's willing to make a ring gear for the welded diff guys! These will be very popular!
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We need a 335d in Cali to get the ball rolling. I'm not driving from Toronto to Cali.

Assuming you guys get a 335d OEM in house, how long would it take you to actually develop the LSD?

I believe the 335d has a gear ratio of 2.81
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We don't need the car to drive over (we don't have the ramps/facilities to install/remove the diff from the car); All we need is an oem diff shipped out to us for a couple weeks to take our measurements, then we can ship back to you.

Current ETA for custom/new fitments is 2-3 Months. Pricing should be same as the current range (provided the diff is similar size)
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All fitments mentioned above are In Stock & Ready To Ship!

335i with Welded Diff
I know a lot of you have the 335i with the Welded Diff, therefore our bolted diffs on sale above will not fit.

Our solution for you guys is simple: We will make a new Ring Gear for you, one which is compatible with your oem Pinion (we can even make new ratios for you guys, if the interest is there?). So instead of spending $600-700 on so-called "install kits" and the lead-time associated with shipping your oem diff back-and-forth just to be able to install an LSD, you will now be able to purchase the correct ring gear for ~$300 (tbd, but it won't be more than this), no hassle. And yes, the ring gear will work with a competitors LSD as well

In order for this to happen though, we need some assistance from you guys. We will need an oem sample 3.07 diff (with welded ring gear + pinion)

335d/335is DCT
Same as above, we will need to make a new ring gear for you guys, therefore, we will need an oem sample 335is 2.56 diff (with welded ring gear + pinion) and 335d 2.81 diff (with welded ring gear + pinion)

Any questions, please feel free to ask!
please elaborate on your belief in selling JUST a new ring gear. it was my understanding that you always do ring & pinion together because they wear together. also i'm of the belief its better to be safe than sorry, so in swapping a ring/pinion/lsd you should do bearings & seals while its torn apart. any plans of offering an "install kit"? general thoughts on these points?
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Generally speaking you should, however, if the pinion is in good condition (which it should be considering the cars here are only a few years old at most), it should be ok to mate it with a new ring gear. You just need to make sure to break-in the new setup (around 500 miles or so) before you do any aggressive driving.

If this is not the case (i.e we find that the pinion gear is very worn, even on a relatively new car, we will make the pinion as well. This will add a little cost, but not much more, probably an extra $100 or thereabouts)

Yes, we are also looking into the bearings & seals. Just looking into all the various part numbers required.
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Our facility just now is set up for our FWD builds (we're an oem Honda installation facility), but what we're in the middle of doing just now is making space for a dedicated rear-end section in our facility, to service and rebuild all the pumpkins (Nissan, Mazda, VAG, BMW).

Once we've sorted out all the oem part numbers, we'll start offering our services.

What's more, if you purchase an LSD from us, if you send us your pumpkin, well rebuild it for you for free!

And it won't just be a straight install. Like we currently do with our Honda transmissions, we'll strip the whole unit apart, chemically clean, blast and ceramic Polish/deburr everything before we rebuild it (checking for any wear items needing replaced).

Your new pumpkin will be as good as a brand new oem unit

We'll probably offer a core exchange service as well, depending on availability of 2nd hand pumpkins, which will reduce downtime for you guys to an absolute minimum

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Could you speak about the application for 2007+ e9x/e82x 328i/128i Manual with the n52 and if available the Auto transmission?
What ratios are available to select? How is the selection done?

The 2005-2006 330i/325i e90 I believe has a different transmission so do you have a part for them? What about the e90 323i on sale in Canada?

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Generally speaking you should, however, if the pinion is in good condition (which it should be considering the cars here are only a few years old at most), it should be ok to mate it with a new ring gear. You just need to make sure to break-in the new setup (around 500 miles or so) before you do any aggressive driving.

If this is not the case (i.e we find that the pinion gear is very worn, even on a relatively new car, we will make the pinion as well. This will add a little cost, but not much more, probably an extra $100 or thereabouts)

Yes, we are also looking into the bearings & seals. Just looking into all the various part numbers required.
typically, what do you feel is the threshold for pinion replacement? 50k miles? 75K? 100K? personally i am approaching 60k & my car is an 09. i'm sure others are closer or above 100k miles.

also when you refer to your services (rebuilding/inspection/shipping/etc) & a dedicated rwd section at your facility are you refering to your UK locatioin or Calif location? personally i have always been leary of dealing w/ internation companies because of horror stories you hear regarding shipping or payment issues, but your professionalism is somewhat reassuring.
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Could you speak about the application for 2007+ e9x/e82x 328i/128i Manual with the n52 and if available the Auto transmission?
What ratios are available to select? How is the selection done?

The 2005-2006 330i/325i e90 I believe has a different transmission so do you have a part for them? What about the e90 323i on sale in Canada?

Thank you
The E9X pumpkins (the rear diff) are the same, but may be different ratio (i.e the final drive that bolts onto the differential).

If you have a ratio <= 3.07, you would use the MT fitment.

If you have a ratio >= 3.15, you would use the AT fitment.

The difference is how the ring gear is mounted onto the differential.

If you have a 335i, then this uses the larger pumpkin and is a different fitment altogether.

We don't currently offer different ratios; it would be the same ratio as your current final drive. However, with our new service and, if we do make some aftermarket ratios, then you will have a choice

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typically, what do you feel is the threshold for pinion replacement? 50k miles? 75K? 100K? personally i am approaching 60k & my car is an 09. i'm sure others are closer or above 100k miles.

also when you refer to your services (rebuilding/inspection/shipping/etc) & a dedicated rwd section at your facility are you refering to your UK locatioin or Calif location? personally i have always been leary of dealing w/ internation companies because of horror stories you hear regarding shipping or payment issues, but your professionalism is somewhat reassuring.
I'll be honest; most of my transmission experience/knowledge stems from my background with Honda transmissions, however, from an engineering point of view, gears are gears.

The gears inside a transmission will be under far more stress and shock loads than a rear differential every will be, yet we've taken apart transmissions with over 50k miles on them and they were as good as new.

On the other hand, we've taken apart heavily raced transmissions (like with our 1200hp drag cars) and those wear down the gears after only 1 or 2 race seasons (30-40 1/4 miles passes per year, at 8secs per pass i.e hardly any "mileage").

It all depends on the usage to be honest. We will probably make the pinion at the same time (more economical for us to do so), and offer it to those who need it. If you are doing the rebuild yourself, you'll need to know how to diagnose gear wear patterns, pitting etc.

Once we start offering our services, if we do the rebuild for you (and why wouldn't you? It's free! ), this is simple.

With regards to our services, this would be at our R&D Facility in San Dimas. It is a walk-in facility, so anyone is free to come in, have a chat, and take a tour of our facilities for reassurance of our "professionalism"

Please let me know if you have any further questions
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Noob question of the day..... Does this help xi's?
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Anyone down for a group buy???

I want a LSD. Bad......
I came from two cars with real LSDs.
I had an e36 M3 and before that a e30 M3.

The 335i badly needs a LSD.
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I would be down for a group buy but it looks like for the welded diffs it will be another 3 months...
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Noob question of the day..... Does this help xi's?
Yes.
Unlike earlier X systems, the new system (your car) has an open diff up front and in the rear.

The transfer case distributes front/rear but the differentials are open relying on the traction control and brake to send the load to the wheel with traction.

In short, not only do you need a LSD in the back, but you need one up front.
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I have 07 6mt 335i with large bolted diff, I am down for group buy
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Yes.
Unlike earlier X systems, the new system (your car) has an open diff up front and in the rear.

The transfer case distributes front/rear but the differentials are open relying on the traction control and brake to send the load to the wheel with traction.

In short, not only do you need a LSD in the back, but you need one up front.
Great..... Stupid xi.
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The diesels be hungry... Now if only i had a spare diff laying around lol
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There is some confusion in the RWD market, where a lot of people think Diff = Final Drive, which isn't the case, so would like to clarify the terminology first.

Pumpkin: This is the whole differential unit, containing the differential and final drive

Differential: This is the part that we make i.e the LSD

Final Drive: This is the Ring Gear & Pinion, and is what makes up the "ratio". We will be making oem ratio final drives for those who have welded differentials. We are also thinking about making different ratio final drives for those who require better performance (whether acceleration or power rating). 4.75 anyone?

When you purchase an LSD from us, this only replaces the oem differential unit; you would still re-use your oem final drive.

For the non 135i/335i bolted diffs, if your current ratio is <= 3.07, you would choose the MT fitment. If your ratio is >= 3.15, you would choose the AT fitment.

All diffs for bolted ring gears are in stock and ready to ship. If you do not wish to wait, you can order directly from our website. If you want to save 20% and wait for the group of 5, please let me know and I'll add you to the lists.

135i/335i Welded Diff Update
We just managed to source an early model bolted large diff, so once it comes in, we can take our measurements and start producing the 3.08 and 3.46 final drives.

ETA is around 2-3 months. Once available, you guys will have the option of purchasing the final drives standalone (to use with another LSD), or as part of an "upgrade" option when purchasing one of our LSD's. Our option will basically allow you to upgrade to an LSD at around 1/2 the cost of what is currently available.

Alternatively, you could source the correct large diff oem final drives (a quick google search brings up a few options) and use that. This way, no need to wait the 2-3 months for our final drives, although you would be paying a few hundred dollars more for a used final drive rather than our new ones.

135i/335is DCT & 335d Models
We are still looking for a donor to loan us their pumpkin or diff & pinion for around 2 weeks. This will allow us sufficient time to take our measurements, and we can then ship back to you to minimise downtime. ETA for the LSD & Final Drives will be 2-3 months. The donor will receive an LSD + Final Drive free of charge when ready.
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Will there be a group buy for welded diff when its ready?
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So how much for a full pumpkin LSD+FD for a 335d for both LSD types, assuming you guys get your hands on an OEM one.
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Will there be a group buy for welded diff when its ready?
Yes, we will offer the same Group Deal

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So how much for a full pumpkin LSD+FD for a 335d for both LSD types, assuming you guys get your hands on an OEM one.
Pricing for the LSD should be the same as the other fitments. For the final drive, we won't know the costs until we've got the oem unit in our hands and taken our measurements. It will be affordable though
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