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      01-07-2010, 05:13 PM   #1
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Question Warranty VOID if I don't use BMW Synthetic Oil

I dropped my car off to get it topped off and I asked my SA about using some Amsoil synthetic for my next oil change and she told me that if I used anything else besides BMW Synthetic oil that my warranty would be completely void. WTF?
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I dropped my car off to get it topped off and I asked my SA about using some Amsoil synthetic for my next oil change and she told me that if I used anything else besides BMW Synthetic oil that my warranty would be completely void. WTF?
She's a MORON .......

Lots of oil usage, brand & type discussion of the forum.

A quick search of the forum:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/search...rchid=10554503
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Wrong several different ways! They can't void a warranty except when they can prove a non-issue part/fluid caused a specific failure, and then ONLY for that failure and any related ones.

Plus, BMW tells you right in your owners manual that you can use any oil that meets the spec shown there -- there are several of them, BMW synthetic being one. But there are others, and some of them are even stated in the manual!

Tell her to RTFM next time!

Check the rating on the Amsoil, it may NOT meet the requirements. If not, common sense says don't use it.
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thanks guys! =)
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^^^^ Thank You! that was very informative! Just to clear things up: so the only Mobil 1 I can use is the 0W-40 and not the 5W-30 according to what you have just listed?
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Give her a break. She's just following company policy by keeping it simple. The best answer you would get would be "Use whatever oil you want as long as it meets BMW spec". I would NOT expect any SA to know whether or not a specific oil meets BMW spec.
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^^^^ Thank You! that was very informative! Just to clear things up: so the only Mobil 1 I can use is the 0W-40 and not the 5W-30 according to what you have just listed?
For your car yes. Stick with LL-01 spec only and you'll be fine.
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Also be aware that Amsoil is NOT LL01 approved. "Reccomended for" is not the same as approved.

If the SA said that using Amsoil would void the warranty, then she was correct.

However you can use any oil that says "BMW LL01" on the bottle. As already mentioned, for practical purposes that means Mobil 1 0W-40 or Castrol Syntec 0W-30. There are some others, but they are hard to find.

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I've had no issues using LubroMoly 5W30, though it's LL04, not LL01. A quiet engine is a nice engine!
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BTW, the SA also told me that the reason why my driver's side headlight beam is lower than my passenger's side is prevent the blinding of oncoming traffic with my beams. Is there any truth to that? If that was the case then why don't they lower the passenger side to match the driver's? =P
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BTW, the SA also told me that the reason why my driver's side headlight beam is lower than my passenger's side is prevent the blinding of oncoming traffic with my beams. Is there any truth to that? If that was the case then why don't they lower the passenger side to match the driver's? =P
Althought this is OT the answer is yes. Why would they lower the passenger side? That would be counterproductive.
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You should ask yourself that question: Why won't you lower the passenger headlight to match the driver side? What objects can dart out of the passenger side (right side) of the road that is more dangerous than oncoming cars? Here's a hint: House pets, blind children, stupid children and stupid adults who cross the street without looking. I actually adjusted my passenger lights to be a little bit higher so I can see better but I keep the beam cut-off below the side mirrors of parked cars so I don't blind anyone when I am on the fast lane.

With a little bit of knowledge and common sense, you can easily answer a lot of the questions yourself without asking everyone.

ouch... =/ thanks for answering regardless...

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with something as important as oil, I don't get why you would start looking at saving some bucks.
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with something as important as oil, I don't get why you would start looking at saving some bucks.
not looking to save bucks. I wanted better performing oil. =P
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Just out of curiosity, do you guys recommend using LL-01 oil in all your cars or just BMWs? I would think it would be great for any turbo European car.
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Just out of curiosity, do you guys recommend using LL-01 oil in all your cars or just BMWs? I would think it would be great for any turbo European car.
Well for starters the 335d (turbo'd car) must use oil with BMW LL-04 spec, so it depends.
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Also be aware that Amsoil is NOT LL01 approved. "Reccomended for" is not the same as approved.

If the SA said that using Amsoil would void the warranty, then she was correct.

However you can use any oil that says "BMW LL01" on the bottle. As already mentioned, for practical purposes that means Mobil 1 0W-40 or Castrol Syntec 0W-30. There are some others, but they are hard to find.
Be careful....I read that the Castrol Syntec 0W-30 sold over the counter at most shops doesn't meet the BMW standards. The BMW Castrol is the "Euro spec" 0-30 full synthetic. I think I read that on one of these boards (not 100% sure).
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That is correct...you want the 0W-30 Castrol (which will be labeled Euro formula or something like that) and not the 5W-30 Castrol to get a LL-01 approved oil. Actual BMW oil is 5W-30, and is indeed Castrol, but it is not anything sold in the parts stores here in the states.
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castrol 5w 30 is what they use.. they just put a BMW sticker on the bottle
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Be careful....I read that the Castrol Syntec 0W-30 sold over the counter at most shops doesn't meet the BMW standards. The BMW Castrol is the "Euro spec" 0-30 full synthetic. I think I read that on one of these boards (not 100% sure).
There is only one 0W-30 Castrol Syntec for sale in the United States, and it is "BMW LONGLIFE-01" approved. Typed that right off the back of the bottle that is in front of me

It is the 5W-30 that is confusing. It does not meet the spec (as sold over the counter in the United Sates), and it is not the same as the "Castrol 5W-30" sold by BMW.

But when in doubt all any of us need to do is read the back of the bottle that we are buying. All the approvals will be listed.
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