E90Post
 


European Auto Source
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > General E90 Sedan / E91 Wagon / E92 Coupe / E93 Cabrio > Official 2011 BMW 335is coupe and convertible (E92/E93) Info/Video/Wallpaper Thread



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-16-2010, 12:06 PM   #551
smckenna@talstar.com
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Posts: 41
iTrader: (0)

I'm really on the fence about whether to order my new 335is with the standard M-Sport rims (18-inch with Ferric Gray), or the bad ass 19-inch Style 225M rims. It's literally driving me nuts! I'm pretty sure I like how the larger 19-inch allow rims look, but I'm afraid that it will be significantly rougher on the ride.
Has anyone ridden on the 225M rims yet, or maybe someone that actually upgraded from 18-inch rims to the 19-inch 225M rims, how did it impact the ride and handling of the car?
smckenna@talstar.com is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 12:20 PM   #552
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com View Post
I'm really on the fence about whether to order my new 335is with the standard M-Sport rims (18-inch with Ferric Gray), or the bad ass 19-inch Style 225M rims. It's literally driving me nuts! I'm pretty sure I like how the larger 19-inch allow rims look, but I'm afraid that it will be significantly rougher on the ride.
Has anyone ridden on the 225M rims yet, or maybe someone that actually upgraded from 18-inch rims to the 19-inch 225M rims, how did it impact the ride and handling of the car?
18's will ride better plus they are a touch lighter. If you don't plan on running 2 sets (like aftermarket 19's or something) you could consider the 19's for the look of bigger wheels but if ride and performance are your 1st priority go with the 18's.
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 01:02 PM   #553
smckenna@talstar.com
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Posts: 41
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UdubBadger View Post
18's will ride better plus they are a touch lighter. If you don't plan on running 2 sets (like aftermarket 19's or something) you could consider the 19's for the look of bigger wheels but if ride and performance are your 1st priority go with the 18's.
You mention the word "performance", suggesting that the performance would be better by sticking with the 18" wheels. Why? Are you referring to handling, cornering performance, or straight line accelleration performance, or what did you mean? If there really is a performance difference, than my decision is over (sticking with the 18's). Thanks in advance.
smckenna@talstar.com is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 01:20 PM   #554
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com View Post
You mention the word "performance", suggesting that the performance would be better by sticking with the 18" wheels. Why? Are you referring to handling, cornering performance, or straight line accelleration performance, or what did you mean? If there really is a performance difference, than my decision is over (sticking with the 18's). Thanks in advance.
lighter weight properties. You can go pretty wide with new tires on 18's if you choose to but OEM 19's tend to be a little heavier (18's are still a bit heavy but not as much as 19's). The best way to eliminate the weight is an aftermarket light weight 18" rim... maybe even 17" but thats really only necessary if you track your car.

If you want to do aftermarket rims, don't bother paying for the OEM 19's cuz you'll be swapping them out anyway. If you want it a bit lighter but still OEM, stick with the 18's. If you don't care really (I mean its not affecting it THAT much) and don't care too much about the ride being a touch bumpy then go for the upgraded OEM 19's. You can always ditch the RFT's for regular tires which will help with the ride quality too.
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 01:48 PM   #555
smckenna@talstar.com
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Posts: 41
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UdubBadger View Post
lighter weight properties. You can go pretty wide with new tires on 18's if you choose to but OEM 19's tend to be a little heavier (18's are still a bit heavy but not as much as 19's). The best way to eliminate the weight is an aftermarket light weight 18" rim... maybe even 17" but thats really only necessary if you track your car.

If you want to do aftermarket rims, don't bother paying for the OEM 19's cuz you'll be swapping them out anyway. If you want it a bit lighter but still OEM, stick with the 18's. If you don't care really (I mean its not affecting it THAT much) and don't care too much about the ride being a touch bumpy then go for the upgraded OEM 19's. You can always ditch the RFT's for regular tires which will help with the ride quality too.
OK, weight's the issue. I'm not a track or racer type person, so saving 5 lbs per tire probably won't mean that much to me. I do care about the comfort issue, though. So the 18's are filled with air (nitrogen), and the 19's are Run-Flats? The would explain the rougher ride, for sure.
smckenna@talstar.com is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 02:13 PM   #556
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com View Post
OK, weight's the issue. I'm not a track or racer type person, so saving 5 lbs per tire probably won't mean that much to me. I do care about the comfort issue, though. So the 18's are filled with air (nitrogen), and the 19's are Run-Flats? The would explain the rougher ride, for sure.
both sizes will be RFT, standard on all BMW's.

you can replace it on both 18's or 19's for a better ride but you'll feel it a bit more on the 19's because of less sidewall on the tire size to absorb the impact of bumps.
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 02:29 PM   #557
smckenna@talstar.com
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Posts: 41
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UdubBadger View Post
both sizes will be RFT, standard on all BMW's.

you can replace it on both 18's or 19's for a better ride but you'll feel it a bit more on the 19's because of less sidewall on the tire size to absorb the impact of bumps.
I think I may go with the 19-inch 225's, and if it seems rough, then when the tires wear out (25K), I can switch them with non-RFT for a smoother ride.
smckenna@talstar.com is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-16-2010, 02:49 PM   #558
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
sounds like a good plan
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-17-2010, 11:54 AM   #559
stressdoc
Moderator
 
stressdoc's Avatar
 
Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MO

Posts: 9,448
iTrader: (0)

If I were getting a 335is I would save the $ and stay with 18" 313s. I would sell the 313s with the rfts and buy a set of light forged wheels w/ non-rft Michelin PS2s. But I am an unsprung weight fanatic.
__________________
My not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829
Quaife, BMW Perf & M3 suspension, V5, M-sport, ...
Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
stressdoc is offline   Dominica
0
Reply With Quote
      02-17-2010, 12:43 PM   #560
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by stressdoc View Post
If I were getting a 335is I would save the $ and stay with 18" 313s. I would sell the 313s with the rfts and buy a set of light forged wheels w/ non-rft Michelin PS2s. But I am an unsprung weight fanatic.
lots of people on here are too... and I'm sure even 18" 313's will carry a nice resale price for the 1st few months they are out.
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-17-2010, 04:17 PM   #561
DinoMite
First Lieutenant
 
DinoMite's Avatar
 
Drives: 2013 - 335is Coupe
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Mississauga

Posts: 379
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Res Ipsa View Post
My dealer told me I could order one in February and I'd have it by April/May.
My dealer said the cars will be ready for June at best.
__________________
335is Silver / Coral Red Leather, Nav + the works.
Retired: 335i Coupe / M-Sports pack / 19" wheels, Alpine White, Coral Red Leather, Alarm, Comfort Access, BMW Individual Sound System
DinoMite is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-17-2010, 11:28 PM   #562
platinumpapi
Sylish Driver
 
Drives: bmw 335i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: alabama

Posts: 89
iTrader: (0)

Smile

Okay, guys i need your attention, as i am a newbie in getting the best deal for my beemer. This time i will not get the car, unless i get a deal.

Well, i currently own a 3 series. And, after alot of research i have made up my mind, and i am going to go with the 335is.

To get to the point, i know, very little about ED (European delivery) all i know is that i can save money. So, below are the options i am considering.

Base Price =49,000

Dct=1575.00

Metallic Paint= 550.00

Leather Seats=1450.00

Premium Sound= 875.00

19'' Wheels=1000.00

Then handling Destination = 875.00

So it will equal roughly... 55,325.00


So now fellas, what do you advise me too do, to get the lowest price possible, so that i do not end up paying the full msrp?????

How would you all go about this, steps wise .. Thanks
platinumpapi is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-17-2010, 11:35 PM   #563
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
download the invoice pricing.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347070

price it out at invoice using the ED price, then add $500 and tell the dealer this is what you expect to pay and since its ED if they raise a stink tell um you can go deal with any other dealership in the country, if they don't want to make $500 then another dealership will.
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 07:46 AM   #564
smckenna@talstar.com
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Posts: 41
iTrader: (0)

On a new 2011 335is deal, my dealer is trying to charge me $200 for nitrogen. Is this a bogus charge? Doesn't the car come from Germany with nitrogen already in the tires? I don't remember seeing any nitrogen charges for any of my previous BMW's that I purchased that had nitrogen in the tires (blue valve stem caps). And even if BMW Corporate just decided to start charging for this, a whopping $200 for this seems rediculous!
Comments?
smckenna@talstar.com is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 08:41 AM   #565
Frosty
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Frosty's Avatar
 
Drives: Ordered my E92 (7/10/06)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northern NJ

Posts: 1,904
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mkoesel View Post
GREAT Le mans and montego comparison...
E90 - Le Mans
E92 - Montego


__________________
.................................................. ....................
335i Coupe (6MT) (2007: 9/06 build, pre ordered, only owner): Space Grey / Black Leatherette / Grey Poplar trim / ZCW / ZSP / BMW assist w/ bluetooth / power rear shade / navi with iDrive / comfort access keyless entry /+homelink mirror/ 154,885+miles (Nov-12-2013)
.................................................. ......................
Frosty is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 09:06 AM   #566
Frosty
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Frosty's Avatar
 
Drives: Ordered my E92 (7/10/06)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northern NJ

Posts: 1,904
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com View Post
Got it. You folks have sure gotten my attention!
interesting!!

"...Can a customer participate in both the BMW European Delivery program and the BMW Performance Center Delivery program with the same ordered vehicle?
Yes, currently a customer can participate in both the BMW European Delivery program and the BMW Performance Center Delivery program with the same ordered vehicle. Please note this is subject to change without notice based on delivery availability at the BWM Performance Center. Due to the uncertainty of shipping times and Custom's processing, a Performance Center Delivery date can not be assigned for European re-delivery vehicles until they have a firm ETA...."
__________________
.................................................. ....................
335i Coupe (6MT) (2007: 9/06 build, pre ordered, only owner): Space Grey / Black Leatherette / Grey Poplar trim / ZCW / ZSP / BMW assist w/ bluetooth / power rear shade / navi with iDrive / comfort access keyless entry /+homelink mirror/ 154,885+miles (Nov-12-2013)
.................................................. ......................
Frosty is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 09:07 AM   #567
Frosty
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Frosty's Avatar
 
Drives: Ordered my E92 (7/10/06)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northern NJ

Posts: 1,904
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by smckenna@talstar.com View Post
On a new 2011 335is deal, my dealer is trying to charge me $200 for nitrogen. Is this a bogus charge? Doesn't the car come from Germany with nitrogen already in the tires? I don't remember seeing any nitrogen charges for any of my previous BMW's that I purchased that had nitrogen in the tires (blue valve stem caps). And even if BMW Corporate just decided to start charging for this, a whopping $200 for this seems rediculous!
Comments?

...scam dealership charge.. just say you do not want it ~Frost
__________________
.................................................. ....................
335i Coupe (6MT) (2007: 9/06 build, pre ordered, only owner): Space Grey / Black Leatherette / Grey Poplar trim / ZCW / ZSP / BMW assist w/ bluetooth / power rear shade / navi with iDrive / comfort access keyless entry /+homelink mirror/ 154,885+miles (Nov-12-2013)
.................................................. ......................
Frosty is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 10:57 AM   #568
UdubBadger
Banned
 
Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

Posts: 24,716
iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty View Post
...scam dealership charge.. just say you do not want it ~Frost
agreed. even a tire shop you DIDN'T buy the tires from will fill you up for $39.99
UdubBadger is offline   No_Country
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 12:43 PM   #569
smckenna@talstar.com
Enlisted Member
 
Drives: 2010 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tallahassee, FL

Posts: 41
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by UdubBadger View Post
agreed. even a tire shop you DIDN'T buy the tires from will fill you up for $39.99
Thanks. That's what I figured.
smckenna@talstar.com is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 02:25 PM   #570
Frosty
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Frosty's Avatar
 
Drives: Ordered my E92 (7/10/06)
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Northern NJ

Posts: 1,904
iTrader: (0)

DEEP SEA BLUE METALLIC ~Frost

__________________
.................................................. ....................
335i Coupe (6MT) (2007: 9/06 build, pre ordered, only owner): Space Grey / Black Leatherette / Grey Poplar trim / ZCW / ZSP / BMW assist w/ bluetooth / power rear shade / navi with iDrive / comfort access keyless entry /+homelink mirror/ 154,885+miles (Nov-12-2013)
.................................................. ......................
Frosty is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 03:11 PM   #571
zibawal
Major
 
Drives: 2012 X5D
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SFO BAY AREA

Posts: 1,044
iTrader: (0)

i saw one x6 with oyster same color too
zibawal is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      02-18-2010, 05:39 PM   #572
stressdoc
Moderator
 
stressdoc's Avatar
 
Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MO

Posts: 9,448
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by platinumpapi View Post
Okay, guys i need your attention, as i am a newbie in getting the best deal for my beemer. This time i will not get the car, unless i get a deal.

Well, i currently own a 3 series. And, after alot of research i have made up my mind, and i am going to go with the 335is.

To get to the point, i know, very little about ED (European delivery) all i know is that i can save money. So, below are the options i am considering.

Base Price =49,000

Dct=1575.00

Metallic Paint= 550.00

Leather Seats=1450.00

Premium Sound= 875.00

19'' Wheels=1000.00

Then handling Destination = 875.00

So it will equal roughly... 55,325.00


So now fellas, what do you advise me too do, to get the lowest price possible, so that i do not end up paying the full msrp?????

How would you all go about this, steps wise .. Thanks
Invoice: Euro Delivery
42480
TC 1435
2MP 910
688 795
LC 1320
Dest 875

total 47815

Dealer should be happy with 48900

If not, we can recommend dealers that are. IMO it is usually in your best interest to deal with your local dealer. You want those guys on your side. Long term relationships are valued. That said, once the sale is done, you are largely in the graces of the service dept. so bring them a 6-pack of some good bier, or some momento back from your trip. And a photo for the CA of you with your new car in Germany, or at the Welt.

For USA delivery Base = 45680, + 200 training fee, so add 3400 (total = 51215, try for 52500 if dealer allocations are tight)
__________________
My not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829
Quaife, BMW Perf & M3 suspension, V5, M-sport, ...
Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
stressdoc is offline   Dominica
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
2011, 335is, 335is video, 335is wallpaper, bmw, e92, e93, facelift, lci

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:01 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST