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      04-11-2012, 08:45 AM   #155
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Have you tried lowering the Jehnert's HP filter? I'm presently using 40 Hz (24 dB/oct) and am really happy with the sound. As a point of reference, the gains of my HD600/4 are set to min for the Jehnerts and to my Morel HO IIs. Voltage input to the amp is set to "low". System is HiFi based, installed in an E82.
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Jehnert HP Filter

E30 Racer - No, my Jehnerts have no HP filter, so they run with whatever the JL amp puts out, up to 200 Hz anyway. It looks like the Jehnerts in the BMW enclosures are 3 dB down at 60 or 70 Hz anyway, so whatever you cutoff at 40 Hz and 24 dB/octave will not affect the sound anyway. But it will protect the Jehnert underseat mid-woofers.

Is the HP filter that you used supplied by Jehnert and who did you purchase it from?

I have to say that if I set the JL amplifier sensitivity to minimums for both my HOII speakers and the Jehnert midwoofers, that the Jehnerts would be inaudible in comparison to the HOIIs. I have to push the Jehnerts a bit to get good bass response. That being said, when pushed they sound great.
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most of the speakers listed have been discontinued.

anyone have a new list with current models?

does anyone know the door mounting depth available in a 07 e90?

id like to upgrade my speakers but dont want to pull the trigger until i know what will fit
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I am friends with the owner of Skar audio which is a new car audio company, u can check them out on Facebook or at skaraudio.com and they are also on many car audio forums as well. I'm trying to have the owner kevin come out with a 4" component set that would fit in our cars. I've come up with many designs and idea which involve using some high quality materials like Lightweight Neodymium Magnet which would help with mounting depth in order to fit our doors without hitting the window. How many of you guys would be interested in these component sets. If we can have a huge number of people interested I think we can persuade him into producing them. Also I'm sure we can work out a nice pre-order price for the forum members. If we get enough people interested we will work on some prototypes and and test them in my car and put up some videos and specs before we actually come up with a final product and it would take about 3-4 months to be produced. Thanks for your time and leave some feed back and let me know what you guys think of the idea.....

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There are already 4's that fit but

The selection of 4's for the e92 coupe are more limited because of the even thinner doors. What would be nice is a lower door panel that replaces the map holder that accommodates larger speaker. Yes I know Jehnert makes a whole panel.(I think its a whole panel)
Focals, Jehnerts and BSW's even fit in the Coupe.
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The selection of 4's for the e92 coupe are more limited because of the even thinner doors. What would be nice is a lower door panel that replaces the map holder that accommodates larger speaker. Yes I know Jehnert makes a whole panel.(I think its a whole panel)
Focals, Jehnerts and BSW's even fit in the Coupe.
Not full panels, just the lower section.
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I am friends with the owner of Skar audio which is a new car audio company, u can check them out on Facebook or at skaraudio.com and they are also on many car audio forums as well. I'm trying to have the owner kevin come out with a 4" component set that would fit in our cars. I've come up with many designs and idea which involve using some high quality materials like Lightweight Neodymium Magnet which would help with mounting depth in order to fit our doors without hitting the window. How many of you guys would be interested in these component sets. If we can have a huge number of people interested I think we can persuade him into producing them. Also I'm sure we can work out a nice pre-order price for the forum members. If we get enough people interested we will work on some prototypes and and test them in my car and put up some videos and specs before we actually come up with a final product and it would take about 3-4 months to be produced. Thanks for your time and leave some feed back and let me know what you guys think of the idea.....

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Neo is almost needed to fit the coupes. However it really is not a 'high quality material'. Its a magnet .. standard or neo.

Maybe 3-4 months to be US Soil landed, but to be produced ? I am sure his Korea build house is Much faster than that or they would be out of business already.
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Neo is almost needed to fit the coupes. However it really is not a 'high quality material'. Its a magnet .. standard or neo.

Maybe 3-4 months to be US Soil landed, but to be produced ? I am sure his Korea build house is Much faster than that or they would be out of business already.
Well I mean neo magnet and other high quality material but this is just an idea I want to present to kevin if the demand is there. I'm not sure how long it takes for the products to come in I'm just using that as an estimate, we would need to have some prototypes made, shipped and tested and final product would than be chosen and the process would start from there.......
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alternative 8" subwoofer?

Anyone know if these alternates are good?

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1368W1V...1#overview-tab

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_575P3SD...-8.html?tp=111
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No. No subwoofer fits except SWS-8, which is a wimpy sub at best.
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I can tell that most of you have larger audio upgrade budgets than I do, but does anyone have sugestions for me to get better sound from my base level audio system without splurging on an amp and a separate subwoofer?

I have the professional nav system but just the base stereo, unfortunately.

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I can tell that most of you have larger audio upgrade budgets than I do, but does anyone have sugestions for me to get better sound from my base level audio system without splurging on an amp and a separate subwoofer?

I have the professional nav system but just the base stereo, unfortunately.

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Just to confirm, when you say you have the base system, you mean you do NOT have tweeters in the door/window sails, right?

That was actually pretty uncommon in the US, only offered for about 18 months or so, so it's worth asking.

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The other data point: What's your budget?

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And a comment: You're in the speaker's thread. That means you have sort of decided what you want to upgrade (the speakers) but if you really have the base system (again, that's unusual) you'll have to start with a way to de-equalize and better amplify it, before any new speakers make sense.

Some of the stickie threads will give you more details.
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How about this sub/woofer for the underseats: Dayton Audio NS210-44 8" Neodymium Low-Profile DVC Subwoofer? Looks like it'd be an easier fit than the Morels. If I blow a Jehnert I might try one. Hell, at $99 I might try fitting one for kicks and grins.

Specifications: • Power handling: 200 watts RMS/400 watts max • VCdia: 2" • Le: 0.85 mH • Impedance: 2 ohms • Re: 1.82 ohms • Frequency range: 35-500 Hz • Fs: 38 Hz • SPL: 91 dB 2.83V/1m • Vas: 0.51 cu. ft. • Qms: 5.74 • Qes: 0.39 • Qts: 0.37 • Xmax: 7 mm • Dimensions: Overall diameter: 8-1/4", Cutout diameter: 7-3/8", Depth: 2-1/2"
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How about this sub/woofer for the underseats: Dayton Audio NS210-44 8" Neodymium Low-Profile DVC Subwoofer? Looks like it'd be an easier fit than the Morels. If I blow a Jehnert I might try one. Hell, at $99 I might try fitting one for kicks and grins.

Specifications: Power handling: 200 watts RMS/400 watts max VCdia: 2" Le: 0.85 mH Impedance: 2 ohms Re: 1.82 ohms Frequency range: 35-500 Hz Fs: 38 Hz SPL: 91 dB 2.83V/1m Vas: 0.51 cu. ft. Qms: 5.74 Qes: 0.39 Qts: 0.37 Xmax: 7 mm Dimensions: Overall diameter: 8-1/4", Cutout diameter: 7-3/8", Depth: 2-1/2"
I don't think fitment will be any different than the Morels because it does not have a truncated frame. The only 8" woofer that can be recessed lower into the enclosure is one with a truncated frame. Traditional round frame woofers will need to sit on top of the enclosure and thus making actual fitment exactly the same as the morel. The only rounded frame woofer that could be recessed into the enclosure would be one that is smaller than 8". The Jehnert also uses a truncated frame which explains why it doesn't have the clearance issues of the Morel.
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anyone have a new list with current models?

does anyone know the door mounting depth available in a 07 e90?

id like to upgrade my speakers but dont want to pull the trigger until i know what will fit
Same. Mine is old, 06 325i Sedan. The sound is starting to crackle and would like to get some aftermarket speakers as replacements.

Can't we get something that's a bit better than stock? Right now, anything new should be better.
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Just to confirm, when you say you have the base system, you mean you do NOT have tweeters in the door/window sails, right?

That was actually pretty uncommon in the US, only offered for about 18 months or so, so it's worth asking.

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The other data point: What's your budget?

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And a comment: You're in the speaker's thread. That means you have sort of decided what you want to upgrade (the speakers) but if you really have the base system (again, that's unusual) you'll have to start with a way to de-equalize and better amplify it, before any new speakers make sense.

Some of the stickie threads will give you more details.
Yes, unfortunately I have the base audio system (no tweeters). Budget is under $300. Just bought the car used and am broke... but lovin the ride.
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Yes, unfortunately I have the base audio system (no tweeters). Budget is under $300. Just bought the car used and am broke... but lovin the ride.
With that budget, there is nothing meaningful that you can do north of 200Hz. You may however be able to add a sub and amp for $300 if you do everything yourself.
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For what it's worth, I have a pair of 1 month old underseat subs with spacers and connectors in their original boxes ready to go. These are the SWS 8xi.
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For what it's worth, I have a pair of 1 month old underseat subs with spacers and connectors in their original boxes ready to go. These are the SWS 8xi.
Those are cool subs. Don't reach well up in to the midrange without EQ, for a 200hz crossover with the doors, and might not shine fully with the HiFi amp and certainly not with the head unit chip based amp that the true "base" stereo has.

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To the OP: If I were in your shoes, I'd not expect anything to help me for $300 BUT I would keep my eyes open for the following (in this order):

1. JBL MS-8 or equivalent: This will de-eq the head unit and have better amplification than you have now. You'll still have crappy speakers but it's a step.

2. Someone's used H/K/Logic 7 speaker set. These are not the most awesome speakers but far better than what you have -- and will fit pretty good (perhaps with some modifications for placing the tweaters in the windows and the larger underseat woofers under the seat. Heck even a used set of the hifi speakers would be a nice step up for you (but remember step 1 first -- you need a way to de-eq the head unit output, handle speaker level signals, and amplify them).

3. When rolling in cash (>$1k) consider even better speakers, and dedicated amplification. Lots of good ideas in this thread -- including Sid's SWS underseat speakers (though I'm not sure if you need more than just spacers, given what you have right now.)

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Bottom line, for $300, I'm not sure there's something meaningful you can do with the base system.

The one suggestion to add an outboard amp and sub is not bad, if you want a bunch more bass -- and don't mind poor midrange and non existent highs. Depending on the music you listen to, that might be a nice step up. But it will be a DIY, budget gear, kind of set up -- and in my opinion does not solve the main problem with the base system, which is too little power, too little range in the existing speakers, etc.
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Kaigoss - Can you please add a Morel Integra Ovation 4 to the list of centre speakers?
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