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      04-22-2016, 07:47 PM   #1
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Talking Upgrade Stereo BASE e90 328i 2011

First, Thanks for all your help in advanced.(Forums)

CTuna, as i've read over the post you gave us, MB QUART (Budget wise) , Jenhertz(don't know anything) and Morel (way expensive) are the best choice to go with the inside speaker (underseat and Front with tweeters = for which will be ordering the seals from BMW).

This way will be saving my midrange and front, and leaving space for some upgrade later on.

I did not find at eBay or Amazon anything about jenhertz.

http://www.amazon.com/MB-Quart-QM200...words=mb+quart <<< Here.

I already have the CleanSweep, and Will be buying an Amp 4 channel for it, As for now thinking on the Kicker 400.4 or Rockford P4004. or the JL audio 400.4.

So bottom Line, i will change the underseat, front speakers and add some tweeters. As stage 1.

If something, later on, will be adding JL 10" custom in the trunk that would allow me to fill out the subwoofer.

If someone has any input this is the time, before i spend the first 250 dollars

Thanks in advance...
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I'm looking to upgrade my base as well. How much will everything cost you?
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so far, the MB quart 200.3 cost 245$$ at amazon or eBay.
you may need an AMP to run that, anything around 400+ RMS will be good. So at eBay they are around 100$$$ bucks.

that's 345 $$$. Plus cable, times, etc easily goes you around 500-600. But the good point of this upgrade, as I'm seeing it, consist that if you would like to jump to the F30 later next year , it will be good for you to take your own upgrade to the new car, which will be better that anything BMW has, i guess.

Do it by parts... don't go crazy :P
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You will not find Jehnert (note the lack of a 'z') legitimately on Amazon or Ebay. I don't condone or permit it, ever.
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      04-23-2016, 09:59 AM   #5
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ohhhhhhh ok, sr. Im thinking on going with MB quart anyway.
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so far, the MB quart 200.3 cost 245$$ at amazon or eBay.
you may need an AMP to run that, anything around 400+ RMS will be good. So at eBay they are around 100$$$ bucks.

that's 345 $$$. Plus cable, times, etc easily goes you around 500-600. But the good point of this upgrade, as I'm seeing it, consist that if you would like to jump to the F30 later next year , it will be good for you to take your own upgrade to the new car, which will be better that anything BMW has, i guess.

Do it by parts... don't go crazy :P
I can swing 500-600, does that include labor? Don't I also need a cleansweep in conjunction with the amp?

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Well, the purpose of the cleansweep is to flattening the freq from HeadUnit and be able to adjust it to your desire freq with the new AMP. The HeadUnit by itself its Heavily Equalized on our BASE stereo...
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If you don't want to buy a cleansweep, you can also code your HU to hifi which will flatten out the EQ and have the deck send out low level signal.

This will require all speakers to be amped as the HU will no longer send out the high level signal to push the speakers directly.
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If you don't want to buy a cleansweep, you can also code your HU to hifi which will flatten out the EQ and have the deck send out low level signal.

This will require all speakers to be amped as the HU will no longer send out the high level signal to push the speakers directly.
How much is coding and where do I get it done? I would assume this is the cheaper option.
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If you don't want to buy a cleansweep, you can also code your HU to hifi which will flatten out the EQ and have the deck send out low level signal.

This will require all speakers to be amped as the HU will no longer send out the high level signal to push the speakers directly.
How much is coding and where do I get it done? I would assume this is the cheaper option.
I'm sure there are coders near you, I think there's a coding section in the forum. Check there.

If I had to guess, coding would be $40-100 depending on what options you wanted (you can code all types of stuff, including closing your windows/sunroof with the key fob).

Check the forums for the popular options.
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I'm sure there are coders near you, I think there's a coding section in the forum. Check there.

If I had to guess, coding would be $40-100 depending on what options you wanted (you can code all types of stuff, including closing your windows/sunroof with the key fob).

Check the forums for the popular options.
Ok cool thanks. So then will I need an amp with a certain number of channels since all speakers need ampage?
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I'm sure there are coders near you, I think there's a coding section in the forum. Check there.

If I had to guess, coding would be $40-100 depending on what options you wanted (you can code all types of stuff, including closing your windows/sunroof with the key fob).

Check the forums for the popular options.
Ok cool thanks. So then will I need an amp with a certain number of channels since all speakers need ampage?
If you leave around Miami area let me know, maybe I can help you.
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I'm sure there are coders near you, I think there's a coding section in the forum. Check there.

If I had to guess, coding would be $40-100 depending on what options you wanted (you can code all types of stuff, including closing your windows/sunroof with the key fob).

Check the forums for the popular options.
Ok cool thanks. So then will I need an amp with a certain number of channels since all speakers need ampage?
That's right. You'll need an amp, and the number of channels will depend on whether you keep your rear speakers active or not (many suggest removing for better staging in the front, I prefer them active for rear passengers).

With all speakers, you'll want 6 channels. JL 600/6 is a super popular choice. I think whatever amp you to choose, needs to accept balanced inputs or something.

If you don't care for rear speakers you can do a 4 channel amp.

If you add a sub, most popular way is to have a separate mono block amp for that.
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That's right. You'll need an amp, and the number of channels will depend on whether you keep your rear speakers active or not (many suggest removing for better staging in the front, I prefer them active for rear passengers).

With all speakers, you'll want 6 channels. JL 600/6 is a super popular choice. I think whatever amp you to choose, needs to accept balanced inputs or something.

If you don't care for rear speakers you can do a 4 channel amp.

If you add a sub, most popular way is to have a separate mono block amp for that.
Yeah, I think i'll prefer to have the rear speaker active as well. The JL 600/6 is a little out of my price range. Any other decent ones for those on a budget?
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as far as i keep reading over the topics, a lot people actually recommend to focus on mid and front... Im going with that setup and leaving the rear with the HEAdunit
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That's right. You'll need an amp, and the number of channels will depend on whether you keep your rear speakers active or not (many suggest removing for better staging in the front, I prefer them active for rear passengers).

With all speakers, you'll want 6 channels. JL 600/6 is a super popular choice. I think whatever amp you to choose, needs to accept balanced inputs or something.

If you don't care for rear speakers you can do a 4 channel amp.

If you add a sub, most popular way is to have a separate mono block amp for that.
Yeah, I think i'll prefer to have the rear speaker active as well. The JL 600/6 is a little out of my price range. Any other decent ones for those on a budget?
I looked for a used amp to keep on budget. Ended up with a JL 700/5. Not ideal since it's not 6 channels, but you can bridge the two under seat woofers to one channel and have a total of 5.

Otherwise you could do a 4-ch for your doors and rears, and another 4-ch for all woofers (2 underseat, 1 bridges for trunk sub).
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I looked for a used amp to keep on budget. Ended up with a JL 700/5. Not ideal since it's not 6 channels, but you can bridge the two under seat woofers to one channel and have a total of 5.

Otherwise you could do a 4-ch for your doors and rears, and another 4-ch for all woofers (2 underseat, 1 bridges for trunk sub).
Actually both options are around the same pricre:

Cleansweep $300
4 channel $150

JL XD600/6 - $450

So in terms of sound, which would be better? I don't plan on adding a sub.

For speakers I will probably go with mb quartz.
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as far as i keep reading over the topics, a lot people actually recommend to focus on mid and front... Im going with that setup and leaving the rear with the HEAdunit
Yeah I read that too. So for your MB quartz speakers, what else do you need besides the oem tweeter pods?
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I looked for a used amp to keep on budget. Ended up with a JL 700/5. Not ideal since it's not 6 channels, but you can bridge the two under seat woofers to one channel and have a total of 5.

Otherwise you could do a 4-ch for your doors and rears, and another 4-ch for all woofers (2 underseat, 1 bridges for trunk sub).
Actually both options are around the same pricre:

Cleansweep $300
4 channel $150

JL XD600/6 - $450

So in terms of sound, which would be better? I don't plan on adding a sub.

For speakers I will probably go with mb quartz.
I'd stick with the 6-ch amp if you're amplifying the rear speakers for your back seat passengers.

If you change your mind and want to focus on the front stage only then you can get by with just a 4-ch amp (amplify your doors and seat woofers), and still skip on the cleansweep by recoding your HU.
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Yeah I read that too. So for your MB quartz speakers, what else do you need besides the oem tweeter pods?
Well, you have the front speakers, the tweeters and the subwoofer in that package, so you need the seal doors and the amp.

I bought my Cleansweep on eBay, cost me 60 bucks, check it out because you may save some big buck $$$$ if you get a good deal.


Also, Concentrate as im doing on the MB quartz for now with the amp, later you will decide if you need subwoofer or not. Money wise go with 4 amp ch for the interior leaving the rear for now, if it doesn't satisfy your needs you can always upgrade from that.

That's what i think.

Btw, what do you guys think about the MB QUART AMP ? they are really cheap on amazon or eBay, but does are really worthy ? 80-100 for a 600/1000watts amplifier ?

Im thinking on going with a Kicker/Rockford or JL audio 4ch as for now.
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I'd stick with the 6-ch amp if you're amplifying the rear speakers for your back seat passengers.

If you change your mind and want to focus on the front stage only then you can get by with just a 4-ch amp (amplify your doors and seat woofers), and still skip on the cleansweep by recoding your HU.
I thought you said if I skipped the cleansweep and coded the HU for hifi, then I needed to amp all 6 speakers?
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Well, you have the front speakers, the tweeters and the subwoofer in that package, so you need the seal doors and the amp.

I bought my Cleansweep on eBay, cost me 60 bucks, check it out because you may save some big buck $$$$ if you get a good deal.


Also, Concentrate as im doing on the MB quartz for now with the amp, later you will decide if you need subwoofer or not. Money wise go with 4 amp ch for the interior leaving the rear for now, if it doesn't satisfy your needs you can always upgrade from that.

That's what i think.

Btw, what do you guys think about the MB QUART AMP ? they are really cheap on amazon or eBay, but does are really worthy ? 80-100 for a 600/1000watts amplifier ?

Im thinking on going with a Kicker/Rockford or JL audio 4ch as for now.
Yeah I don't really care for a loud rear. But i do want at least some sound there. I'll check ebay for some deals.
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