Revealed: Lexus CT200H. Watch out 1 series. - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

DASHOCKER · 02-28-2010, 02:44 PM

Here is Lexus's answer to the 1 series.... Introducing the Lexus CT200H..

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Lexus showed the LF-Ch concept at last fall’s Frankfurt motor show, and now the company is showing the production version, the CT200h. The model is making its world debut at the 2010 Geneva auto show.

The ‘h’ in CT200h, of course, stands for ‘hybrid.’ There will be no gasoline-only version of the car; it will only be available with a gasoline-electric system, mating up a 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine with a "powerful" electric motor and a nickel-metal hydride battery pack. A continuously variable transmission shunts the power to the front wheels.

The individual outputs of the electric and gas portions as well as the combined system output remain unspecified, but the presence of the 1.8-liter has us a bit worried. That's the size of the four-cylinder in the Prius, which makes 98 hp and contributes to a total system output of 134 hp. The CT200h is going to have to produce more ponies than that in order to deliver the promised "dynamic driving experience," as well as provide a credible challenge to the CT's competition, including the Audi A3 and BMW 1-series. So we hope for something at least near the 187 hp churned out by the North American HS250h sedan, in which a 147-hp, 2.4-liter engine is mated with a 105-kW (141-hp) electric motor.

Lexus says the CT200h was "designed with the European market in mind," a statement backed up by the five-door layout. There are four driver-selectable driving modes available in the CT200h: Normal, Eco, EV, and Sport. In Normal mode, the car can operate on battery-only power up to speeds of up to 28 mph, while EV mode forces the car to rely only on battery power for distances of up an absolutely unfathomable 1.2 miles. Switching the car to Eco dulls throttle response and optimizes the climate-control system to save more fuel, while Sport mode tightens up the steering, ups throttle aggressiveness, and lowers the stability-control threshold.

The interior is lined with the usual leather upholstery and metallic accents, and an eight-inch LCD screen will display infotainment functions. Lexus's computer-mouse-style Remote Touch controller lives on the center console. The CT is 170.1 inches long, 69.5 inches wide, and 56.3 inches tall, and there are 102.4 inches between the wheels. For comparison, a Prius is 5.5 inches longer, 0.8 inch narrower, and 2.4 inches taller, while riding on a 3.9-inch longer wheelbase.

Lexus is touting the CT200h as the “first full hybrid vehicle in the premium compact segment,” but that statement only applies to Europe, which doesn’t get the HS250h or its Toyota Sai sibling. The CT200h goes on sale this fall throughout the world, although there's no confirmation yet that the U.S. will be among the included markets.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...rid-auto_shows

footie · 02-28-2010, 02:48 PM

It will probably be a great little hatch but it's unexciting, dare I say boring to look at.

hks786 · 02-28-2010, 02:53 PM

Nahhhhh. Nice interior, better than 1 series. Car looks heavy though, and design isnt better than 1er or A3.

Feyd · 02-28-2010, 02:59 PM

Looks like a pinched off turd.

SantaPimp27 · 02-28-2010, 03:10 PM

horrible

immiketoo · 02-28-2010, 04:04 PM

It looks like they took one feature off of every car in its class, put them all in a bag shook it up and manufactured it just how the pieces fell.

TSM330i · 02-28-2010, 04:08 PM

Since when is Lexus sell a Mazda 3?

It's like every Lexus that's tested - perfectly BORING to drive.
They have have "good" quality, but you'll NEVER see a Lexus win a comparison test.

Lexus = BMW for women

dirtyylicous · 02-28-2010, 05:46 PM

Love the interior and the front end, thats about it

smmmurf · 02-28-2010, 06:18 PM

I'd rather have a Prius.

Ender514 · 02-28-2010, 08:28 PM

the front looks terrible

s4mula · 02-28-2010, 09:21 PM

Watch out 1 series here comes another car that is going to clutter the left lane going 5 under.

Memphis1 · 02-28-2010, 09:57 PM

i don't know why anybody pays a premium for lexus, infiniti or acura. they're rebadged toyotas, nissans and hondas.

japanese don't even buy them in japan.

BlackLemon · 02-28-2010, 11:31 PM

OMG thats so gay. Lexus has terrible cars

Garduna · 03-01-2010, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feyd

Looks like a pinched off turd.

no kidding >_> blah, so bland

DougLikesBMW · 03-01-2010, 12:49 AM

Lol, Lexus sucks.

Bluechipper · 03-01-2010, 02:03 AM

Looks like crap.

Boost Gomez · 03-01-2010, 03:10 AM

Make it a shitty answer to the 1-series at that.

03-01-2010, 04:43 AM

A3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever this is..

boymonkey · 03-01-2010, 07:22 AM

1-series and A3 have hybrids? I don't see the comparison.

gonzo · 03-01-2010, 08:25 AM

These hybrids are nothing but money makers for the manufactures and sheep food for certain consumers.

Where are it's fuel ratings?

Look at the new Benz E class hybrid. What, 3 mpg better and a $7000 premium over the standard? psssfffttt.

This all day over that. Hybrid shmybrid.

DASHOCKER · 03-01-2010, 10:26 AM

This car should be made in coupe form if it ever comes stateside. The hatch back version looks like a grafted Lexus RX & IS.

flyinb501 · 03-01-2010, 01:17 PM

Lame...

02-28-2010, 02:53 PM	#3
hks786 Major General Drives: * Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 5,311 iTrader: (0)	Nahhhhh. Nice interior, better than 1 series. Car looks heavy though, and design isnt better than 1er or A3. __________________

02-28-2010, 03:10 PM	#5
SantaPimp27 Lieutenant Drives: Slow homie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jersey Posts: 412 iTrader: (1)	horrible __________________

02-28-2010, 04:08 PM	#7
TSM330i 2006 330i, TSM, Black, manual, sport Drives: E90 330i, E86 Z4 3.0si Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Chester Springs, PA Posts: 2,630 iTrader: (1)	Since when is Lexus sell a Mazda 3? It's like every Lexus that's tested - perfectly BORING to drive. They have have "good" quality, but you'll NEVER see a Lexus win a comparison test. Lexus = BMW for women __________________ 2006 330i, TSM, Black, Sport, JIC Cross Coil-Overs, UUC Sways, 18" Advan RS, Mich PSS 255/265, Custom Alcantara M-tech steering wheel, VAC pedals, Rogue shifter, M-Tech front, CF emblems, Dinan TB, Intake, exhaust, strut bar, Stoptech BBK, LSD, M3 susp., LUX 5, CF Hood and CSL, Sparco Seats, AA tune, CF Roof

02-28-2010, 06:18 PM	#9
smmmurf Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2009 M3 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 1,974 iTrader: (7)	I'd rather have a Prius. __________________ M3 Sedan LCI - AW/Black - 6MT - no moonroof - no folding seats - RAC RG63 - clear bra by Omega Werks SFR SCCA Spec Miata Champion & driving coach (NASA, NCRC, PTech, private)

02-28-2010, 08:28 PM	#10
Ender514 General Drives: 2009 E92 335i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Philly Posts: 20,977 iTrader: (0)	the front looks terrible __________________ 09' E92 335i \| 6MT \| Montego Blue \| Black Dakota Leather \| Dark Burl Walnut \| Premium \| Sport \| Cold Weather \| Nav \| Sirius \| Comfort Access \| iPod and USB adapter

02-28-2010, 02:48 PM	#2
footie Major General Drives: ???????????? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BMW M3 will get a V6TT Posts: 7,508 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	It will probably be a great little hatch but it's unexciting, dare I say boring to look at.

02-28-2010, 02:59 PM	#4
Feyd Major Drives: a DEEZZULL Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,239 iTrader: (2)	Looks like a pinched off turd.

02-28-2010, 05:46 PM	#8
dirtyylicous Swagger on a trillion Drives: IS300 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: CT Posts: 371 iTrader: (0)	Love the interior and the front end, thats about it

02-28-2010, 09:21 PM	#11
s4mula New Member Drives: Audi S4 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	Watch out 1 series here comes another car that is going to clutter the left lane going 5 under.

02-28-2010, 09:57 PM	#12
Memphis1 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: Z4 SDrive 35i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CT Posts: 1,843 iTrader: (0)	i don't know why anybody pays a premium for lexus, infiniti or acura. they're rebadged toyotas, nissans and hondas. japanese don't even buy them in japan. __________________

02-28-2010, 11:31 PM	#13
BlackLemon First Lieutenant Drives: 11 X5 50i, 10 Jag XFR, 08super Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 323 iTrader: (0)	OMG thats so gay. Lexus has terrible cars

03-01-2010, 12:49 AM	#15
DougLikesBMW Fapmin Drives: '09 Jetta SE MT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Plano, Texas Posts: 2,636 iTrader: (0)	Lol, Lexus sucks. __________________ Gilt Groupe and Jackthreads invites.

03-01-2010, 02:03 AM	#16
Bluechipper Banned Drives: 09 M3 Vert Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 256 iTrader: (0)	Looks like crap.

03-01-2010, 03:10 AM	#17
Boost Gomez Colonel Drives: C63 AMG Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 2,367 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	Make it a shitty answer to the 1-series at that. __________________

03-01-2010, 04:43 AM	#18
my92 Guest Drives: Posts: n/a	A3 >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever this is..

03-01-2010, 07:22 AM	#19
boymonkey Lieutenant Drives: slow Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 537 iTrader: (0)	1-series and A3 have hybrids? I don't see the comparison.

03-01-2010, 08:25 AM	#20
gonzo Brigadier General Drives: as many as possible Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: TeXXXas Posts: 4,757 iTrader: (0)	These hybrids are nothing but money makers for the manufactures and sheep food for certain consumers. Where are it's fuel ratings? Look at the new Benz E class hybrid. What, 3 mpg better and a $7000 premium over the standard? psssfffttt. This all day over that. Hybrid shmybrid. Attached Images Last edited by gonzo; 03-01-2010 at 08:32 AM.

03-01-2010, 10:26 AM	#21
DASHOCKER The power of V! Drives: 2007 335i coupe steptronic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,528 iTrader: (0) Garage List 1998 Lexus Gs400 [0.00] 2010 ebony & ivory [0.00] 2006 BMW X3 [0.00] 2009 pics [0.00] 2009 e92 335 xdrive [0.00]	This car should be made in coupe form if it ever comes stateside. The hatch back version looks like a grafted Lexus RX & IS. __________________ 2007 335 coupe Alpine white, steptronic, sportpack, etc. (gone) 2006 X3 3.0 steptronic Titanium Silver, 2009 E92 335xdrive, next.... Caddy CTS_V!

03-01-2010, 01:17 PM	#22
flyinb501 Lieutenant Drives: G35 Coupe, Dodge Dakota Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 529 iTrader: (0)	Lame...

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