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View Poll Results: Wavetrac Differential or Quaife ATB Differential
Wavetrac LSD Differential 68 45.95%
Quaife ATB LSD Differential 73 49.32%
Other... 7 4.73%
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      03-10-2010, 06:44 AM   #45
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What type of maintenance is required with Quaife and Wavetrac differentials ?
oil change, first one after 1000K than every 30K miles maybe? i will change my oil in the quaife in april after about 8K of driving around. after that i am not going to change oil again.
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Thanks Belarus. It arrived yesterday, so I am now just waiting on my clutch/flywheel. I am really hopeful I can get everything installed this weekend.
At least post a PIC of it on this thread to tease us.......
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At least post a PIC of it on this thread to tease us.......
Lol, which do you want to see? The clutch/flywheel, rear diff, UUC SSK, or DSSR? I have a lot to install. LOL!
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Lol, which do you want to see? The clutch/flywheel, rear diff, UUC SSK, or DSSR? I have a lot to install. LOL!


Start with rear LSD diff...

UUC SSK, or DSSR don't know what that is...
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Start with rear LSD diff...

UUC SSK, or DSSR don't know what that is...
I am going to try to complete everything this weekend. I have all parts at my house now.. complete final drive with LSD installed, clutch, flywheel, UUC short shift kit, and UUC dual shear shift rod. I will try to get these reviews up asap.
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I am going to try to complete everything this weekend. I have all parts at my house now.. complete final drive with LSD installed, clutch, flywheel, UUC short shift kit, and UUC dual shear shift rod. I will try to get these reviews up asap.
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      03-13-2010, 09:12 AM   #51
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as far as i know nobody in sweden has a 480 horsepower 335 or one at least big bigger turbos since you cannot get up to that number without them or Nitro.
But maybe this guy is off the forums or clubs.
Concerning LSD there is a huge difference between a real LSD and e-diff.
he may have been talking about crank, not rear wheel
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      03-13-2010, 11:17 AM   #52
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Works flawless - don't even know its back there until you look in the mirror and see two real good lines
Same here. I've been running Quaife for a year and I have no idea about the noise of Quaife diffs that was mentioned in the thread several times. No noise at all.

P.S. If someone is interested, there are pics of installation of the diff in my mods' installation thread (link in my signature).
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I think the real question at hand is: which one lets you do better drifts?

(haha only kidding guys. I'm on the same boat and not sure what to decide on)
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Recommended Maintenance what I've managed to find out

Quaife: Not mandatory, but once every 30K miles or so would be a good practice to change fluid

Wavetrac: Change fluid after first 1K miles (brake in period), after that every 30K miles.
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Hi guys,

I've just had Wavetrac installed and I must say it makes a bit of a strange noise occasionally - when I shift into first from neutral or from first into second I can sometimes hear (and feel) a relatively quiet bang coming from the transmission. Doesn't happen every time and doesn't happen in other gears.
The diff itself is working fine (as far as it's function is concerned), but this noise makes it a bit of a nuisance...
Did anyone ever have anything like this?
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Hi guys,

I've just had Wavetrac installed and I must say it makes a bit of a strange noise occasionally - when I shift into first from neutral or from first into second I can sometimes hear (and feel) a relatively quiet bang coming from the transmission. Doesn't happen every time and doesn't happen in other gears.
The diff itself is working fine (as far as it's function is concerned), but this noise makes it a bit of a nuisance...
Did anyone ever have anything like this?
Any lack getting resolution ?

Have you spoken to WaveTrac customer support and/or the shop that did installation for you ?
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I am going to try to complete everything this weekend. I have all parts at my house now.. complete final drive with LSD installed, clutch, flywheel, UUC short shift kit, and UUC dual shear shift rod. I will try to get these reviews up asap.
Waiting patiently....
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Hi guys,

I've just had Wavetrac installed and I must say it makes a bit of a strange noise occasionally - when I shift into first from neutral or from first into second I can sometimes hear (and feel) a relatively quiet bang coming from the transmission. Doesn't happen every time and doesn't happen in other gears.
The diff itself is working fine (as far as it's function is concerned), but this noise makes it a bit of a nuisance...
Did anyone ever have anything like this?
Well I've heard this noise on a quaife on a fellow forum member's car and it may point to a bad install..
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Well I've heard this noise on a quaife on a fellow forum member's car and it may point to a bad install..
You are right, Quaife has been noise free. Most if not all the noise related issues are of improper installation and incorrect back-lash.
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Waiting patiently....
Install went well from what I can tell. I cannot get on the car yet because I have to break the clutch in. The installation was completed this weekend though. I will have full DIY details and in my opinion this is definitely a DIY possible job.
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Install went well from what I can tell. I cannot get on the car yet because I have to break the clutch in. The installation was completed this weekend though. I will have full DIY details and in my opinion this is definitely a DIY possible job.
IIRC you got the whole pumpkin with LSD already insalled in it? If that's the case then yes it's possible to DIY. I was hoping it's a DIY on how to install LSD into a pumpkin and how to set up backlash
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IIRC you got the whole pumpkin with LSD already insalled in it? If that's the case then yes it's possible to DIY. I was hoping it's a DIY on how to install LSD into a pumpkin and how to set up backlash
Both Wavetrac and Quaife recommends professional installation. You can certainly try DIY, but it is a risk you take if you have never set up a diff before.
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Both Wavetrac and Quaife recommends professional installation. You can certainly try DIY, but it is a risk you take if you have never set up a diff before.
Haha I'm definitely not touching this...installing coilovers was challenging enough for me

My friend is BMW tech and basically able to install anything including engine swap. He can do the pumpkin re&re which is easy, he knows how setting up diff works just never done it.

Is setting up the LSD 100% necessary? A member here said he just put it right in without adjusting anything and it never makes any noise, is that just fluke??

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Haha I'm definitely not touching this...installing coilovers was challenging enough for me

My friend is BMW tech and basically able to install anything including engine swap. He can do the pumpkin re&re which is easy, he knows how setting up diff works just never done it.

Is setting up the LSD 100% necessary? A member here said he just put it right in without adjusting anything and it never makes any noise, is that just fluke??
Back-lash and pattern are always checked when setting up a diff. If you don't, you will most likely get a wine or even a clunk!
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Install went well from what I can tell. I cannot get on the car yet because I have to break the clutch in. The installation was completed this weekend though. I will have full DIY details and in my opinion this is definitely a DIY possible job.
. Except in my case I have a welded ring so I'm SOL and will need to use a shop...
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. Except in my case I have a welded ring so I'm SOL and will need to use a shop...
You can purchase a complete Quaife or Wavetrac Final Drive, then have a local shop install it. Return the core for a credit. You are done!
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