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      03-24-2010, 01:25 AM   #23
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12-13lbs of boost sounds a little too low, why wouldn't anyone else be able to do that? Or why would the same car running more boost be slower?
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12-13lbs of boost sounds a little too low, why wouldn't anyone else be able to do that? Or why would the same car running more boost be slower?
Because Hotrod loves to post that he can run the same if not faster than anyone else with less mods or power. Oh and also the attention he gets when he posts about how simple it was to do it. I'm sure he will be back with a new record tonight using stock wheels and tires running full weight using a off the shelf map.
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Talking about 118MPH on 12 PSI boost no spray. Not your stock run.
Okay, tested again, same map. The analog gauge seems to read from .5-1.5 psi higher. Which gauge is more accurate? Who knows, but close enough to make relative comparisons.

Same map#9, this time I got 119.1 mph. Absolutely full weight with runflat tires (4.1 seconds 0-60mph, not bad!)
Same 91 octane. DCI,DP+ Meth. Analog gauge showed boost between the shifts to be below 15psi max. Car runs smooth and strong.
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4.1 seconds 0-60mph. WOW
And this was just 91 oct, DCI, and Meth?
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Because Hotrod loves to post that he can run the same if not faster than anyone else with less mods or power. Oh and also the attention he gets when he posts about how simple it was to do it. I'm sure he will be back with a new record tonight using stock wheels and tires running full weight using a off the shelf map.
Seriously SLV335i, you are like an irritating little gnat. If you don't believe my info, don't read it. You see my name by the threads I start. Just skip them. I mean, come on, of course all my runs are fake. I can't run 120mph without nitrous. And I'm sure you will say my 133mph runs with nitrous were using some hidden flux capacitor. I have pretty much backtracked on my mods to go back down to 108 mph traps. I am pretty much showing you step by step what it takes to get my car from the 107mph to 120mph to 130 mph traps. Even if you don't find it informative or interesting, there are some other members on this forum that would like to learn without your childish disruptions.

Here I took a video for you tonight of a 118.4 mph run (the slowest on this same map), showing the run, the Vbox display, and the full interior of the car intact




I also took a video of the 2 gauges side by side for you..




Now...do you have any other silly questions? I always back up my claims with time slips, videos, vbox, photos....anything else you need to pacify your doubts???
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on what SLV335I said and then Hotrod writes.


But seriously, good job. I'm interested as well in your progress.
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Seriously SLV335i, you are like an irritating little gnat. If you don't believe my info, don't read it. You see my name by the threads I start. Just skip them. I mean, come on, of course all my runs are fake. I can't run 120mph without nitrous. And I'm sure you will say my 133mph runs with nitrous were using some hidden flux capacitor. I have pretty much backtracked on my mods to go back down to 108 mph traps. I am pretty much showing you step by step what it takes to get my car from the 107mph to 120mph to 130 mph traps. Even if you don't find it informative or interesting, there are some other members on this forum that would like to learn without your childish disruptions.

Here I took a video for you tonight of a 118.4 mph run (the slowest on this same map), showing the run, the Vbox display, and the full interior of the car intact




I also took a video of the 2 gauges side by side for you..




Now...do you have any other silly questions? I always back up my claims with time slips, videos, vbox, photos....anything else you need to pacify your doubts???

Where did SLV doubt you in his post?

All he said was you like to show off.

Which is completely fine seeing as you got the results to back it up.
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4.1 seconds 0-60mph. WOW
And this was just 91 oct, DCI, and Meth?
And 2.5" UR downpipes. Of which I am very curious about the long term trap speed benefits. I'm going to try and test without them this weekend to see. Like I said, right after installing them, I got around a 1mph gain. But 2 wks later, the car was slower than before I put them on. Are they the cause? The possibiility has always bothered me.

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Where did SLV doubt you in his post?

All he said was you like to show off.

Which is completely fine seeing as you got the results to back it up.
It's just that it seems 10:1, his numerous responses in my threads are negative.
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And 2.5" UR downpipes. Of which I am very curious about the long term trap speed benefits. I'm going to try and test without them this weekend to see. Like I said, right after installing them, I got around a 1mph gain. But 2 wks later, the car was slower than before I put them on. Are they the cause? The possibiility has always bothered me.



It's just that it seems 10:1, his numerous responses in my threads are negative.
I don't doubt you, I'm just clarifying his previous response. He may very well have been a **** previously, I wouldn't know.

Either way I appreciate the work you have done.
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Tell you what, if my 12-13psi is really 16-17 psi like you think, I will turn up the boost to 15-17psi boost. If it really is 20PSI+, I don't think it will be working very well on 91 oct+ meth without any type of surging, codes, etc.

I will go and switch my map to the higher boost one and see if I can get you some numbers back tonight.
Not trying to instigate dude, that's just what I found in my own gauge not that long ago.. maybe 1 week or so. Have you logged and compared boost readings?

if it is running that low and you're getting such good numbers, then awesome.. I was just stating something for you to look at if it made you curious
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Seriously SLV335i, you are like an irritating little gnat. If you don't believe my info, don't read it. You see my name by the threads I start. Just skip them. I mean, come on, of course all my runs are fake. I can't run 120mph without nitrous. And I'm sure you will say my 133mph runs with nitrous were using some hidden flux capacitor. I have pretty much backtracked on my mods to go back down to 108 mph traps. I am pretty much showing you step by step what it takes to get my car from the 107mph to 120mph to 130 mph traps. Even if you don't find it informative or interesting, there are some other members on this forum that would like to learn without your childish disruptions.

Here I took a video for you tonight of a 118.4 mph run (the slowest on this same map), showing the run, the Vbox display, and the full interior of the car intact




I also took a video of the 2 gauges side by side for you..




Now...do you have any other silly questions? I always back up my claims with time slips, videos, vbox, photos....anything else you need to pacify your doubts???
Hotrod, I never said you didn't run any of those times. I can see that you did. All I am saying is you keep saying that it only took 12 PSI to run 120MPH on map 9. Its not that you didn't run that time its that the boost you ran must be 15+ PSI. Every time you post a great time, you also post that you did it doing something less than anyone else. I guess it makes you sleep better at night.
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hotrod, why don't you get in contact with Shiv and get a hold of the Procede harness to do some data-logging like he did with the JB3. You'll will get the correct Boost through its CANbus integration, as well as other perimeters.
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It's just odd that every other person that uses map 9 runs 2-3 more lbs of boost than your AKA "Factory Freak"
108Mph with downpipes and DCI..doesn't sound that outrageous to me
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What map were you in when you ran the 12.4 @ 118mph on stock trim?
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You can't be serious, do you honestly believe map 9 is 12psi? Tray like 17-18. Map 8 is 16-17ish. Map 7 is 14.5-15.5ish
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You can't be serious, do you honestly believe map 9 is 12psi? Tray like 17-18. Map 8 is 16-17ish. Map 7 is 14.5-15.5ish
he is serious. This is the internet, its serious business.
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What map were you in when you ran the 12.4 @ 118mph on stock trim?
All my recent testing has been on map#9, 91 oct+meth.

Just finished some more testing tonight:
0-60 in 4.1 seconds again.
I also got 118.4 mph twice. (9mph direct cross wind)

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You can't be serious, do you honestly believe map 9 is 12psi? Tray like 17-18. Map 8 is 16-17ish. Map 7 is 14.5-15.5ish
Well, like I said, I think the analog will read up to 1.5 psi higher in the upper ranges, so that would put avg full throttle boost around 13.5-14.5 psi. I decided to disconnect the boost gauge and connect the laptop per Terry's recommendation. Up to about 120mph, I believe the average boost is only 14.5-15.5 psi. So I am not sure about people saying 17-18 psi. Are you talking about right after the shifts, and the resultant boost spikes before the throttle body, or are you talking about the middle of 3rd gear sustained boost during a full throttle pull?
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All my recent testing has been on map#9, 91 oct+meth.

Just finished some more testing tonight:
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I also got 118.4 mph twice. (9mph direct cross wind)



Well, like I said, I think the analog will read up to 1.5 psi higher in the upper ranges, so that would put avg full throttle boost around 13.5-14.5 psi. I decided to disconnect the boost gauge and connect the laptop per Terry's recommendation. Up to about 120mph, I believe the average boost is only 14.5-15.5 psi. So I am not sure about people saying 17-18 psi. Are you talking about right after the shifts, and the resultant boost spikes before the throttle body, or are you talking about the middle of 3rd gear sustained boost during a full throttle pull?

yes he is talking about sustained boost during a pull
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While you're at it. You should do a run without Meth and Nitrous on runflats and full weight and maybe Map 7. Alot of ppl still dont have Meth and Nitrous and just regular bolt ons.
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I don't think anyone is knocking your runs as the VBOX is extremely accurate. The problem is that your 1st post states your running around 12-13 psi when you are really running 14.5-15.5 psi.

Regardless, great times!
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I don't think anyone is knocking your runs as the VBOX is extremely accurate. The problem is that your 1st post states your running around 12-13 psi when you are really running 14.5-15.5 psi.

Regardless, great times!
based on the map he is running he should actually be much above that.

hotrod did you make map 8 or 9 a custom map where you lowered the boost?
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