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      11-23-2011, 12:40 PM   #199
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Yea I would really love to see Cobb's stuff in there as its pretty much empty. I really want to compare them and the JB
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...on a side note, any personal feedback on the Cobb access port?
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      11-23-2011, 01:38 PM   #200
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On another side note, anything on the Split Second Turbo Tuner 2? Their claim is like 50-60 hp and ft lb increase with boost increases adjustable from +2 to +4 psi. And, for some reason, they sell the same model to both N54 and N55 owners, which seems kind of unique in the piggyback market.
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I love my AP. There is nothing better than simply plugging it in and uninstalling before BMW service. Plus they have Stage 2 and Stage 2+ maps available. Stage 1+ FMIC is coming soon. I really love this tune. I've posted my dynos on the dyno sticky. I haven't dyo'd with Stage 2+ and my DP yet though. The maps grow as your mods grow. My only issue now is meth. I want to run meth but until ATR is released there are no meth maps. Once ATR is released you will have to have a Cobb dealer/tuner to go to and custom tune your car for meth. (I think this is how it's going to work). Look at thier history in the EVO and STI world. Very long solid history on those platforms. Honestly all 4 of the major tunes are great in their own way. I have not had any of the others so I don't personally know. Plenty of people rave about all 4, GIAC, Cobb, JB and Procede though.
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      11-23-2011, 03:50 PM   #202
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This chart is definitely a bit outdated
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      11-26-2011, 10:13 PM   #203
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I love my AP. There is nothing better than simply plugging it in and uninstalling before BMW service. Plus they have Stage 2 and Stage 2+ maps available. Stage 1+ FMIC is coming soon. I really love this tune. I've posted my dynos on the dyno sticky. I haven't dyo'd with Stage 2+ and my DP yet though. The maps grow as your mods grow. My only issue now is meth. I want to run meth but until ATR is released there are no meth maps. Once ATR is released you will have to have a Cobb dealer/tuner to go to and custom tune your car for meth. (I think this is how it's going to work). Look at thier history in the EVO and STI world. Very long solid history on those platforms. Honestly all 4 of the major tunes are great in their own way. I have not had any of the others so I don't personally know. Plenty of people rave about all 4, GIAC, Cobb, JB and Procede though.
awesome... thanks for the feedback. i just ordered one.
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      11-27-2011, 04:20 PM   #204
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i say someone updates this chart..
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      11-29-2011, 02:06 PM   #205
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DCT with JB4

How did DCT behaves with JB4? Does it feel different than stock?

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JB4 93 octane map2 all else is factory stock.
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      12-22-2011, 06:45 AM   #206
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How did DCT behaves with JB4? Does it feel different than stock?
Seems fine....For the dyno runs I blocked the WOT kickdown switch, like it so left it that way.
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just FYI - i have a Cobb AP for sale for $750 if anyone is interested.

sold my 335 for a 2012 Ram Sport....
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Can you specify whether the hp is bhp or whp.
Now, I am not knocking Dinan's tune however I beg to differ regarding the Dinan gains, even Dinan stage 2 at maximum power is only a gain of 54 bhp and 49 whp using Dinan's #'s.
You need to remember when looking at Dinan's peak power of 384hp that they started at 330hp so 384-330=54hp gain.
And the money back warranty on the tune according to my dealer was 72 hrs.
I have dinan stage 2...I have a 2011 335is and with this car its 384hp 415ft lb of torque...for me from stock thats

64hp over stock

83ft lb of tq over stock

for regular 335i owners its

378hp (78hp over stock)

415ft lb of torque (115 ft lb of torque over stock)

So I am really confused on what you are talking about.
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Ya know, I was perfectly happy with my Dinan Stage 2, then came across this thread and am thinking again about a better tune. And how much I spent on the %$#@! Dinan tune!! Augh!
Don't worry man, I did the same thing and have the same feeling now...just remember when something goes wrong with one of the other tuning and a turbo blows, or anything for that matter and the (its not our fault or let me get back to you on that) happens, we don't have to worry, we can drop our cars off and it gets fixed for free...that is why I bought the dinan stage 2, plus the torque increase is amazing!
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UPDATED!

So here it is guys and girls... This is a comparison chart to compare the popular tunes out for the n54 engine. For those of you that are ready to buy a tune for your vehicle (BMW 135, 335, 535, X635i, Z435i), this comparison chart will help you narrow down to the tune of your choice. The chart is in .PDF format so you can go to links associated with the text. This chart goes in detail and defines all the properties of these tunes. On the second page, you will find a breakdown on the features that the JB4 and PROcede v5 have. Both camps have contributed to this chart as well as reviewed it for accuracy.

I'll be collecting new data as time goes by and tuners come up with more features and improvements to implement to their respective tunes. The chart will be updated accordingly. That said the features listed in the chart are what is currently available in the market.


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Anything aftermarket can void your warranty. Read your new vehicle warranty carefully before deciding to start upgrading your vehicle.
You are protected under the Magnusson Moss Warranty act which states that a dealer must prove that a specific modification is causing an issue before refusing warranty service. This means that they cannot outright void the warranty because you have an aftermarket mod but must prove that for instance a blow off valve is causing engine problems.
Excellent comparison chart. Very helpful.
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      01-10-2012, 06:28 PM   #211
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just FYI - i have a Cobb AP for sale for $750 if anyone is interested.

sold my 335 for a 2012 Ram Sport....
Hey, I assume this is gone already? I would PM but apparently since i haven't posted 5 posts it won't let me.
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Hey, I assume this is gone already? I would PM but apparently since i haven't posted 5 posts it won't let me.
So post 5 posts haha.
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ok i don't know if this the chart is accurate.updated...

but with a jb4 and completely stock car, what gains can I see? I'm simply looking for a tune, and nothing else. Simplicity is what I want, nothing complicated.
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So the stuff for COBB... it's blank on purpose?

I don't understand... it's a secret?
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Originally Posted by AltecBX View Post
UPDATED!

So here it is guys and girls... This is a comparison chart to compare the popular tunes out for the n54 engine. For those of you that are ready to buy a tune for your vehicle (BMW 135, 335, 535, X635i, Z435i), this comparison chart will help you narrow down to the tune of your choice. The chart is in .PDF format so you can go to links associated with the text. This chart goes in detail and defines all the properties of these tunes. On the second page, you will find a breakdown on the features that the JB4 and PROcede v5 have. Both camps have contributed to this chart as well as reviewed it for accuracy.

I'll be collecting new data as time goes by and tuners come up with more features and improvements to implement to their respective tunes. The chart will be updated accordingly. That said the features listed in the chart are what is currently available in the market.


Disclaimer:
Anything aftermarket can void your warranty. Read your new vehicle warranty carefully before deciding to start upgrading your vehicle.
You are protected under the Magnusson Moss Warranty act which states that a dealer must prove that a specific modification is causing an issue before refusing warranty service. This means that they cannot outright void the warranty because you have an aftermarket mod but must prove that for instance a blow off valve is causing engine problems.
Why are there no power increase #'s or any other info in the chart for the COBB AP? Just wondering as I just purchased one and reading more about it.
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Just wondering as I just purchased one and reading more about it.
Probably because the COBB guys can flash and drive and are out and about!

Perhaps you could do some of work to find out the information on the chart? I may be able to edit the PDF ... if you send me the update stuff I can give it a shot. I am on the fence myself... need COBB info... but in any case this should be updated!
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Don't worry man, I did the same thing and have the same feeling now...just remember when something goes wrong with one of the other tuning and a turbo blows, or anything for that matter and the (its not our fault or let me get back to you on that) happens, we don't have to worry, we can drop our cars off and it gets fixed for free...that is why I bought the dinan stage 2, plus the torque increase is amazing!
I've been shopping ,comparing , studying charts for my '11 335is and all I have to do is screw up one map, get too ambitious and BOOM. I'll pay for the Dinan stage 2 and not worry. I'm not a track guy just an old Sunday afternoon cruiser,(ha)
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I've been shopping ,comparing , studying charts for my '11 335is and all I have to do is screw up one map, get too ambitious and BOOM. I'll pay for the Dinan stage 2 and not worry. I'm not a track guy just an old Sunday afternoon cruiser,(ha)
I would like to go to the track but am definitely more of a cruiser as well....cruiser at high speeds that is...

I love the dinan...my car feels great, the TQ is amazing...
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Hey guys, been a lit busy lately but I am working on updating the chart soon. All these camps have been working hard lately to come out with new and better features.

Stay TUNE!!
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Does anyone have experience with the decrease in miles per gallon with Dinan Stage 2 on a stock 11 335is Even if I feather foot it most of the time?

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