N54 Tune Comparison Chart (Detailed) - Page 13 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Zero.7 · 11-02-2012, 09:45 PM

Late to the game....but wow, awesome summary!!!! One of the best stickies I've ever seen.

suprchrgd · 01-17-2013, 07:48 AM

as everyone has mentioned above me...great write up

Enron Exec · 01-19-2013, 11:51 AM

Great info!

JLiusifer · 01-20-2013, 12:01 PM

My 07 335i is still under warranty. Is the Cobb Accessport my best option so I dont void my warranty? I'm assuming I can switch the car back to factory settings w/o leaving a footprint of my tuning it, right? Any recommendations would be great! Thanks

Turbo Frenetic · 01-23-2013, 07:45 AM

JB4 maps for COBB AP, anybody have?

mattsy · 01-27-2013, 04:28 PM

As a new member, this is a great writeup and very helpful!

MountainStone · 02-18-2013, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLiusifer

My 07 335i is still under warranty. Is the Cobb Accessport my best option so I dont void my warranty? I'm assuming I can switch the car back to factory settings w/o leaving a footprint of my tuning it, right? Any recommendations would be great! Thanks

New member here as well, with a new-to-me CPO. Is there any tuner that is undetectable when removed?

Dave W. · 02-19-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MountainStone

New member here as well, with a new-to-me CPO. Is there any tuner that is undetectable when removed?

Either one of the piggyback tunes, Proceed or JB4

AltecBX · 02-23-2013, 01:01 PM

Chart has been updated..
Enjoy

GabeS · 02-23-2013, 02:03 PM

Amazing sticky!really helped me in my decision making for a new tune!

decodo · 03-07-2013, 12:28 PM

Can I do the cobb stage 2 without getting the fmic?

cartier · 03-10-2013, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by decodo

Can I do the cobb stage 2 without getting the fmic?

Yes..there is a stage 2 that doesnt require fmic

dbudh001 · 03-21-2013, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartier

Yes..there is a stage 2 that doesnt require fmic

I've been looking for dynos with stage 2. Not stage 2+fmic
I have AFe stage 2 dci , and AR dps installed & after tune ( leaning toward Cobb) I'm doing the HPF Intercooler.

Curious to know what kind of power the current Cobb stage 2 ( NoT stage 2 + fmic ) is making

Only thing that worries me about the Cobb is how high the boost psi's are.. But according to COBB they are well within tolerances since its high boost in the lower RPMs and tapers as rpm gets higher

Any one else got some more insight on this ?

AltecBX · 03-21-2013, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbudh001

I've been looking for dynos with stage 2. Not stage 2+fmic
I have AFe stage 2 dci , and AR dps installed & after tune ( leaning toward Cobb) I'm doing the HPF Intercooler.

Curious to know what kind of power the current Cobb stage 2 ( NoT stage 2 + fmic ) is making

Only thing that worries me about the Cobb is how high the boost psi's are.. But according to COBB they are well within tolerances since its high boost in the lower RPMs and tapers as rpm gets higher

Any one else got some more insight on this ?

You'll probably be making 380-390hp on Stage 2 aggressive if you use 93 octane.

dbudh001 · 03-21-2013, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AltecBX

You'll probably be making 380-390hp on Stage 2 aggressive if you use 93 octane.

whp? on stock intercooler?
thats quite impressive if thats tru

AltecBX · 03-21-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dbudh001

whp? on stock intercooler?
thats quite impressive if thats tru

Ohh. I thought you had the HPF FMIC. Then you should be around 370-375 Agressive map Stage 2 on 93 oct. Every car varies depending on temp, plugs, valves, weight, etc..

dbudh001 · 03-21-2013, 01:09 PM

Thank you that's what i wanted to know - those r decent enough numbers - it's funny to not be able to find a dyno run with stage 2 aggressive only posted , stage 2+ are a dime a dozen,

Cobb seems like the way to go - usability , maps , years of work with turbo cars , and best of all the pro tunes

On the flip side,
Still yet to see a car running Cobb beat a JB4 running similar mods/map ... Or even a M3 at that.

Someone should post a vid for me :-)
You Tube sure as hell sucked when it came to finding one with Cobb coming out on top

AltecBX · 03-21-2013, 01:18 PM

Most tunes have maps for your hardware setup.

Cobb does have ATR which you can access your tables and tailor them towards the cars behavior by logging with the AP.

There are many Cobb users who are pushing high HP but not many of them have videos. If you search the internet, you'll find them.

WLF · 04-11-2013, 05:18 AM

Procede and JB4 look really similar until the addition of the upgraded turbos.
After the addition of upgraded turbos, procede produces a lot more power.
why is that?

will.u · 04-19-2013, 12:47 PM

agreed!

will.u · 04-19-2013, 12:49 PM

Thank, awesome post!

AltecBX · 04-19-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micta_7

Procede and JB4 look really similar until the addition of the upgraded turbos.
After the addition of upgraded turbos, procede produces a lot more power.
why is that?

In my next revision to the chart it will reflect what turbos are producing what power with each tune!

11-02-2012, 09:45 PM	#265
Zero.7 Colonel Drives: e90 335i Msprt Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: SOC Posts: 2,247 iTrader: (6)	Late to the game....but wow, awesome summary!!!! One of the best stickies I've ever seen. __________________ '09 e90 AW 335i M-sport 6-speed Manual BMW PPK 1 with performance gloss black grilles ZMP, ZPP, ZCW, iDrive, CA, Logic 7

03-07-2013, 12:28 PM	#275
decodo New Member Drives: E93 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: london ontario Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	Cobb stage 2 without FMIC Can I do the cobb stage 2 without getting the fmic?

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01-17-2013, 07:48 AM	#266
suprchrgd New Member Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Noblesville, IN Posts: 16 iTrader: (0)	as everyone has mentioned above me...great write up

01-19-2013, 11:51 AM	#267
Enron Exec Registered Drives: TT350Z 550i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Houston Posts: 3 iTrader: (0)	Great info!

01-20-2013, 12:01 PM	#268
JLiusifer New Member Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 17 iTrader: (0)	My 07 335i is still under warranty. Is the Cobb Accessport my best option so I dont void my warranty? I'm assuming I can switch the car back to factory settings w/o leaving a footprint of my tuning it, right? Any recommendations would be great! Thanks

01-23-2013, 07:45 AM	#269
Turbo Frenetic Enlisted Member Drives: 335i, 2008 E92 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Moscow Posts: 44 iTrader: (1)	JB4 maps for COBB AP, anybody have?

01-27-2013, 04:28 PM	#270
mattsy New Member Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Hudson, MA Posts: 10 iTrader: (1)	As a new member, this is a great writeup and very helpful!

02-23-2013, 01:01 PM	#273
AltecBX Colonel Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,635 iTrader: (0)	Chart has been updated.. Enjoy

02-23-2013, 02:03 PM	#274
GabeS Enlisted Member Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 41 iTrader: (0)	Amazing sticky!really helped me in my decision making for a new tune!

03-21-2013, 01:09 PM	#281
dbudh001 Private First Class Drives: 2007 bmw 3351 Join Date: May 2010 Location: miami Posts: 172 iTrader: (1)	Thank you that's what i wanted to know - those r decent enough numbers - it's funny to not be able to find a dyno run with stage 2 aggressive only posted , stage 2+ are a dime a dozen, Cobb seems like the way to go - usability , maps , years of work with turbo cars , and best of all the pro tunes On the flip side, Still yet to see a car running Cobb beat a JB4 running similar mods/map ... Or even a M3 at that. Someone should post a vid for me :-) You Tube sure as hell sucked when it came to finding one with Cobb coming out on top

03-21-2013, 01:18 PM	#282
AltecBX Colonel Drives: BMW 335xi Sedan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 2,635 iTrader: (0)	Most tunes have maps for your hardware setup. Cobb does have ATR which you can access your tables and tailor them towards the cars behavior by logging with the AP. There are many Cobb users who are pushing high HP but not many of them have videos. If you search the internet, you'll find them.

04-11-2013, 05:18 AM	#283
WLF Private First Class Drives: n54 e92 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 140 iTrader: (0)	Procede and JB4 look really similar until the addition of the upgraded turbos. After the addition of upgraded turbos, procede produces a lot more power. why is that?

04-19-2013, 12:47 PM	#284
will.u New Member Drives: 2009 BMW 335i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: CA Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	agreed!

04-19-2013, 12:49 PM	#285
will.u New Member Drives: 2009 BMW 335i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: CA Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	Thank, awesome post!