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      04-14-2010, 08:39 AM   #23
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No love for the JB3 Pin-Out With more and more cars coming out of warranty the Pin-Out is definitely attracting more attention and providing an unbelievable price point!

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Trying to compare both products that support PNP.

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Great job Altec!
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      04-14-2010, 08:40 AM   #24
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Great job. I had no idea that you could get the GIAC flash for about the same price as the older piggyback units. I am scheduling the GIAC tune today.
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As I said on another forum...Superb job.
It's nice that people actually care about others in the community and this took a good portion of your time.

There's only one thing that I noticed though.
The hp numbers for the Dinan flash seem high for the stage 1.
Those numbers correlate more with their stage 3 program.

Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi.
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Great chart Altec!

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Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi.
Little correction it's 13.7 as he said. My car had 0 mods except the S1 REV2 last year and I've never seen more then 13.7.
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Very nice job!
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be prepared to edit that list often! New features come out every other week
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As I said on another forum...Superb job.
It's nice that people actually care about others in the community and this took a good portion of your time.

There's only one thing that I noticed though.
The hp numbers for the Dinan flash seem high for the stage 1.
Those numbers correlate more with their stage 3 program.

Also, GIAC's peak boost is correct with full mods running stage 1 but normal stage 1 boost is around 15 psi.
Thanks. The Dinan #'s are off there website as well. They do require you to have a Free Flow Exhaust.

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be prepared to edit that list often! New features come out every other week
I'll definitely be updated it.
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Thanks. The Dinan #'s are off there website as well. They do require you to have a Free Flow Exhaust.



I'll definitely be updated it.
All of Dinan's numbers are crank hp though--not wheel.
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      04-14-2010, 10:00 AM   #31
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All of Dinan's numbers are crank hp though--not wheel.
+1 Thats an important distinction as I believe only BMW and Dinan advertise like that while all other tuners advertise actual wheel HP gains/numbers.

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All of Dinan's numbers are crank hp though--not wheel.
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Altec, under "user adjustable parameters" you should make a note about the bog/lagfix stuff for the procede column. The reason it's no longer implemented is because it isn't necessary since there is no bog/lag to fix. It's a bit misleading
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      04-14-2010, 10:25 AM   #34
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Dinan requires intercooler upgrade for Stage 3, not Stage 1 or Stage 2.
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      04-14-2010, 10:27 AM   #35
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Hi AltecBX,

Great job on putting this together ... I know you were getting a lot of flack for asking all those questions, I'm glad you stuck to it and got this version completed.

I think many on the forums will appreciate this (even if they don't say so).

Junk

PS. I'm sure there will be minor tweaks and corrections in the next few days ... other posters, please be considerate in how your phase those corrections!!


Damn fine piece of work there -- my hats off to you for your persistence

even though i dont use a tune its a great reference when looking into one

thanks Altec
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      04-14-2010, 01:23 PM   #36
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Great info!!

Thank you very much for doing that
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Super cool. Can't wait to forward the .pdf to my non-e90post friends.
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      04-14-2010, 02:47 PM   #38
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Nice work on this comparison, it's cool to review all the various features of each tune!

Glad it's a sticky.
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      04-14-2010, 03:09 PM   #39
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impressive, good work man
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wow.

Really nicely done!!

I thought it would end up being just marketing fluff but you managed to put all the good bits of info in a nice format.

Well done man.
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Isn't Formers nitrous dyno on a mustang dyno? On a dynojet he would've made way more than 498whp.
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Congratulations on getting this done, especially considering all the crap spewed your way. This is really helpful.
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I tried sending a PM to the OP about two apparent errors:

From GIAC web site:
GIAC performance software for the 2010 - 2007 E9x 335 smoothly delivers a 40 - 80 hp and 60 - 90 ft-lbs gain.

The OP reports gains of 40-50 hp and 50-60 tq which are wrong...
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