E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > New v4 4-15 beta maps now publicly available



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-23-2010, 11:29 AM   #1
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

Exclamation New v4 4-15 beta maps now publicly available

Previously only available to private beta testers.....

Posted HERE!

Lots of new stuff:

-CANclear functionality
-More Intuitive User Torque Scaling
-Progressive methanol mapping
-Nitrous Control
-6AT Launch control
-Auto-Tune logging parameter

This also means a lot of documentation to read. If you don't want to do this or are a complete n00b to the wonderful world of Procede tuning (we were all there sometime!), stick with the 2-23 maps/firmware which are now non-Beta.

There is nothing wrong with waiting a bit until Auto-Tuning is fully functional. When it is, all you need to do is activate the feature and simply do a few 3rd gear runs and let the Procede dial everything in. So don't feel pressured to jump the gun. Unless you are already running methanol and need progressive meth mapping, of course.

Shiv
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 11:36 AM   #2
Panoz
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Panoz's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 Space Grey 335i ,Aero Kit
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: EU

Posts: 1,576
iTrader: (0)

Nice...
I'd like to ask if the "auto-tunning feature" expected to auto adjust the Ign Advance cor. only or other tune parameters as well , in order to know if I should get excited or not.
If you dont want to share specific info yet , a "yes" or "no" will just do.
__________________

Procede V4 , Catless DPs, Forge FMIC, Injen Intake, VK Oilcooler, Hartge Quads Exhaust, Modded CDV, Synapse BOV Kit, BMW Performance 335i SSK Kit, P3 vent boost gauge

Space Grey 335i -> See more pics HERE
Panoz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 11:39 AM   #3
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panoz View Post
Nice...
I'd like to ask if the "auto-tunning feature" expected to auto adjust the Ign Advance cor. only or other tune parameters as well , in order to know if I should get excited or not.
If you dont want to share specific info yet , a "yes" or "no" will just do.
It will adjust both Ignition Correction and User Torque. And eventually even dial in boost control gain (future use 2).
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 12:00 PM   #4
Panoz
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Panoz's Avatar
 
Drives: E92 Space Grey 335i ,Aero Kit
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: EU

Posts: 1,576
iTrader: (0)

Thank you Shiv...I was hopping that there would be fuel/AFR adjustments as well.
Don't you think that we could extract more power by custom-tunning this through auto-tune feature"?
__________________

Procede V4 , Catless DPs, Forge FMIC, Injen Intake, VK Oilcooler, Hartge Quads Exhaust, Modded CDV, Synapse BOV Kit, BMW Performance 335i SSK Kit, P3 vent boost gauge

Space Grey 335i -> See more pics HERE
Panoz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 12:03 PM   #5
forza1976
Brigadier General
 
forza1976's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 A6
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Denver CO

Posts: 4,529
iTrader: (11)

Garage List
2014 Audi A6  [5.00]
Nice Shiv, I imagine this is going to make a lot of the non-beta folks very happy!

These are good maps!
forza1976 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 12:03 PM   #6
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Panoz View Post
Thank you Shiv...I was hopping that there would be fuel/AFR adjustments as well.
Don't you think that we could extract more power by custom-tunning this through auto-tune feature"?
AFR targets are closed loop. So there is, in a sense, auto-tuning. But that is done by the DME, not the Procede.

The auto-tuning feature will work better than any amount of manual custom tuning.

Shiv
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 01:27 PM   #7
Chefcg1
Major
 
Chefcg1's Avatar
 
Drives: 2008 BMW 335i
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Mount Airy, NC

Posts: 1,087
iTrader: (6)

are these public maps different from the beta tester 4/15 maps?
__________________
2008 335i coupe AW 6AT, RB Turbos, PROcede 2.5 V5, Alpina Flash, Injen Intake, VK MW DP . Helix IC, Vishnu PnP Meth(M10 nozzel), M3 sides, OEM Aero Lip, VMR V710 Midnight Blue, LUX H8, HID Fogs, M3 front bits, D2 Copilovers, Whiteline Rear Bushing inserts, Custom M3 Steering Wheel, Cyba scoops, M2 Performance Exhaust
Chefcg1 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 01:35 PM   #8
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chefcg1 View Post
are these public maps different from the beta tester 4/15 maps?
Nope. Exactly the same as the 4-15 maps I sent to you guys last week.

Shiv
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 02:40 PM   #9
prich2004
Private First Class
 
prich2004's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston

Posts: 124
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 E90 335i  [0.00]
I can't wait to try this out! Too bad I have to address my misfire on cyln. 6 on cold startups first...no biggie.

I know the info is probably out there and scattered all over the place, but here is a list of the parameters we should be looking at for this new release. Can anyone tell me what Debug Byte 1 is?

Debug Word 5 -- DME boost target
Debug Word 6 -- DME suction pipe pressure (that's what she said)
Debug Byte 4 -- Learning Value?
Debug Byte 1 -- ??
Debug Byte 6 -- Tune Aggression

Shiv, you should update your sig since auto-tuning has officially been released! Just sayin...
__________________
E90 335i | Metallic Graphite | AT Step | Sport | Premium | Satellite | iPod | Ceramic Tint | PROcede V4 | BMS DCI
prich2004 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 03:01 PM   #10
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by prich2004 View Post
I can't wait to try this out! Too bad I have to address my misfire on cyln. 6 on cold startups first...no biggie.

I know the info is probably out there and scattered all over the place, but here is a list of the parameters we should be looking at for this new release. Can anyone tell me what Debug Byte 1 is?

Debug Word 5 -- DME boost target
Debug Word 6 -- DME suction pipe pressure (that's what she said)
Debug Byte 4 -- Learning Value?
Debug Byte 1 -- ??
Debug Byte 6 -- Tune Aggression

Shiv, you should update your sig since auto-tuning has officially been released! Just sayin...
All those debug values are currently defined/labeled if you drop the datalog setup files into your procede folder

shiv
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 03:16 PM   #11
prich2004
Private First Class
 
prich2004's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Houston

Posts: 124
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 E90 335i  [0.00]
Doh! Haven't gotten that far yet!! Damn work.... :-/
__________________
E90 335i | Metallic Graphite | AT Step | Sport | Premium | Satellite | iPod | Ceramic Tint | PROcede V4 | BMS DCI
prich2004 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 03:41 PM   #12
Funkmob
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 335i E92 space grey
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Belgium

Posts: 306
iTrader: (0)

These maps are good , i feel that part throtlle cruise has improved on my car.

Do we really have to wait with trying out the launch control?
Funkmob is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 04:24 PM   #13
WOPALX
Lieutenant Colonel
 
WOPALX's Avatar
 
Drives: 335i Sedan
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney, Australia

Posts: 1,993
iTrader: (2)

Shiv I've been really slow to update, can you point me to the link please for the latest version of the Reader software please that is suitable for these maps.

Thanks in advance.
WOPALX is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 04:28 PM   #14
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WOPALX View Post
Shiv I've been really slow to update, can you point me to the link please for the latest version of the Reader software please that is suitable for these maps.

Thanks in advance.
Sure. Just read the info this link. Posted above as well.
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 04:43 PM   #15
cn555ic
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
cn555ic's Avatar
 
Drives: Bimmerscoding.com
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York

Posts: 18,275
iTrader: (5)

Send a message via Yahoo to cn555ic
I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!! Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!
cn555ic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 05:02 PM   #16
integlspwr
Private
 
Drives: Honda S2000
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Honolulu, HI

Posts: 92
iTrader: (4)

i luv how shiv drops it in time for the week end. =)
integlspwr is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 05:08 PM   #17
themyst
Major General
 
themyst's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i LCI
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC

Posts: 6,602
iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to themyst
Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!! Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!
As per vishnutuning.com:

On the other hand, if this value is only in the 0-1 range during most conditions, then your tune is too conservative and you are sacrificing a bit of power. Of course, nothing is wrong with this. But making the tune more aggressive (increasing UT or dropping IC) will raise this value to the "sweet spot" of 2-3, resulting in more repeatable and safe power.

I think you could go slightly more aggressive based on this statement.
__________________
E90 LCI N54 6AT
themyst is offline   South Korea
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 05:11 PM   #18
shyestsparks
Captain
 
Drives: 335i sedan, 02 Altima VQ35DE-T
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Ca

Posts: 827
iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
I logged my tune aggressiveness and its nice, right at the sweet spot .02!!! Ready for the autotune Shiv....Car is loving the extra meth with the larger M7 nozzle compared to my M5 nozzle that I was using for a while!
You meant 2.0 right? I thought Shiv is now running an M10 nozzle now? I'm happy for you man; now if we could have that N2O wiring diagram from Shiv, then we'll be golden.
shyestsparks is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 05:18 PM   #19
themyst
Major General
 
themyst's Avatar
 
Drives: E90 335i LCI
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC

Posts: 6,602
iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to themyst
Quote:
Originally Posted by shyestsparks View Post
You meant 2.0 right? I thought Shiv is now running an M10 nozzle now? I'm happy for you man; now if we could have that N2O wiring diagram from Shiv, then we'll be golden.
If that's what he meant, then forget my last statement!
__________________
E90 LCI N54 6AT
themyst is offline   South Korea
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 06:06 PM   #20
cn555ic
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
cn555ic's Avatar
 
Drives: Bimmerscoding.com
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York

Posts: 18,275
iTrader: (5)

Send a message via Yahoo to cn555ic
Quote:
Originally Posted by shyestsparks View Post
You meant 2.0 right? I thought Shiv is now running an M10 nozzle now? I'm happy for you man; now if we could have that N2O wiring diagram from Shiv, then we'll be golden.
Hmm no my channel properties must be off because I am loggin .2!!! Whats the channel input properties for debug byte 6....Can someone post it up for me...I dunno why its like this..
cn555ic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 06:09 PM   #21
shiv@vishnu
Tuner
 
Drives: X1, 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SF Bay, CA

Posts: 17,616
iTrader: (0)

It can be 0.2. It can even go as low as 0 if there is a complete absense of ignition retard. Just make sure you see it moving around a bit. If it's stuck at one value, then you probably set up the datalog channels wrong. Or didn't drop the latest datalog set-up files into your procede folder.

The set up info:
Attached Images
 
shiv@vishnu is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      04-23-2010, 06:46 PM   #22
cn555ic
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
cn555ic's Avatar
 
Drives: Bimmerscoding.com
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York

Posts: 18,275
iTrader: (5)

Send a message via Yahoo to cn555ic
Thanks Shiv...I thought I was bugging out!! I have the right properties, so its definitely workingn for sure the values do move! The car is running really strong...Cant wait till you activate the auto-tune and the launch control!
cn555ic is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:54 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST