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      08-29-2005, 04:14 PM   #45
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WTF, i didnt say that because its a auto its slow.
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      08-30-2005, 12:31 AM   #46
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nice i liked that all my friends are like your car isent fast my car is so fast for me and i can handel it so much better then there lil 14.000 car
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Is this actually written in english? Seriously?
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Is this actually written in english? Seriously?
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      08-30-2005, 01:42 AM   #48
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      08-30-2005, 10:59 AM   #49
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here are the scans
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2161181&page=4
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      08-30-2005, 12:46 PM   #50
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Anyone else think the IS looks a little reminiscent of a Mazda 3 from the front 3/4 angle?

I love how so many people in that link are all anti-BMW, heh.
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Anybody feel like doing a little reading? These are the scans from vwvortex
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If I'm correct....between 1st and 2nd place is a difference of 1 point. Hmmmmm...... that's not something to brag about.....
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      08-30-2005, 02:31 PM   #55
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thanks Jason.

Natureboy I agree, but a win is a win right?

I was thinking of getting a IS350 before I ordered my 330, but with no manual there was no way I was buying one. I saw it at the NYC auto show and it is a very nice looking car in person.
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Give us the 335i. Soon.

And then the diesels to take over that market segment.
And a light, efficient, diesel powered van-thing.
And more engine choices for the Touring.

Now we lay us down to rest.
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THANKS GUYS!!!

cant wait to read...i love comparo tests, especially about cars i am considering. this is great toilet reading/honey i dont want to talk i want to read in bed!!!
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Inspite of not being the fastest and best braking, plus all the electrical malfunctions of a brand new car, the BMW 330 still managed to blow their minds...


well done my friend, well done


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quote from the scans webpage
"So, let me understand this...
The BMW...
1-suffered ABS brake failure
2-had trouble starting
3-had "fritzing electrics", and
4-the A/C struggled to keep the car cool.

Yet, it still won the comparison.

BMW rightfully deserves commendation for their brilliant ride/handling compromise. It still remains the most communicative driver's car. But why are the problems, listed above, tolerated in a Brand New Car?"

this is kind of what scares me...but seriosuly how did it win 1st place? that is kinda scary, however, i still have no clue how much truth there is to that, i have not read the article yet...
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but seriosuly how did it win 1st place? that is kinda scary, however, i still have no clue how much truth there is to that, i have not read the article yet...
By 1 point!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minarets
quote from the scans webpage
"So, let me understand this...
The BMW...
1-suffered ABS brake failure
2-had trouble starting
3-had "fritzing electrics", and
4-the A/C struggled to keep the car cool.

Yet, it still won the comparison.

BMW rightfully deserves commendation for their brilliant ride/handling compromise. It still remains the most communicative driver's car. But why are the problems, listed above, tolerated in a Brand New Car?"

this is kind of what scares me...but seriosuly how did it win 1st place? that is kinda scary, however, i still have no clue how much truth there is to that, i have not read the article yet...
That is exactly what puzzles me. Four obvious problems with the NEW vehicle and yet it still wins the comparison. I wander if BMW in the face of declining sales is paying something on the side to C&D.
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      08-30-2005, 04:58 PM   #62
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That is exactly what puzzles me. Four obvious problems with the NEW vehicle and yet it still wins the comparison. I wander if BMW in the face of declining sales is paying something on the side to C&D.
It wouldn't be fair either to dock points from that particular E90 because it had problems. Afterall, this is a comparison of the performance aspect of these vehicles, not reliability.
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Give us the 335i. Soon.

And then the diesels to take over that market segment.
And a light, efficient, diesel powered van-thing.
And more engine choices for the Touring.

Now we lay us down to rest.
Give us 50mpg thats what we all need right now.
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      08-30-2005, 05:06 PM   #64
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One missing category in the test

C&D should include "Initial Quality" category in the comparison test. If so, BMW 330i should gotten 0 for their list of problems and it should been out of the first place. For a over $40K brand new, these problems are totally unforgivable! No excuse and no 'but-the-BMW-still-handles-best' BS crap.

Let's face it. For average car buyers, the initial and long-term quality factor is one of the most important factor in deciding a car.

How 330i still managed to win first despite all the problems? C&D editors are full of crap and I'm sure they picked 330i as first place even before the test began. They probably still gave 330i first place even if it caught on fire...

Their recent comparison test between 400hp Pontiac GTO vs. 300hp Mustang revealed to the entire world how stupid their rating system is. Despite GTO won over Mustang in every performance and most non-performance category, they still gave Mustang 25 perfect score for "Got-A-Have-It" factor while giving GTO only 18. The final score of 211 vs. 210 gave 1st plae to Mustang. Reason? Well, they already picked the Mustang in their Top 10 Cars of Year, so they HAD TO pick it over GTO. It was comparison test between two full-blooded sport cars and Mustang still won after losing all performance category.....Never seen so much BS.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=8908

IS350's 5.1 sec vs. 330i's 6.0 sec is night-and-day difference. I knew IS350 would be fast but not this fast! Its 13.7sec @104mph puts it in the real sport car category.

To me, this C&D test means absolutely nothing. If you guys want to blag about 330i's win by 1 point, that's pretty sad.

IS350's 306 hp is only 4% less than the mighty Supra TT's 320 hp without using any turbo or supercharger! With Luxus' proven reliability, that is really something. And its 5.1 sec is equal or even better than Supra TT with auto. Amazing.

I'm not too crazy about IS's new style, but I'm not too crazy about 330i new styling either. If IS handles even 90% close to the BMW, it will be my next car for sure.
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guys...when i try printing the scans they dont print out the complete page....

anyone help on resizing them?

i.e. the first page wont print/fit on one page











Buhler?..................Buhler?.........anyone?

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funny thing guys....if you add up the points, Lexus and BMW actually both have 212 points.

a TIE!!!!
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