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      05-11-2010, 11:20 PM   #1
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Decided on Dinan over Procede/JB3 -- childish to want the badge?

Preface -- A year ago when I first bought my car, I was sold on Dinan, but ultimately decided to put 15k miles / 1 year on it before I modded it at all. However, after I saw the crazy gains in JB3/Procede and near undetectability, I briefly decided to go back that route (and even emailed with Robert/Shiv from Vishnu and Terry from BMS -- very nice people with solid products). But during the 3 weeks of waiting for Procede to not be on back order, I read every post related to Dinan and realized that I wanted the comfort of having a product backed by a warranty without dealing with installing/uninstalling the product repeatedly -- that's why I decided on Dinan definitively. I have an appointment for Stage 2 on Thursday morning.

Question -- Is it childish to want the badge to go along with it? I plan on doing the cold air intake, stage 2, and the pedals, which would give me 6 points. I'm trying to decide if it's worth spending another 4k on 20 bHP/Stage 3 or another 2k on a better Dinan suspension to get to 10-11 points to get the badge while I still have the 20% off sale to work with. Anyone think this is temporary insanity that I should ignore?
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4000 just to get the badge is insane are you sure you dont want the procede
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Good Decision. I'm going with the S2-signature package.(S3 software, FMIC, OC, Exhaust, S3 suspension, etc) alot of maney tho. I'm planning on keeping my car for a long time. so no worries. Plus the latest CAR and Driver has an article about their M3 and S3-335i. Read it. I have a bit over 17k miles on my 07.

Good decision man. Some might not agree tho.
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I get the warranty thing.

I personally wouldn't want to be running their stage 2 flash on my car without supporting mods.
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4000 just to get the badge is insane are you sure you dont want the procede
Obviously I'd get the benefit of whatever parts it took to get there too.
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Ya but 4000 for those little bit of parts is out there
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Ya but 4000 for those little bit of parts is out there
True. The fact that I'm thinking about it probably means I make too much money and should save for the future instead. (And that I need a g/f to tell me not to do stupid stuff like this.)
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True. The fact that I'm thinking about it probably means I make too much money and should save for the future instead.
make sure you're financially ready and if you are, why not man. you live once.
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I think that Dinan is a great tune for those that can dish out the money for it. It makes for a great HP increase and uses less boost to achieve it compared to piggyback tunes. This will save the life of the turbo IMHO. The warranty backup is one of the biggest advantages going with Dinan. No worries about taking apart the ecu to remove a piggy when visiting a dealer for service. JB3/Procede will give you better performance for the money but no one knows the long term reliability. I bought my JB3 even before my car, lol and so far I have had zero problems. That was over a year ago. Cranking out another 4k is pretty steep though. You can get a hell of a lot of mods for that money like a KW V3, intercooler, DP's and a Stett,/Simota CAI. If you have a bunch of friends that constantly surround your car that you want to impress, you have better options out there.
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True. The fact that I'm thinking about it probably means I make too much money and should save for the future instead. (And that I need a g/f to tell me not to do stupid stuff like this.)
lol well make sure you enjoy it while it lasts. Once you get hitched car spending gets thrown out the window.
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lol well make sure you enjoy it while it lasts. Once you get hitched car spending gets thrown out the window.
True to that, lol.
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make sure you're financially ready and if you are, why not man. you live once.
I'd imagine getting the OC and IC would lengthen the life of the car too. I want to keep it for a long time -- I *adore* this car. I've had an '01 Honda Prelude and a '06 Infiniti G35 Coupe...I liked those cars, but I was always thinking about stepping up. I've never once thought about stepping up from my car, which is why I don't feel bad about dropping the cash on Dinan.
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I'd imagine getting the OC and IC would lengthen the life of the car too. I want to keep it for a long time -- I *adore* this car. I've had an '01 Honda Prelude and a '06 Infiniti G35 Coupe...I liked those cars, but I was always thinking about stepping up. I've never once thought about stepping up from my car, which is why I don't feel bad about dropping the cash on Dinan.
Me too man. I'm keeping it as a collection car and intend to keep it for a long time, God willing. The Program intentionally drops the boost after pretty much over 5500 or 600RPM and prolongs the life of the Engine and Turbos. It's not as fast as JB3 or PROCEDE. and these two products are becoming software programming and engineering arts with what they can do(reffering to the Piggybacks). N54 FTW.
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Can you get the extended warranty if you go Dinan?
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Can you get the extended warranty if you go Dinan?
Nope.
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Since you already have the stg 2 tune, and want to get the dinan cai (probably the best looking and best designed cai), just get the stage 1 suspension and you'll have your badge I got lucky and got the cai and stg1 suspension for the 20% percent off even though they're supposed to be excluded from the deal. And the stg1 suspension looks like th best dollar and performance value.
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sorry can you elaborate on the badge? the Dinan emblem you can not have until u achieve points i am assuming?
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10 points total
5 pts for suspension
3 pts for cai
2 pts for software
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Perhaps this would put it into perspective for you. I wouldn't run the Dinan flash on my car if it was offered to me 100% free. The Procede and JB3 are so far beyond the Dinan software in terms of performance and feeling, it's really not even a fair comparison. I had a 2007 335i for 3 years and i recently got a 2010 335i, so I'm not exactly new to the N54 tuning scene.

Back in 2006, I thought Dinan badges were THE business; now that I know better, I have a nice laugh at the sucker that got taken...
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wow never knew this.. what if the badge gets stolen? i bet that happens alot..QUOTE=mkaaes;7302360]10 points total
5 pts for suspension
2 pts for cai
2 pts for software[/quote]
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Perhaps this would put it into perspective for you. I wouldn't run the Dinan flash on my car if it was offered to me 100% free. The Procede and JB3 are so far beyond the Dinan software in terms of performance and feeling, it's really not even a fair comparison. I had a 2007 335i for 3 years and i recently got a 2010 335i, so I'm not exactly new to the N54 tuning scene.

Back in 2006, I thought Dinan badges were THE business; now that I know better, I have a nice laugh at the sucker that got taken...
Nothing beats the performance the dollar input for the JB3 and Procede products. How ever, I'd rather have Dinan over them since I don't need such performance. I personally like the Dinan company because of their R&D.

Plus if Dinan was even to compete with JB and Procede, I'm sure BMW would not have the, even shaky now, relation with Dinan.
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I'm trying to decide if it's worth spending another 4k on 20 bHP/Stage 3 or another 2k on a better Dinan suspension to get to 10-11 points to get the badge while I still have the 20% off sale to work with. Anyone think this is temporary insanity that I should ignore?
The Stage 2 suspension is great. Very similar to the BMW performance suspension but a little firmer with equal comfort (and adjustable). You could save some money buying the Stage 1 suspension from Dinan and then buy the M3 rollbar somewhere else. Do you really need a warranty on your rollbar?
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