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      05-12-2010, 12:17 PM   #45
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Yes, you can. I just checked last week.

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That's not what I was told -- at least not through Momentum BMW here in Houston. BMW of Houston North is another Dinan dealer...I can ask them too. Momentum kind of sucks anyway.
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Yes, you can. I just checked last week.

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Depends on the dealership and how cool they are with Dinan.
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Keep in mind you don't get to keep your BMW warranty when you go with the Dinan.

Wrong.

The original warranty gets replaced by Dinan's due to the fact that you modified your car.

Double wrong.

Their warranty is very limited in comparison to BMW's original bumper to bumper 50k mile warranty.

Really wrong. Do you have even a modicum of knowledge about the Dinan/BMW relationship?


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Perhaps this would put it into perspective for you. I wouldn't run the Dinan flash on my car if it was offered to me 100% free. The Procede and JB3 are so far beyond the Dinan software in terms of performance
Here's my perspective - I wouldn't put a piggyback on my car *if you paid me*. Seriously, compare the number of 'issue' threads with the piggybacks over the last 3 years vs. the Dinan tunes and get back to me.

Not to mention the little game of Russian roulette you have to play when you get your take your piggified N54 in for service, or God forbid, try to trade it in. Not having any sort of a warranty does wonders for resale.

For the OP - go the Dinan route if you have a Dinan supportive dealer. My experience is that warranty issues are absolutely transparent. And screw the badge; 'stealth' is the new badge.
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That's not what I was told -- at least not through Momentum BMW here in Houston. BMW of Houston North is another Dinan dealer...I can ask them too. Momentum kind of sucks anyway.
+ 1, I never go to Momentum anymore
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Save the money. Regardless of what your making now you income will go up/down over time. It's really nice to be flush with cash during the down times. I'd just get a M3 before I'd spend dinan 10 point money. When I see a Dinan car... I think... that guy shoulda just purchased a better car in the first place.
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BMW WILL deny any claim related to your powertrain if you have the Dinan flash. "Might" is giving anyone interest false hope.

In that case Dinan is responsible for the warranty claim which they are supposed to pay for once they battle it out with BMW. In the end nobody is going to want to pay for warranty work and the end user is going to be left out in the cold.
BMW has replaced plenty of HPFPs on Dinan-flashed cars without denying the claims. "BMW WILL deny any claim related to your powertrain" is just false.

Next you say Dinan will also refuse to pay. Maybe that has happened, but if it has it is rare.
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I'd just get a M3 before I'd spend dinan 10 point money. When I see a Dinan car... I think... that guy shoulda just purchased a better car in the first place.
I think the same thing.
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Here's my perspective - I wouldn't put a piggyback on my car *if you paid me*. Seriously, compare the number of 'issue' threads with the piggybacks over the last 3 years vs. the Dinan tunes and get back to me.

Not to mention the little game of Russian roulette you have to play when you get your take your piggified N54 in for service, or God forbid, try to trade it in. Not having any sort of a warranty does wonders for resale.
+1000

Add to that: you only have to be concerned about being "beat" by a piggybacked car if you're dumb enough to be a street racer. Or care.
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+1000

Add to that: you only have to be concerned about being "beat" by a piggybacked car if you're dumb enough to be a street racer. Or care.

Reference was to track performance. The "gearhead" mod..tuner..crowd want the extra power. That is important to some...not to others.

I fall in the category that wants to make as much power as possible. Not to brag or anything related. I simply like to measure performance ...go back to the drawing board...make more.
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ouch two bad decisions... at the very least don't get the badge. like someone else said: a dinan badge is just telling other 335's that you're an easy target
Funny you say that...

First thing I think of when I see a Dinan badge is "you paid too much" (to go slow).




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My dealer doesnt care about mods... so that whole getting piggy back tune is bothersome of the warranty crap doesnt hold water.

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#1. If your service advisor is cool, they won't even report the Dinan installation to BMW. In fact, they will avoid installing any Dinan parts while anyone is there who can cause the vehicle to become "flagged" in the system.

#2. A Dinan Stage 2 with nothing else is as fast as a JB3 1.4 on Map 5 with DCI... It's not so bad...
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Lol Pathetic huh


Threadstarter.. IDK what this emblem looks like but your crazy.

This is what I found on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DINAN...Q5fAccessories
Haha. $120. You can buy the individual letters from Bimmian for $2.80 each.

http://www.beastpower.com/p/bmw/bimm...om/BI-BE39-CBL
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#2. A Dinan Stage 2 with nothing else is as fast as a JB3 1.4 on Map 5 with DCI... It's not so bad...[/quote]

I can vouch for that lol
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I can vouch for that lol
It seems like the Dinan tune varies wildly from person to person. Your Stage 2 hits 12.8, but Car and Driver just tested a Stage 3 and only got 13.0 in the quarter (June 2010 issue). Do you have any dyno numbers before and after?
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It seems like the Dinan tune varies wildly from person to person. Your Stage 2 hits 12.8, but Car and Driver just tested a Stage 3 and only got 13.0 in the quarter (June 2010 issue). Do you have any dyno numbers before and after?
I think you missed the point...there are those of us who just flat don't care about dyno numbers or quarter-mile/lap times. In my world, that sort of stuff is usually discussed between Mustang and Camaro owners. Maybe we should add another top category here for folks who like to drag race or "track" their cars; that way, we could avoid degenerating into these kinds of back-and-forth discussions.

If you have the money, the time, and the perseverance, you can extract unbelievable amounts of power from any engine. Remember the 80's Buick Regal Grand National with the turbo 3.8 pushrod V6? I've seen articles/videos about those cars pulling 700+hp at the rear wheels, street-legal and street-driven. I bet they look at us BMW guys and laugh about us paying way too much for such slow cars.
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I think you missed the point...there are those of us who just flat don't care about dyno numbers or quarter-mile/lap times. In my world, that sort of stuff is usually discussed between Mustang and Camaro owners. Maybe we should add another top category here for folks who like to drag race or "track" their cars; that way, we could avoid degenerating into these kinds of back-and-forth discussions.

If you have the money, the time, and the perseverance, you can extract unbelievable amounts of power from any engine. Remember the 80's Buick Regal Grand National with the turbo 3.8 pushrod V6? I've seen articles/videos about those cars pulling 700+hp at the rear wheels, street-legal and street-driven. I bet they look at us BMW guys and laugh about us paying way too much for such slow cars.
I'm not looking for a 12.0 second car (though it would be nice) -- I'm looking for real world performance. My point is it seems like the power delivery with Dinan tunes varies wildly from car to car, which *is* relevant as it would factor in to real world performance.
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BMW has replaced plenty of HPFPs on Dinan-flashed cars without denying the claims. "BMW WILL deny any claim related to your powertrain" is just false.

Next you say Dinan will also refuse to pay. Maybe that has happened, but if it has it is rare.
My HPFP was replaced, no questions asked with a Dinan Stg2 on my 07 E90. Dinan, you won't be disappointed...
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My HPFP was replaced, no questions asked with a Dinan Stg2 on my 07 E90. Dinan, you won't be disappointed...
Mine was replaced to...

On my car with Jb3. And I didnt even break $600 on mods.

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I think you missed the point...there are those of us who just flat don't care about dyno numbers or quarter-mile/lap times. In my world, that sort of stuff is usually discussed between Mustang and Camaro owners. Maybe we should add another top category here for folks who like to drag race or "track" their cars; that way, we could avoid degenerating into these kinds of back-and-forth discussions.

If you have the money, the time, and the perseverance, you can extract unbelievable amounts of power from any engine. Remember the 80's Buick Regal Grand National with the turbo 3.8 pushrod V6? I've seen articles/videos about those cars pulling 700+hp at the rear wheels, street-legal and street-driven. I bet they look at us BMW guys and laugh about us paying way too much for such slow cars.

That mind set is a whole new world to me then.

If you don't care about performance. Why get a tune? Better yet, why pay (overpay) $4000 for a tune?
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