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      12-20-2011, 07:34 PM   #155
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For LCI rear lights on an E90 you need the lights, wire harnesses just like the E92 but you also need a new trunk
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      12-20-2011, 07:44 PM   #156
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For LCI rear lights on an E90 you need the lights, wire harnesses just like the E92 but you also need a new trunk
No retrofit harnesses are needed on e90 models, only e92/3
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No retrofit harnesses are needed on e90 models, only e92/3
Oops! Sorry thanks for clearing that up Tom!
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Any way you can get something to work for folks with a BT cable for the coding?
Any word about the BT Cable usage? I'm planning on doing this as my next mod, but it would be great if I could do it all in my own garage as I already have the tools to connect (pro BT cable/software).
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Any word about the BT Cable usage? I'm planning on doing this as my next mod, but it would be great if I could do it all in my own garage as I already have the tools to connect (pro BT cable/software).
BT cables are not compatible with NCS software.
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BT cables are not compatible with NCS software.
How long 'should' it take for an autologic shop to do it?
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      03-22-2012, 12:19 PM   #161
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How long 'should' it take for an autologic shop to do it?
No longer than 15 minutes. There is a retrofit path ready within the system now.
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No longer than 15 minutes. There is a retrofit path ready within the system now.
Good to know. Autologic gave me info for a shop close to me, so now I know if they say I have to 'leave it for the day' something would be fishy (my car has a lot of power mods).
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      03-22-2012, 12:32 PM   #163
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Good to know. Autologic gave me info for a shop close to me, so now I know if they say I have to 'leave it for the day' something would be fishy (my car has a lot of power mods).
Should be very simple. Keep in mind that some shops may charge a minimum 1hr or possible flat rate for coding, I would check beforehand.
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      11-27-2012, 08:01 PM   #164
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Had a couple of inquiries on LCI Taillight upgrade procedures, bringing this back from the archives.
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      01-11-2013, 04:40 PM   #165
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Big Shot out to Tom@EAS for helping me with the Autologic and coding my Rear taillights...Thanks..
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Slightly off topic... I have a 2008 328xi (production 11/07). Looking to jump from pre lci halogen to lci ahl xenon. I'm guessing that the retrofitting the headlights vs retrofitting the tail lights have the same FRM requirements, so according to Tom@EAS's research, this means that I'd need to get an FRM3.

Two questions:
1. Are all FRM3s LED/AHL capable? I have not seen any FRM3s with these designations on the stickers. One vendor on ebay tells me FRM3s are all the same - all of them have all the capabilities.

2. If I get the FRM3 and code the xenon headlights, can I keep pre lci tail lights without problems?
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Slightly off topic... I have a 2008 328xi (production 11/07). Looking to jump from pre lci halogen to lci ahl xenon. I'm guessing that the retrofitting the headlights vs retrofitting the tail lights have the same FRM requirements, so according to Tom@EAS's research, this means that I'd need to get an FRM3.

Two questions:
1. Are all FRM3s LED/AHL capable? I have not seen any FRM3s with these designations on the stickers. One vendor on ebay tells me FRM3s are all the same - all of them have all the capabilities.

2. If I get the FRM3 and code the xenon headlights, can I keep pre lci tail lights without problems?
There is no need to purchase a FRM3, FRM2 can be coded by autologic.
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There is no need to purchase a FRM3, FRM2 can be coded by autologic.
Thanks Tom! I have NFRM = FRM2, so if I don't need the FRM3, I'll save about 300 bucks, and that would be great

Is autologic the only way? What about NCSEXPERT?
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Thanks Tom! I have NFRM = FRM2, so if I don't need the FRM3, I'll save about 300 bucks, and that would be great

Is autologic the only way? What about NCSEXPERT?
NCS would also work.

BMW simply cannot program a NFRM/FRM2 to accept LCI tails. For those vehicles equipped with these modules, simply use a dealer-alternative instead (independent).
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NCS would also work.

BMW simply cannot program a NFRM/FRM2 to accept LCI tails. For those vehicles equipped with these modules, simply use a dealer-alternative instead (independent).
Thanks again Tom. So as far as LCI tails are concerned, my NFRM is fine.

But I think according to this post http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=692205, to get AHL and xenon headlights, in all likelihood I'll need to upgrade to the FRM3 anyways... ><
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Thanks again Tom. So as far as LCI tails are concerned, my NFRM is fine.

But I think according to this post http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=692205, to get AHL and xenon headlights, in all likelihood I'll need to upgrade to the FRM3 anyways... ><
Entirely different issue, but might as well get FRM3 for your headlight upgrade. I'm not even certain FRM2 modules are even sold anymore.
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Entirely different issue, but might as well get FRM3 for your headlight upgrade. I'm not even certain FRM2 modules are even sold anymore.
Back to the issue then, sort of Would my pre lci taillights go crazy if I get the FRM3?
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Back to the issue then, sort of Would my pre lci taillights go crazy if I get the FRM3?
No, as long as you get coding after installation.
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No, as long as you get coding after installation.
Found this post http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553832.

Probably no one is interested in using prelci tail with FRM3 Judging from the post, I'll just need to SG_CODIEREN the FRM3 and the tail lights should still be fine, since I would not have added the LED tails to the VO.
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Found this post http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553832.

Probably no one is interested in using prelci tail with FRM3 Judging from the post, I'll just need to SG_CODIEREN the FRM3 and the tail lights should still be fine, since I would not have added the LED tails to the VO.
There is no VO entry for LCI Tails.
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There is no VO entry for LCI Tails.
Eh! I guess I'm getting confused. In the other post, alpina527 said:
"For 2009-2010 models with FRM3 module, add +MUH2 to your Vo and code the FRM".

So I was just thinking that as long as I do nothing to my current VO, and just SG_CODIEREN the FRM3, my pre lci tails would be fine, is that completely wraung?
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