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      12-12-2006, 02:18 PM   #1
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OK all you Philadelphia lawyers....

I know the issue of (Ontario) front plates has been discussed *several* times b4.... BUT;

For obvious reasons , this is a hot topic for me again.
I followed a link from the MTO site to the highway traffic act (Ontario)

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I can't find anything there that says a front plate is required
Anyone else care to try....


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Violations as to number plates

12. (1) Every person who,
(a) defaces or alters any number plate, evidence of validation or permit;
(b) uses or permits the use of a defaced or altered number plate, evidence of validation or permit;
(c) without the authority of the permit holder, removes a number plate from a motor vehicle or trailer;
(d) uses or permits the use of a number plate upon a vehicle other than a number plate authorized for use on that vehicle;
(e) uses or permits the use of evidence of validation upon a number plate displayed on a motor vehicle other than evidence of validation furnished by the Ministry in respect of that motor vehicle; or
(f) uses or permits the use of a number plate or evidence of validation other than in accordance with this Act and the regulations,

is guilty of an offence and on conviction is liable to a fine of not less than $100 and not more than $1,000 or to imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or to both, and in addition the person’s licence or permit may be suspended for not more than six months. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 12 (1).
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Try the regulations as to affixin' 'em plates
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Quote:
Originally Posted by inTgr8r
I know the issue of (Ontario) front plates has been discussed *several* times b4.... BUT;

For obvious reasons , this is a hot topic for me again.
I followed a link from the MTO site to the highway traffic act (Ontario)

LINKY

I can't find anything there that says a front plate is required
Anyone else care to try....
I'm a lawyer so I know that many things you are looking for aren't necessarily found in the specific statute. Have you tried looking through the regulations under the HTA?
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      12-12-2006, 02:54 PM   #4
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I'm a lawyer so I know that many things you are looking for aren't necessarily found in the specific statute. Have you tried looking through the regulations under the HTA?
Yes...
It was the HTA I was looking through HTA Link
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See s. 7(1)(b)(i) of the Act that says:

Permit requirements

7. (1) No person shall drive a motor vehicle on a highway unless,

(a) there exists a currently validated permit for the vehicle;

(b) there are displayed on the vehicle, in the prescribed manner,

(i) number plates issued in accordance with the regulations showing the number of the permit issued for the vehicle, or

The word "prescribed" means prescribed by the Regulations.

So looking at the Regs, here you go (s. 9(3) of R.R.O. 1990, Regulation 628):

Number Plates

9. (1) Evidence of validation issued for use on a number plate shall be affixed,

(a) where the permit is for a commercial motor vehicle, in the upper right corner of the number plate exposed on the front of the motor vehicle; and

(b) in all other cases, in the upper right corner of the number plate exposed on the rear of the motor vehicle. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 628, s. 9 (1).

(2) Despite subsection (1), a RUO sticker shall be affixed in the upper left corner of the number plate exposed on the front of the bus. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 628, s. 9 (2).

(3) The number plates for a motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle or a motor assisted bicycle, shall be attached to and exposed in a conspicuous position on the front and rear of the motor vehicle. R.R.O. 1990, Reg. 628, s. 9 (3).

However, for some reason, I can't find out what the fine is for not having a front plate. Anyone?
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Thanks Jackson....

There are a number of plate related fines listed in the HTA...
It's a little vague, but most are $100. min.
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      12-15-2006, 06:42 PM   #7
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Saw an E90 325i without a front plate on the DVP last week. It looked very nice in the rear view mirror.
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Damn it! What the hell is the purpose of a front bumper license plate? So that when you go to 407 they could take a picture of your Rear license plate and charge you? or have the police chase you from behind and take your number? Or do they just like the cars in the city to look absolutely hideous when you look at them from front!?

I saw a Ferrari 612 the other day, poor car had a front license plate! It had taken away all the glory...
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I agree completely.....
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+1, i often see ferraris and lambos with front plates, and it totally ruins the whole flow of the lines of the car, too bad and shameful that our government has to put fines on things that does little or no harm to the general public, they should fine the REAL bad guys out there!!
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