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      07-29-2010, 01:04 PM   #67
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Sorry Andrew Spot on TTRS is very nice. I agree with Irnbrukid - don't think Mk2 is girly. As girly as a Cayman? Which i'd love to have a shot of
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yeah def see more guys in the new TT's, esp the TTS and TTRS
suits girls very well also. its a good looking little car, i gave it a little thought when i was looking
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      07-29-2010, 05:09 PM   #69
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yeah, i'm a guy and i drive a TT!!! ;-)
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Where does that hairdresser title come from?

Seems that many very decent cars get labelled with it - maybe it's a way for those that can't afford one to make themselves feel better or something?!

TT, MX5, MR2, Boxster and many others - all great cars, all get "that" label.
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yeah, i'm a guy and i drive a TT!!! ;-)
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My Mrs calls it the TiTTyaRSe

As soon as BMW release a 4 Wheel drive 335/340d ill be having one..
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As soon as BMW release a 4 Wheel drive 335/340d ill be having one..
Same here, but never seen any mention of it.
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Same here, but never seen any mention of it.
Me neither, its crazy they offer them in the US/Canada and certain parts of Europe but not over here
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The 335ix (there isn't a 335dx) seems to have mixed reviews from the States - it rides very high (even M Sported up), is more "wallowy" and weighs a HUGE amount more than the non x-drive.

I think if you want AWD, you need an Audi not an "x" BMW.
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Same here, but never seen any mention of it.
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Me neither, its crazy they offer them in the US/Canada and certain parts of Europe but not over here
It's too difficult and costly to engineer their 4WD saloon cars for right hand drive. The steering column and steering rack are all in the wrong place for the extra drivetrain and differential, so the cost of design and implementation would result in the retail price being abnormally high and therefore uncompetitive.

Audi get away with being able to design 4WD cars for all markets because fundamentally their cars are FWD and therefore by design must be able to work with both right and left hand drive cars. Adding 4WD rearwards is easy - doing it the other way from a rear wheel drive car is much harder. That is also why the BMW 4WD saloon cars are dynamically flawed - they just weren't designed to have the same balance with a 4WD system, hence the wallowy handling (which is exacerbated by the elevated ride height)

BMW don't see enough commercial interest in a 4WD saloon car in the UK market - Audi have it all sewn up.
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Not just the UK market though

1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas
5. Bangladesh
6. Barbados
7. Bermuda
8. Bhutan
9. Botswana
10. Brunei
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14. Cyprus
15. Dominica
16. East Timor
17. Falkland Islands
18. Fiji
19. Grenada
20. Guernsey (Channel Islands)
21. Guyana
22. Hong Kong
23. India
24. Indonesia
25. Ireland
26. Isle of Man
27. Jamaica
28. Japan
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34. Macau
35. Malawi
36. Malaysia
37. Maldives
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70. Uganda
71. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)
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Not just the UK market though

1. Anguilla
2. Antigua and Barbuda
3. Australia
4. Bahamas
5. Bangladesh
6. Barbados
7. Bermuda
8. Bhutan
9. Botswana
10. Brunei
11. Cayman Islands
12. Christmas Island (Australia)
13. Cook Islands
14. Cyprus
15. Dominica
16. East Timor
17. Falkland Islands
18. Fiji
19. Grenada
20. Guernsey (Channel Islands)
21. Guyana
22. Hong Kong
23. India
24. Indonesia
25. Ireland
26. Isle of Man
27. Jamaica
28. Japan
29. Jersey (Channel Islands)
30. Kenya
31. Kiribati
32. Cocos (Keeling) Islands (Australia)
33. Lesotho
34. Macau
35. Malawi
36. Malaysia
37. Maldives
38. Malta
39. Mauritius
40. Montserrat
41. Mozambique
42. Namibia
43. Nauru
44. Nepal
45. New Zealand
46. Niue
47. Norfolk Island (Australia)
48. Pakistan
49. Papua New Guinea
50. Pitcairn Islands (Britain)
51. Saint Helena
52. Saint Kitts and Nevis
53. Saint Lucia
54. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
55. Samoa
56. Seychelles
57. Singapore
58. Solomon Islands
59. South Africa
60. Sri Lanka
61. Suriname
62. Swaziland
63. Tanzania
64. Thailand
65. Tokelau (New Zealand)
66. Tonga
67. Trinidad and Tobago
68. Turks and Caicos Islands
69. Tuvalu
70. Uganda
71. United Kingdom (England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland)
72. Virgin Islands (British)
73. Virgin Islands (US)
74. Zambia
75. Zimbabwe
I do LOVE St Vincent and The Grenadines.

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BMW don't see enough commercial interest in a 4WD saloon car in the UK market - Audi have it all sewn up.
Thought that the new 5 was getting xdrive soon???
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My company are offering 4wd conversions now. If anyone's interested.
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I do LOVE St Vincent and The Grenadines.

Matt

I bet BMW sell shed loads there
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I bet BMW sell shed loads there
Me too.... I could go there and live like a King... Or be killed.

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It's too difficult and costly to engineer their 4WD saloon cars for right hand drive. The steering column and steering rack are all in the wrong place for the extra drivetrain and differential, so the cost of design and implementation would result in the retail price being abnormally high and therefore uncompetitive.

Audi get away with being able to design 4WD cars for all markets because fundamentally their cars are FWD and therefore by design must be able to work with both right and left hand drive cars. Adding 4WD rearwards is easy - doing it the other way from a rear wheel drive car is much harder. That is also why the BMW 4WD saloon cars are dynamically flawed - they just weren't designed to have the same balance with a 4WD system, hence the wallowy handling (which is exacerbated by the elevated ride height)

BMW don't see enough commercial interest in a 4WD saloon car in the UK market - Audi have it all sewn up.
If Audi had developed their 3.0tdi up to 275bhp i'd still be in one
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If Audi had developed their 3.0tdi up to 275bhp i'd still be in one
Just remap it.. take it you mean standard.
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Raced a re-mapped A5 3.0tdi. Nice car.
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Just remap it.. take it you mean standard.
Yeh 335D 280ish standard 330-40ish mapped Huge difference
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Yeh 335D 280ish standard 330-40ish mapped Huge difference
Wouldnt say its huge. it would hardly be slow.. some people never have enough
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I know a guy with a remapped 3.0TDI A4 - now on 275bhp and a bit under 400lbs-ft.

But the car still steers badly, still has snatchy brakes and is still sold by the worst dealers this side of Vauxhall. Does sound good with a Milltek exhaust though - is anything like that available for the 335d?
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