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      12-05-2010, 02:47 PM   #45
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NO. Only one person is being ignorant, as far as I can see. Why do you continue to ignore direct evidence that 328s are now receiving ZF transmissions?? That's what this thread is about... not your nonsensical drivel about how you perceive the GM to be inferior. YES... everyone knows the lowly 328 previously recieved GM transmissions, but that doesn't appear to be the case now.

Explain to us then, how a GM transmission can be maufactured in GERMANY. We are waiting... *tap tap*
Dude its assembled in germany-I told anyone to post their VIN--until someone can do that anyone could say anything. Realoem means nothing unless you have a VIN search showing-if it is so easy then do it
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      12-05-2010, 03:57 PM   #47
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If you are going 75 5th is slowsville-that is not debateable
Look all you can say is this is not debatable that is not debatable, you need to have your 530 checked.

I am on freeway at 75 all the time, I have absolutely no problem passing other cars, reaching 90 in no time, I can even do that on a fairly steep incline too, going from 70 to 90 in no time, no need to redline my engine to do so, this might have to do with my DIY scoops too which you laughed at, but who cares what do you believe what my I6 can or cannot do when I can do it all the time? Keep telling me I cannot do it when I am doing it all the time, is not called "not debatable" it is called "sticking your head in the sand."

BTW bft has already found out for his 9/10 production on RealOEM there are ZF tranny parts available for his 328, so why don't you go someplace pound sand?
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dtc100: It should be pretty easy to determine what transmission actually you have... GM vs ZF. Looking at the spec drawings on realoem, if you look underneath your car from the driver's side... with a ZF transmission, you should see 8 bolts corner-to-corner on the underside of the oil pan (on the side that is closest to you). The GM transmission only has 6 bolts corner-to-corner.

That should settle it...
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dtc100: It should be pretty easy to determine what transmission actually you have... GM vs ZF. Looking at the spec drawings on realoem, if you look underneath your car from the driver's side... with a ZF transmission, you should see 8 bolts corner-to-corner on the underside of the oil pan (on the side that is closest to you). The GM transmission only has 6 bolts corner-to-corner.

That should settle it...
Last time I looked under most everything was covered up, I am not going to put the car on a lift, remove all the pieces just to find out which tranny it is, is there any other way to confirm?
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I thought GM made some of the best automatic transmissions.

Not sure if it was answered (tl;dr) but ZF makes the 8-speed. Nice videos of it on the ZF website I think.
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Last time I looked under most everything was covered up, I am not going to put the car on a lift, remove all the pieces just to find out which tranny it is, is there any other way to confirm?
You're right... I just looked at an E90 out in the parking lot and couldn't see the underside of the transmission. You'd have to get under it and remove a panel. I didn't figure the drivetrain components would be hidden like that... :/
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Well I was astonished to log in this evening and find my post had grown into such a beast! Thanks to all (but one) of you for your help.

Very interesting about GA6HP19Z... I won't pretend to know much about car parts but was surprised to see that it's the same auto trans as in the 335i. Saw a post on here that they also use this in the 325d in Europe, so I guess it's possible!

For what's it worth, I punched in my VIN number on realoem, it was a 4/2010 build date E90 328i with N51 engine... both GA6HP19Z and GA6L45R pop up. Since 6L45R was the only option on my 2007 328 (which had the French trans), and my 2011 has the German trans, I'm assuming I've got GA6HP19Z made by ZF. Half tempted to book a trip to Munich so I can go to the factory and look for myself.
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Well I was astonished to log in this evening and find my post had grown into such a beast! Thanks to all (but one) of you for your help.

Very interesting about GA6HP19Z... I won't pretend to know much about car parts but was surprised to see that it's the same auto trans as in the 335i. Saw a post on here that they also use this in the 325d in Europe, so I guess it's possible!

For what's it worth, I punched in my VIN number on realoem, it was a 4/2010 build date E90 328i with N51 engine... both GA6HP19Z and GA6L45R pop up. Since 6L45R was the only option on my 2007 328 (which had the French trans), and my 2011 has the German trans, I'm assuming I've got GA6HP19Z made by ZF. Half tempted to book a trip to Munich so I can go to the factory and look for myself.
There is still no absolute confirmation though the late model 328i's have the ZF tranny. I think someone has to look at the tranny itself to find out.
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Other identifying features: The ZF tranny uses torx screws on the pan, whereas the GM has standard bolts. The ZF pan has a pronounced notch, passenger side rear. The GM pan is pretty much rectangular.

All you have to do is get under it and remove a panel to see. I might do this after mine comes in (crossing my fingers for the end of this month)...
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Who provides the new 8spd AT?

I am not too sure about the benefit of the 8spd though, a lot of shifting if you like to use the manual mode, or do they allow you to skip gears?
ZF is making the new 8 speed. Yippy!
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For what's it worth, I punched in my VIN number on realoem, it was a 4/2010 build date E90 328i with N51 engine... both GA6HP19Z and GA6L45R pop up. Since 6L45R was the only option on my 2007 328 (which had the French trans), and my 2011 has the German trans, I'm assuming I've got GA6HP19Z made by ZF.
I don't know if I'd go by realOEM only... it shows two transmissions from the beginning of LCI onward. Though if you click on the latest MY, it shows no parts available for the GA6L45R. I'd say that if the country of origin on the sticker says GERMANY for the transmission, that's a damn good indication you have a ZF. Why else would that be? Are GM transmissions assembled there?? I think not...
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Well, some "gearheads" might have a degenerative nerve condition. If you don't know where your left leg exists in space w/o looking at it, makes it kind of hard to operate a clutch. Sorry... I HAVE to drive an auto. Just glad I can still step on the gas!

Although, I probably wouldn't want to drive a manual around the Seattle area anymore anyway. Exercise in futility with all the traffik around here...
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Well, some "gearheads" might have a degenerative nerve condition. If you don't know where your left leg exists in space w/o looking at it, makes it kind of hard to operate a clutch. Sorry... I HAVE to drive an auto. Just glad I can still step on the gas!

Although, I probably wouldn't want to drive a manual around the Seattle area anymore anyway. Exercise in futility with all the traffik around here...
A little antsy as the delivery day getting close? Don't let some "punkheads" get to you.
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Does anyone have anything new on the ZF in place of the GM transmission for the Sept 10 build and later 328?
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Well I should be taking delivery this week and plan on providing photographic evidence...
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Well I should be taking delivery this week and plan on providing photographic evidence...
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Well, some "gearheads" might have a degenerative nerve condition. If you don't know where your left leg exists in space w/o looking at it, makes it kind of hard to operate a clutch. Sorry... I HAVE to drive an auto. Just glad I can still step on the gas!

Although, I probably wouldn't want to drive a manual around the Seattle area anymore anyway. Exercise in futility with all the traffik around here...
word... also an exercise in brooklyn!!
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told you that you will never find you have a zf tranny because none of you do-get on with your life. for 230 hp does it really matter
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