E90Post
 


GT Haus
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos > BMW 335 cp vs. Audi S4



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-07-2007, 09:58 PM   #1
greekbmw
New Member
greekbmw's Avatar
1
Rep
20
Posts

 
Drives: 2007 335i coupe blk/red
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Greece

iTrader: (0)

BMW 335 cp vs. Audi S4

so last night i went out with my buddy to our little car meets that we have on saturdays and it was my first meet with my 335. i park my car and evreyone is looking at it and since i took the badge of they were asking me what it was and i told them. so anyways this kid in an Audi S4 with a chip intake and exhaust comes up to me and asks me if i would want to run him. so i accepted the challenge and went on the highway. we did two runs. the first run was from a 45mph roll and i honk three times and i went i punched it it looked like he stopped and i put a good 5 cars on him. so i slow down and we go again because i was surprised. same 45mph roll honk three times and we take off. all in all i beat by 6 and 1/2 cars i would say and i took all the way up to 140mph. sorry for no videos of this didnt have a camera with me. btw, my car is still stock so i dont know. i guess this proves that the 335 is one mean machine :rocks:
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2007, 10:02 PM   #2
beemah
Captain
United_States
6
Rep
612
Posts

 
Drives: Porsche Cayman S
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

a MEAN MACHINE living on a prayer!
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2007, 10:06 PM   #3
hemi to e90
dat boost doe
hemi to e90's Avatar
Poland
17
Rep
1,552
Posts

 
Drives: 10 335i, 12 a8, 14 899, 10 zr1
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: staten island

iTrader: (1)

which s4? b5, b6, b7?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2007, 10:13 PM   #4
FirstClass
Brigadier General
31
Rep
3,199
Posts

 
Drives: 328xi
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hemi to e90
which s4? b5, b6, b7?
It definitely wasn't a b7, thats for sure. Probably b5 or 6. Then again it could have been a b7 with a shitty driver.
__________________
328xi Coupe, Montego Blue on Black with Alum, Step, Sport, Premium, CA, PDC, Cold Weather (Damn Pennsylvania winters)
Current Mods: Heavy right foot - Planned Mods: Lightweight right foot

Quote:
Originally Posted by jh valley View Post
shit, if i had that kind of money id buy a gtstreet for monday, an ascari a10 for tuesday, a DBS for wednesday and id just ride jessica alba the rest of the week.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2007, 10:31 PM   #5
picus
Brigadier General
picus's Avatar
Canada
57
Rep
4,176
Posts

 
Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto, ON

iTrader: (0)

I don't think B7 guys chip their cars regularly, do they? Probably a B6. A B7 and 335i is a drivers race for sure.
Appreciate 0
      01-07-2007, 10:32 PM   #6
kujo
Major
32
Rep
1,153
Posts

 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: May 2006
Location: LA, CA USA

iTrader: (1)

B5's looked nothing like the B6 or B7.
B5's were twin turbo's and if it was chipped would have run with you.

I owned two B6 S4's and this car has no problem with them.
The second one was modded to the hilt and it still didn't run like this can.

But, if it was a properly modded B5, you would have known it.

Shitty driver ?
A 45mph roll.......
If it was off the line, that could be it.....
From a roll, you just punch it... no launch involved.

Be safe......

kj
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 12:08 AM   #7
Walked U
Brigadier General
68
Rep
3,118
Posts

 
Drives: RR sport s/c, E82, E89 3.5is
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (5)

Yes its regular to chip or reflash your b6-b7 s4. S4's dont have much after market mods, so every little thing counts. I use to have one and they arent as fast as everyone thinks.

Reason being I got a 335i instead of the new 07 s4. I use to be a vw/audi guy for years but, audi just needs to step up their game in the speed department.

An e46 m3 will walk all over it stock for stock. In order to keep up with a e46 m3 you need good amount of bolt ons. That and being the tunners for the s4 never came out with a supercharger was upsetting. ( excluddings MTM's s/c which is 20k)

Now in the other hand a b5 s4, (twin turbo 2.7L) will put up a really good fight with just chip and exhaust.
__________________
Previous - E90 335i, E82
Current - E89 / Range Rover sport Super charged.

Last edited by Walked U; 01-08-2007 at 12:59 AM.
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 12:10 AM   #8
Walked U
Brigadier General
68
Rep
3,118
Posts

 
Drives: RR sport s/c, E82, E89 3.5is
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kujo
B5's looked nothing like the B6 or B7.
B5's were twin turbo's and if it was chipped would have run with you.

I owned two B6 S4's and this car has no problem with them.
The second one was modded to the hilt and it still didn't run like this can.

But, if it was a properly modded B5, you would have known it.

Shitty driver ?
A 45mph roll.......
If it was off the line, that could be it.....
From a roll, you just punch it... no launch involved.

Be safe......

kj

And +1 to what kurt said.
__________________
Previous - E90 335i, E82
Current - E89 / Range Rover sport Super charged.
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 12:29 AM   #9
canuck335i
Private with no class
canuck335i's Avatar
Canada
8
Rep
649
Posts

 
Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: North of Montreal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walked U
Yes its regular to chip or reflash your b6-b7 s4. S4's dont have much after market mods, so every little thing counts. I use to have one and they arent as fast as everyone thinks.

Reason being I got a 335i instead of the new 07 s4. I use to be a vw/audi guy for years but, audi just needs to step up their game in the speed department.

An e46 m3 will walk all over it stock for stock. In order to keep up with a e46 m3 you need good amount of bolt ons. That and being the tunners for the s4 never came out with a supercharger was upsetting. ( excluddings MTM's s/c which is 20k)

Now in the other hand a b5 s4, (twin turbo 2.8L) will put up a really good fight with just chip and exhaust.

correction, b5 s4 was a 2.7l, not 2.8l
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 12:58 AM   #10
Walked U
Brigadier General
68
Rep
3,118
Posts

 
Drives: RR sport s/c, E82, E89 3.5is
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (5)

Ya my bad, was typing to fast.
__________________
Previous - E90 335i, E82
Current - E89 / Range Rover sport Super charged.
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 02:22 AM   #11
RaptorKTM
Colonel
RaptorKTM's Avatar
United_States
72
Rep
2,367
Posts

 
Drives: 1 M Coupe
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW 1 M  [0.00]
i can for sure see u beating a B5 S4. But B7 S4's wont loose by that much if at all.
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 02:43 AM   #12
Walked U
Brigadier General
68
Rep
3,118
Posts

 
Drives: RR sport s/c, E82, E89 3.5is
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by socalm3
i can for sure see u beating a B5 S4. But B7 S4's wont loose by that much if at all.
I dont think you even really need to do a real life test to figure out the 335i is faster than the s4.

06 Audi s4
Curb Weight 3,825 lbs.
Horsepower 340 @ 7,000 RPM
Torque 302 @ 3,500 RPM

07 Bmw 335i coupe
Curb weight 3571 lbs.
300/5800 hp (realistically around 330)
300/1400-5000 lb-ft (realistically around 340)


Not trying to talk crap about the s4, its just a slower car thats all. Trust me Ive owned a b5 s4 and a b6 s4. And the v8 s4 compared to the 335i isnt as fast. Maybe feels faster because of the stiffer suspension but its not.
__________________
Previous - E90 335i, E82
Current - E89 / Range Rover sport Super charged.
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 08:03 AM   #13
BMW320i
Colonel
BMW320i's Avatar
Oman
46
Rep
2,915
Posts

 
Drives: '06 AW 320i
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Muscat, Oman

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2006 320i  [0.00]
Send a message via MSN to BMW320i
nice kill, if it's a b5 it would be easy, but b7!!! that's a big
__________________

19" velocity CSL replicas staggured // Continental sport contact 2: rear: 255/35/19, Front: 235/35/19 // Blacklines // rear OEM spoiler // y-connector // 30% v-kool tint all around // Black Roof/Mirrors // H&R Sport springs // H&R TRAK+ 15mm spacers //
BMW never makes ordinary cars . . .
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 01:45 PM   #14
mmm def
Colonel
mmm def's Avatar
United_States
38
Rep
2,582
Posts

 
Drives: 06 330i, 12 MDX
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to mmm def
I had a B5 S4 chipped/Exhaust. Now I don't have my 335 yet (this week) but from looking at the #'s posted for the 1/4, I would think it would be a decent race Stock 335 Vs chipped S4. Haven't seen any blown turbo posts yet..yay!
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 07:45 PM   #15
scm6079
First Lieutenant
scm6079's Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
345
Posts

 
Drives: '13 M3, Lotus Exige S260
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Phoenix, AZ

iTrader: (0)

Owner of both... still think my S4 would take my 335 in that situation. 335 is fast, but S4 has more grunt. I expect that was a v6 turbo S4... not the V8.

_Scott
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 08:13 PM   #16
dr335is
Brigadier General
54
Rep
4,975
Posts

 
Drives: Some Mazda junk...
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walked U
I dont think you even really need to do a real life test to figure out the 335i is faster than the s4.

06 Audi s4
Curb Weight 3,825 lbs.
Horsepower 340 @ 7,000 RPM
Torque 302 @ 3,500 RPM

07 Bmw 335i coupe
Curb weight 3571 lbs.
300/5800 hp (realistically around 330)
300/1400-5000 lb-ft (realistically around 340)


Not trying to talk crap about the s4, its just a slower car thats all. Trust me Ive owned a b5 s4 and a b6 s4. And the v8 s4 compared to the 335i isnt as fast. Maybe feels faster because of the stiffer suspension but its not.
hah, 330 HP now...realistically...
It started with 300, then 310, 320, now it is 330. Maybe they hid extra two cylinders in there and will reuse it for the m3 and spec it at 420?

the differences should be so small that the smallest driver error would effect it. So, 6-car length or so is probably not an expected outcome...
Appreciate 0
      01-08-2007, 10:25 PM   #17
Walked U
Brigadier General
68
Rep
3,118
Posts

 
Drives: RR sport s/c, E82, E89 3.5is
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by dr325i
hah, 330 HP now...realistically...
It started with 300, then 310, 320, now it is 330. Maybe they hid extra two cylinders in there and will reuse it for the m3 and spec it at 420?

Are you serious...So the car magicly does the 1/4 in 13.3, and dynos anywhere from 270-290 rwhp (on dyno jets). Ya ok...

There are many dynos already that have the car making that much hp. I have a friend that has a e46 m3 bone stock and from rolls from 40mph all the way up to 140mph ( let off) I stick it with him neck and neck.


And ya I dont think it would have been 6 CL's either probably more like 1, no arguments there. I never implied that the 335i would beat it from a roll by 6 CL's just said that the 335i is faster. Thats from personal experiance.
__________________
Previous - E90 335i, E82
Current - E89 / Range Rover sport Super charged.
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2007, 10:14 AM   #18
dr335is
Brigadier General
54
Rep
4,975
Posts

 
Drives: Some Mazda junk...
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Dallas, TX

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Walked U
Are you serious...So the car magicly does the 1/4 in 13.3, and dynos anywhere from 270-290 rwhp (on dyno jets). Ya ok...

There are many dynos already that have the car making that much hp. I have a friend that has a e46 m3 bone stock and from rolls from 40mph all the way up to 140mph ( let off) I stick it with him neck and neck.


And ya I dont think it would have been 6 CL's either probably more like 1, no arguments there. I never implied that the 335i would beat it from a roll by 6 CL's just said that the 335i is faster. Thats from personal experiance.
Actually, the stock dynos I've seen were from 262 - 27x. Maybe you're saying it is normal for the Bimmer to loose 25% to the wheels but for others it is 10%?
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2007, 11:07 AM   #19
JEllis
Brigadier General
JEllis's Avatar
84
Rep
4,783
Posts

 
Drives: E36 M3, E92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SD CA/Yuma

iTrader: (4)

Actually most stock dynos, especially the ones on this site, have been around 286 RWHP( the same power put down by automobile magazine)....

Jason
__________________
http://www.m3post.com/forums/signaturepics/sigpic14547_7.gif
Appreciate 0
      01-09-2007, 12:42 PM   #20
hemi to e90
dat boost doe
hemi to e90's Avatar
Poland
17
Rep
1,552
Posts

 
Drives: 10 335i, 12 a8, 14 899, 10 zr1
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: staten island

iTrader: (1)

look if it was a B5 with a chip and exhuast the train is gonna come back....... unless it was an auto? because a B5 S4 with chip/exhaust is over 300hp and is a beast in a way the 4.2s cant hang.

2.7t B5 S4
4.2 B6 S4
4.2 B7 S4

last two are the same engine and make similar power.

at a launch though either car will destroy a BMW till ~70mph, this ofcourse average to average drivers racing.

V8 S4s arent what they are made out to be in the straight line...... just arent
__________________
Appreciate 0
      01-12-2007, 10:11 PM   #21
greekbmw
New Member
greekbmw's Avatar
1
Rep
20
Posts

 
Drives: 2007 335i coupe blk/red
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Athens, Greece

iTrader: (0)

it was a B5 s4 manual....i'm not bsing anything about this...my buddy was following me and he couldnt believe it either but i got him
__________________
2007 335i coupe Black Sapphire Red Coral/Black Dakota leather
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:30 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST