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      02-06-2014, 07:19 PM   #1
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Vibration on the highway. Weird. What could it be?

So I purchased for new wheels and all new DWS tires.

When I'm driving or accelerating around 40 to 50 mph I get a slight vibration or hesitation type jerking that seems to fade out past 75mph.

I just checked the wheels at a road force place and he said they appear fine and no damage.

Wheels are 2 weeks old and I had them re balanced.

It's still has a shake to it when I drive. I don't hear any road noise and the tires seem very soft and smooth.

It could be just my imagination but when I let off the gas it seems
Less noticeable and when I start to press the gas again and slightly accelerate or maintain speed it starts to have this weird feeling around my legs.

The steering wheel doesn't shake either, or at least it doesn't feel like it to me.

The wheels are 74.1 hub centric bore. I have 74 to 72.6 plastic rings on the hub too.

Any thoughts?
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Those rings can be a bitch, you running plastic or metal?

Hard to get a smooth bmw ride with stuff like that going on :/
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Those rings can be a bitch, you running plastic or metal?

Hard to get a smooth bmw ride with stuff like that going on :/
Plastic. No damage. Should I just clean the surfaces spotless and reinstall everything?
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You can try, but plastic has some give, so it can have some play between the wheel and hub. Just an unacceptable link in a tight system.
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You can try, but plastic has some give, so it can have some play between the wheel and hub. Just an unacceptable link in a tight system.
So I should get aluminum ones then?

Since I just cleaned my hubs and installed bms spacers it seems to fit snug on the spacers. The spacers themselves fit pretty great on the hub so I will know tomorrow.
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Vibration still present. Slightly better but still there.
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How many miles on the tires? Takes a 100 or so miles to wear off new coating and they can be slick esp cold. Also what are the sizes?

DWS is a very high tread wear tire (50k miles not unusual), will not feel like a summer tire at all, has more road noise like a snow tire almost. Also tends to pick up every little piece of gravel.

Assuming you have correct size wheels and tires F/R, I would not worry about it until you've got them broken in, mean time look at each tire carefully and see if anything is stuck in tread.
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How many miles on the tires? Takes a 100 or so miles to wear off new coating and they can be slick esp cold. Also what are the sizes?

DWS is a very high tread wear tire (50k miles not unusual), will not feel like a summer tire at all, has more road noise like a snow tire almost. Also tends to pick up every little piece of gravel.

Assuming you have correct size wheels and tires F/R, I would not worry about it until you've got them broken in, mean time look at each tire carefully and see if anything is stuck in tread.
I have 235/35/19 front, 265/30/19 rear.

Is there a noticeable difference between a hubcentric rings that is 74.1 to72.56 VS 74 to 72.6?

I have rings that are plastic and say 74 to 72.6.

Also I placed the hub centric ring into my wheel and slide it on my BMS wheel spacer it slides on slightly snugged but it'll pop off I don't put the lug nuts in.

Like the bottom will space out on the wheel, it will not sit tight and flush without the Lugnuts does this mean my ring is too thin?
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Take all the spacers off, bolt the wheels on (if they clear) and try it. I would never use a plastic spacer on any car. Get some real ones appropriate size for e9x car.

How many miles on the tires?
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Take all the spacers off, bolt the wheels on (if they clear) and try it. I would never use a plastic spacer on any car. Get some real ones appropriate size for e9x car.

How many miles on the tires?
Tires have maybe 400 miles. The spacers are Burger Tuning. They are aluminum high quality spacers.

The hub centric rings are plastic, the fit snug into the wheel but i was able to press them in by hand. They also slide onto the spacer snug but bottom pops out and wont stay flush without bolts.
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Well, take em off anyway and see if the problem goes away. While the wheels are off look closely at the tires all the way around each look for any foreign matter stuck in treads.
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Well, take em off anyway and see if the problem goes away. While the wheels are off look closely at the tires all the way around each look for any foreign matter stuck in treads.
Vibration was there long before the spacers. Off or on its the same. I am stumped on this myself.
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Could be a front end component.
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Hmmm. If you have your old wheels and tires and weather permits, swap them out and see if it persists. If it does it is suspension or drivetrain. If it doesn't it is something with the new set.

Some other guy here had the same issue recently, turned out to be the tires. He looked into everything, felt like an engine misfire or DTC kicking in. But it was the tires IIRC.
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have you gotten an alignment? the old tires wore to compensate for an existing issue.

i would look to get the aluminum hub centric rings (tire rack sells them) and get an alignment.
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How many miles on your gearbox. Probably needs gearbox dynamic oil change.
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Old tires are sold. I ordered aluminum rings from discount tire.

Alignment was performed by a reputable shop here and was spot on when I left. I have a thread on here about it.

I changed the differentials for redline 75w90, the transfer case for oem BMW divider oil, and the transmission pan/filter and did 2 changes with redline D6.
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If it would be the wheels or front end components - your steering wheel would vibrate but since you said that the steering wheel is ok - I'm still suggesting its a gearbox issue. When did you do the oil change. Also could be faulty mechatronics or the turbine. Quite common faults on high mileage e9x and e6x models.
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If it would be the wheels or front end components - your steering wheel would vibrate but since you said that the steering wheel is ok - I'm still suggesting its a gearbox issue. When did you do the oil change. Also could be faulty mechatronics or the turbine. Quite common faults on high mileage e9x and e6x models.
The steering wheel has a very slight shake almost unnoticeable. The turbo seems fine, no sounds or overheating. Makes good power.

Could it be the front driveshaft? Originally when I removed to change the transmission fluid I didnt mark it so I am not sure it went back on the right way. Not sure, so a few weeks prior to the wheels I clocked it 90 degrees. Didnt seem to make a difference of any sort, I could be wrong.

What about slightly over filling the transfer case or transmission? I dont mean alot maybe like a 10% overfill. I tried to fill them as accurately as possible.

Also when I let off the gas pedal and start to coast the vibration is still there, it may seem to that its less of a vibration but not sure what that means.

I feel as if the vibration is more dependent on what speed I am going rather than if I am accelerating or braking. There is no vibration on braking whatsoever.
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At the tire shop. They use a hunter gsp9700 road force balancing machine.

They put the front tires and on came back "ok". However the runout and load force was wrong. It said lateral force incorrect. So they input 35psi as the tire setting as it says on my door jam.

Both fronts were off 1.25 ounce. They removed all weight and zeroed out and it is reading "ok" now!

The rear had 42 psi and it read ok. I told them the door jam said 38 psi, once they did that it the machine read 1 ounce on side and .5 ounce on the other side.

What do you guys think.
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Thrust arm bushings... ? get that thing on a lift and get under it. Rebalance the wheels.

Kill a white bull, and burn some incense to the autogods.

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