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      08-29-2010, 05:59 PM   #67
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While lowering your car may be a concept for better handling you have to have some other things happening at the same time, none of which your likely to have; first you have to be up at speeds well over 80 or 100mph's to take advantage of aero effects, not happening, you have to have a very special shapes on the bottom of the car, not happening, and you have to have some very fancy aero pieces on rear to ensure air comes off car clean, not happening. So lowering car DOES NOTHING for you street guys.

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That's not quite right. It can improve the appearance

In all seriousness, in most cases,the lowering can come with a slight decrease in body roll and there may be some increase in handling precision - but - only .000000000001% of the owners will ever have the ability to take advantage of those advantages.

Sometimes, appearances are improved, but sometimes too much lowering just looks goofy.
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There are certain things that I just don't get but the people who do it are very passionate about it and since it is their money and their car I respect their decision.

1. Installing huge rims and lowering a car and screwing up the handling and drivability in the interest of style.

2, Insatllling a trick suspension to make a car hop/

3. Installing a sound system that goes so loud that you have to stand away from the car with a remote control and place a SPL meter in the car to show how loud it goes.

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I just don't think BMW's should be lowered. PERIOD. Hell my E90 is already low enough without putting springs on it, it seems like every car I pull up next to is sitting higher than mine.
So BMW did something wrong by selling a performance suspension system that lowers the car .5 inches?
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      08-29-2010, 07:07 PM   #70
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So BMW did something wrong by selling a performance suspension system that lowers the car .5 inches?
Of course not. A properly designed lowered suspension can, like I said earlier, improve the handling dynamics assuming that the driver can actually take advantage of the improvements.

The half inch drop isn't usually enough for the guys on this board though. Some are only happy if manhole covers rip their oilpan open.
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90% of the street cars that are lowered have done so, sacrificing the main thing they are trying to achieve - handling. Unless you also adjust other geometry in the cars suspension, you are just kidding yourselves. I am always amused by people making these mods for thousands of dollars, swerving around potholes, going diagonally over speed bumps, yet on a track they will be slower than someone with a stock suspension.
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Let's get back on topic.

I don't think anyone hates owners of lowered cars.

What we hate is people that drive badly - either because they are bad drivers or because they've modified their cars so that they can't safely drive on normal streets at the speed of traffic.

We don't care why they are a hazard to other motorists - we just want you to drive like a normal person.
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90% of the street cars that are lowered have done so, sacrificing the main thing they are trying to achieve - handling. Unless you also adjust other geometry in the cars suspension, you are just kidding yourselves. I am always amused by people making these mods for thousands of dollars, swerving around potholes, going diagonally over speed bumps, yet on a track they will be slower than someone with a stock suspension.
Imagine if they spent that coin on improving the nut behind the wheel and consumables?
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Imagine if they spent that coin on improving the nut behind the wheel and consumables?
What? You mean the cheap swill 85 octane from the 'no-name" gas station isn't good enough for my slammed ride? I spent all my money looking cool - why should I bother with stuff like gas or oil. Cheap gas won't cause problems for me anyway because I flip my car when lease is up or when the noisy suspension starts driving me nuts.
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are you telling me that my car is too low?

i am afan of lowered cars, mine will be lowered very soon, as soon as the parts arrive, and yes you car is to low.
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I can see it for handling

But when you look at some of these cars and obvious they didn't put in a camber kit it kind of makes me wonder what they were thinking.
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no car is too low.
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no car is too low.
and no tint too dark
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false. there is dark tint.
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lowering your car is awesome. if you have a problem with the way it feels you are a women or a 50 year old man. the only time its annoying is for ramps but if your a good driver thats not a big deal
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When lowered right there should be no complaints. Looks like it should stock...



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omg i miss this thread!! SO MUCH HATE ON MY CAR.

its cool though. i get compliments all day long. funny how the ones who dont like it are too afraid to roll down their window and speak their mind
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Is it just me or does everyone HATE people who drive slammed cars. I constantly have to slow down, change lanes, sideway speedbumps/ ramps, go around potholes. I get horns daily, middle fingers, and angry old people. I guess some people just dont understand what we go through and mistake us for drunk drivers...
Not to be a total a**hole or anything but maybe if you're car wasn't so low you could actually drive it....just a thought....
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So I can tell you're getting the attention you so crave throughout all of this but here's some more. In regards to the picture of your car; Wow, wow, and WOW.....that's a mighty fine Honda you got there. Super sweet BRO!!!
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are you talking about my honda? it has vtec too.
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are you talking about my honda? it has vtec too.
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are you talking about my honda? it has vtec too.
I like your car, but I think it would look way better if the back wasnt lowered as much. But then again, its not my car, do what you want.
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lol wow

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I like your car, but I think it would look way better if the back wasnt lowered as much. But then again, its not my car, do what you want.
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