Llumar vs 3M which one is better?

anuna · 01-17-2007, 01:44 PM

I just asked the price to tint shop
they say Llumar for $200 and 3M for $220
I think this is a quite reasonable price

Which one is best for E92?
I have navigation and comfort access
some people have trouble when they have a Llumar...
the tint shop owner recommend me 3M because this is a non metalized flim
what do you think guys?

MacAttack · 01-17-2007, 03:30 PM

Don't go for either. Get the ceramic.

AM335 · 01-17-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack

Don't go for either. Get the ceramic.

Yes, try HuperOptik films.

ScheerSpeed · 01-17-2007, 04:56 PM

i got mine for 80

Ninjaneer · 01-17-2007, 05:41 PM

HuperOptik offers ceramic tint. Ceramic is non-metallic and is better than metallic in terms of keeping the heat out, however it tends to be more expensive and may not be as dark as you'd want the tint to be in comparison to metallic.

The price you got quoted is just around what I paid for my Llumar, which is metallic, and has not given me problems with comfort access (CA). Your tint will not affect navigation performance; the sharkfin antenna is on the roof.

Metallic tint could degrade your AM radio reception. 3M makes good stuff but I have only experienced Llumar.

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picus · 01-17-2007, 06:13 PM

3M tints are hit or miss. Most installers agree Llumar, HO, and Solargard are the three most consistently good films.

poiney · 01-17-2007, 09:34 PM

12 years ago, I had Llumar installed on my last car and I had no complaints, although it did scratch (my fault, methinks). Given risk to radio interference and given technology developments, newer films, like ceramics, might be better choice. Dunno.

Driv3r · 01-17-2007, 09:49 PM

hmm well i got llumar for 75bucks, form this guy i was reccomended to....think i was jipped?

beauderek · 01-17-2007, 10:09 PM

I've posted this before but I'm not feeling Huper Optik. I supposedly got HO30 on my windows and it looks weird. (Don't know how to confirm it's actually HO) It looks kind of foggy and reflective. Sometimes it looks OK, but most of the time I don't care for it. Check out my garage pics and you can see what I mean.

Driv3r · 01-17-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by beauderek

I've posted this before but I'm not feeling Huper Optik. I supposedly got HO30 on my windows and it looks weird. (Don't know how to confirm it's actually HO) It looks kind of foggy and reflective. Sometimes it looks OK, but most of the time I don't care for it. Check out my garage pics and you can see what I mean.

you have euros, so it doesnt really matter!

beauderek · 01-17-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Driv3r

you have euros, so it doesnt really matter!

Ha ha ha. Yeah, thanks. But this picture shows what my HO tint often looks like...

Walked U · 01-18-2007, 01:17 AM

I got lumar on mine.

Heres some pics of it the day after I got it installed. Its still perfect condition. Paid around 217 for mine with a life time warrenty.

AH · 01-18-2007, 01:38 AM

I have 3M and so far it works just fine.

stinkboy · 01-18-2007, 09:47 AM

llumar 30% all around 184 total install with lifetime warranty against anything, even me doing something.

stinkboy · 01-18-2007, 09:48 AM

one more

bnj · 01-18-2007, 09:55 AM

The best is non-metallic (not to compromise any type of radio transmitting), that shields the solar energy the best in relation to how much the visibility must be compromised. Has anyone any figures/comparisons?

EuroBMW · 01-23-2007, 04:48 AM

I would get the 3M. The fact that i know for sure its non-metallic and they are probably the best adhesive producer in the world. I know that my film will stick on the glass and do not blister after a few years. Their new crystalline is also a good bet. It never interfere with my GPS (use a PDA based) and my garage opener.

meruyailir · 01-23-2007, 08:47 AM

Here we got a brand called VKool that's very good as well. I don't think it's available in the US (perhaps under a different brand?). But when it comes to adhesive, I agree with eurobmw that 3M is the one to beat.

DocRoss · 01-23-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stinkboy

one more

Mr. Stinkboy--that tint is sickkkkkkk

MacAttack · 01-23-2007, 02:15 PM

I like the 30% Llumar. Very

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Ninjaneer Shadow Warrior 139 Rep 2,095 Posts Drives: '07 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	HuperOptik offers ceramic tint. Ceramic is non-metallic and is better than metallic in terms of keeping the heat out, however it tends to be more expensive and may not be as dark as you'd want the tint to be in comparison to metallic. The price you got quoted is just around what I paid for my Llumar, which is metallic, and has not given me problems with comfort access (CA). Your tint will not affect navigation performance; the sharkfin antenna is on the roof. Metallic tint could degrade your AM radio reception. 3M makes good stuff but I have only experienced Llumar. Do a - tons of info on this topic. __________________ 335i E90 / Arctic / Gray / Burl Walnut / Steptronic / ZPP / ZSP / Paddles / CA / Nav / PDC / OEM Spoiler Mods: PIAA Angel Eyes, Rear Fog Switch, Escort X50 Blue hardwire, 30% Charcoal Llumar Installing soon: Rear Power Outlets (Happy Robot mod!)
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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	3M tints are hit or miss. Most installers agree Llumar, HO, and Solargard are the three most consistently good films.
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poiney Captain 36 Rep 798 Posts Drives: 328i coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SJ iTrader: (0)	12 years ago, I had Llumar installed on my last car and I had no complaints, although it did scratch (my fault, methinks). Given risk to radio interference and given technology developments, newer films, like ceramics, might be better choice. Dunno.
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Walked U Brigadier General 179 Rep 3,125 Posts Drives: Too many to list Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA iTrader: (5)	I got lumar on mine. Heres some pics of it the day after I got it installed. Its still perfect condition. Paid around 217 for mine with a life time warrenty. __________________ Previous - E90 335i, E82 135i, E89 Z4 3.5SI, Range Rover S/C, Ultra White RCF, Maserati Granturismo Current Lexus: SMG LC500 performance package Porsche:1973 911E Ferrari 575 SA, 458 Italia
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EuroBMW Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 325 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jkt iTrader: (0)	I would get the 3M. The fact that i know for sure its non-metallic and they are probably the best adhesive producer in the world. I know that my film will stick on the glass and do not blister after a few years. Their new crystalline is also a good bet. It never interfere with my GPS (use a PDA based) and my garage opener.
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meruyailir Lieutenant 40 Rep 470 Posts Drives: E90 325, E70 X5 3.0 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indonesia iTrader: (0)	Here we got a brand called VKool that's very good as well. I don't think it's available in the US (perhaps under a different brand?). But when it comes to adhesive, I agree with eurobmw that 3M is the one to beat.
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