Keeping RFT's (Heresy?) - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Nevtiger · 10-04-2010, 09:56 AM

I have run my Bridgeston RFT's for 27.5K on my 318d Msport and now they are due for replacement.

To get rid of the stupid wear patterns i saw on the front i have been modulating the tyre pressures from high to very high. Ride quality of course is shocking.

However, i need to keep RFT's on the car as i have been told by the dealer it needs them when (if) it goes back (PCP type purchase).

I dont need ultimate grip from a tyre but i do need it to ride well, cope with standing water and last a while. Is this too much to ask from any of the other RFT's?

Are there any alternatives that are noticably better than the Bridgestone? Any comments/advice would be appreciated.

Nev

Dave_3 · 10-04-2010, 10:04 AM

I replaced my original Bridgestone runflats with a set of Michelin PS2 ZP (runflats). Liked what I read about them : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168648

Ride is noticeably better, with less tramlining than the Bridgestones. Wet weather feel is much improved - the Bridgestones were like bakelite.

Not cheap the Michelins, though.

D.

m1bjr · 10-04-2010, 10:06 AM

Local plod have switched the bimmers to Michelins for the above reasons.

willhollin · 10-04-2010, 10:42 AM

What size are you looking for?

Nevtiger · 10-04-2010, 10:46 AM

225/45 17 and 255/40 17 Standard Msport fare.

Ascension · 10-04-2010, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_3

I replaced my original Bridgestone runflats with a set of Michelin PS2 ZP (runflats). Liked what I read about them : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168648

Ride is noticeably better, with less tramlining than the Bridgestones. Wet weather feel is much improved - the Bridgestones were like bakelite.

Not cheap the Michelins, though.

D.

I was forced to replace my OEM Bridgestone RFT's with Michelins and couldn't be happier

kaishang · 10-04-2010, 11:26 AM

What happened to your tyre?!?!? It's custard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ascension

I was forced to replace my OEM Bridgestone RFT's with Michelins and couldn't be happier

kaishang · 10-04-2010, 11:27 AM

Do specific model types eg E90/91/92 or SE/M-sport get specific brands of tyre from the factory? Or is it a lucky dip?

Ascension · 10-04-2010, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaishang

What happened to your tyre?!?!? It's custard.

I was driving home from work and my tire blew on the side walls. I found out there was a nail in it. I was traveling at 70 mph when it occurred. I was safely able to pull over to the side of the road.

willhollin · 10-04-2010, 11:47 AM

Why not try Kumho KU31 Ecsta Sports?

£107 for the rears and £91.90 for the fronts.

These prices are from Camskill's website.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b238s0p0

NFS · 10-04-2010, 12:42 PM

The Michelins are much better than the Bridgestones.

The ride in my 335i on Michelin PS2 runflats is more forgiving that in my 330i on non-runflat Vredesteins

335diesel · 10-04-2010, 02:30 PM

PS2 runflats are definitely better.

But they are still compromised.

acerboo · 10-04-2010, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_3

I replaced my original Bridgestone runflats with a set of Michelin PS2 ZP (runflats). Liked what I read about them : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168648

Ride is noticeably better, with less tramlining than the Bridgestones. Wet weather feel is much improved - the Bridgestones were like bakelite.

Not cheap the Michelins, though.

D.

i know bridgestones are crap, am thinking of michelins or pirelli, have you noticed any difference in the inner tyre wear yet

chris330D · 10-04-2010, 04:14 PM

Like the others have said, PS2s are really good for runflats. I went from on SE on 17" conti runflats to an MSport on 18" PS2s and the ride was noticeably better. The 'nail' picture above is the upside of keeping runflats.

scooba0010 · 10-06-2010, 01:10 AM

How much to change from Bridgstone rft to Michelins.

I drive my wifes E92 rarely because the ride is awful ,it has 4 k miles on it so i should be able to sell the tyres to off set some of the cost.

19" 225 style alloys .

Or do i keep my eye out for some 225s with Michelin and just buy a spare set

Nevtiger · 10-06-2010, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willhollin

Why not try Kumho KU31 Ecsta Sports?

£107 for the rears and £91.90 for the fronts.

These prices are from Camskill's website.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b238s0p0

Cheap enough to try and see! Else the Pirelli's are under £600 from Micheldever. If i decide to keep the car then i shall fit Michelin

.

Nev

m1bjr · 10-06-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acerboo

i know bridgestones are crap, am thinking of michelins or pirelli, have you noticed any difference in the inner tyre wear yet

Local tyre shop report similar dodgy wear patterns on inside edge of Plods Bimmers (Michelins) although not so bad.

Keep the bloody things, they are a PITA.
Ask any 'EXPERIENCED' tyre shop how many blowouts (big ones) they know of.
Its VERY rare on modern tyres and they dont fall off the rims either

As an aside, Ford commercials are moving over to Kuhmo too, as are others.
Economy of scale means it a multi-million saving for them now the quality is up there with the best.

Jeff123 · 10-06-2010, 01:12 PM

"Ask any 'EXPERIENCED' tyre shop how many blowouts (big ones) they know of.
Its VERY rare on modern tyres and they dont fall off the rims either

"

That's what the guy from Event Tyres said as he was fitting mine. Most of the people that you see with a flat tyre have NOT had a full blowout.

Oli · 10-06-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFS

The ride in my 335i on Michelin PS2 runflats is more forgiving that in my 330i on non-runflat Vredesteins

Both M Sports? I dont believe you

ed335d · 10-06-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevtiger

I have run my Bridgeston RFT's for 27.5K on my 318d Msport and now they are due for replacement.

To get rid of the stupid wear patterns i saw on the front i have been modulating the tyre pressures from high to very high. Ride quality of course is shocking.

However, i need to keep RFT's on the car as i have been told by the dealer it needs them when (if) it goes back (PCP type purchase).

I dont need ultimate grip from a tyre but i do need it to ride well, cope with standing water and last a while. Is this too much to ask from any of the other RFT's?

Are there any alternatives that are noticably better than the Bridgestone? Any comments/advice would be appreciated.

Nev

Put some non-rft's on and enjoy the ride.

Keep an eye out for part-worn rft's (ebay, forums etc) and if you need to put rft's back on at the time of return, do it. If not required to do so, sell them.

I sold my 335d back to a dealer without rft's.

Nevtiger · 11-22-2010, 12:05 PM

An Update:

After 29948 miles on my original Bridgestone RFT's i have fitted Michelin non-RFT Pilot Sport 2.

First impressions are good with a much less crashy ride around town but with a slight increase in tyre noise i think. Also the secondary ride feels different too.

sattapaal · 11-22-2010, 12:17 PM

Ascension > i like your rims, what are they called? looking for new rims, was looking at mv3 or 4's. hope they didnt get ruined on your car mate.

has anyone tried putting RFT's on the rear and non-RFT's on the fronts? (is this a bad idea?)

10-04-2010, 09:56 AM	#1
Nevtiger Enlisted Member Drives: F30 330d MSport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Andover Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	Keeping RFT's (Heresy?) I have run my Bridgeston RFT's for 27.5K on my 318d Msport and now they are due for replacement. To get rid of the stupid wear patterns i saw on the front i have been modulating the tyre pressures from high to very high. Ride quality of course is shocking. However, i need to keep RFT's on the car as i have been told by the dealer it needs them when (if) it goes back (PCP type purchase). I dont need ultimate grip from a tyre but i do need it to ride well, cope with standing water and last a while. Is this too much to ask from any of the other RFT's? Are there any alternatives that are noticably better than the Bridgestone? Any comments/advice would be appreciated. Nev __________________ 330d MSport, Estoril Blue, Pro Nav, Lighting Pack with Adaptive Headlights, Harmon Kardon Speakers. AND a 1972 Hillman Avenger Tiger race car
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10-04-2010, 10:04 AM	#2
Dave_3 Colonel Drives: E92 335D Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: CH / SCO Posts: 2,444 iTrader: (0) Garage List 1973 Escort RS2000 MK1 [0.00]	I replaced my original Bridgestone runflats with a set of Michelin PS2 ZP (runflats). Liked what I read about them : http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168648 Ride is noticeably better, with less tramlining than the Bridgestones. Wet weather feel is much improved - the Bridgestones were like bakelite. Not cheap the Michelins, though. D. __________________ Capri Mk1 : Escort Mk1 RS2000 (2.1 2x44IDFS, BVH, Kent FR32, 5spd, 180 BHP) : Full-Spec 335D E92 2006

10-04-2010, 10:46 AM	#5
Nevtiger Enlisted Member Drives: F30 330d MSport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Andover Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	225/45 17 and 255/40 17 Standard Msport fare. __________________ 330d MSport, Estoril Blue, Pro Nav, Lighting Pack with Adaptive Headlights, Harmon Kardon Speakers. AND a 1972 Hillman Avenger Tiger race car

10-04-2010, 12:42 PM	#11
NFS Major General Drives: 335i m-sport LCI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 9,211 iTrader: (0)	The Michelins are much better than the Bridgestones. The ride in my 335i on Michelin PS2 runflats is more forgiving that in my 330i on non-runflat Vredesteins __________________

10-04-2010, 02:30 PM	#12
335diesel Brigadier General Drives: 335d Touring Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 4,009 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 335d SE Touring [0.00]	PS2 runflats are definitely better. But they are still compromised. __________________ E91 335d SE Touring Also Land Rover Puma Defender 110 XS station wagon

10-04-2010, 10:06 AM	#3
m1bjr LSD - No, you're not seeing things Drives: RS250 CUP Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Somerset UK Posts: 3,239 iTrader: (4)	Local plod have switched the bimmers to Michelins for the above reasons.

10-04-2010, 10:42 AM	#4
willhollin Major General Drives: VW T5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 9,867 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 330d SE [5.00] 2010 Transporter T5 ... [0.00]	What size are you looking for?

10-04-2010, 11:27 AM	#8
kaishang Colonel Drives: 2010 E90 330d Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London Posts: 2,171 iTrader: (0)	Do specific model types eg E90/91/92 or SE/M-sport get specific brands of tyre from the factory? Or is it a lucky dip?

10-04-2010, 11:47 AM	#10
willhollin Major General Drives: VW T5 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 9,867 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 330d SE [5.00] 2010 Transporter T5 ... [0.00]	Why not try Kumho KU31 Ecsta Sports? £107 for the rears and £91.90 for the fronts. These prices are from Camskill's website. http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b238s0p0

10-04-2010, 04:14 PM	#14
chris330D Major Drives: C63 AMG Estate Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sussex, UK Posts: 1,102 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 E91 330D Msport [0.00]	Like the others have said, PS2s are really good for runflats. I went from on SE on 17" conti runflats to an MSport on 18" PS2s and the ride was noticeably better. The 'nail' picture above is the upside of keeping runflats.

10-06-2010, 01:10 AM	#15
scooba0010 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: E92 Space Grey 325d motorsport Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,915 iTrader: (1)	Michelins ! How much to change from Bridgstone rft to Michelins. I drive my wifes E92 rarely because the ride is awful ,it has 4 k miles on it so i should be able to sell the tyres to off set some of the cost. 19" 225 style alloys . Or do i keep my eye out for some 225s with Michelin and just buy a spare set

10-06-2010, 01:12 PM	#18
Jeff123 Jeff Drives: 320d M Sport auto - 2007 (E90) Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 418 iTrader: (0)	"Ask any 'EXPERIENCED' tyre shop how many blowouts (big ones) they know of. Its VERY rare on modern tyres and they dont fall off the rims either " That's what the guy from Event Tyres said as he was fitting mine. Most of the people that you see with a flat tyre have NOT had a full blowout.

11-22-2010, 12:05 PM	#21
Nevtiger Enlisted Member Drives: F30 330d MSport Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Andover Posts: 31 iTrader: (0)	An Update: After 29948 miles on my original Bridgestone RFT's i have fitted Michelin non-RFT Pilot Sport 2. First impressions are good with a much less crashy ride around town but with a slight increase in tyre noise i think. Also the secondary ride feels different too. __________________ 330d MSport, Estoril Blue, Pro Nav, Lighting Pack with Adaptive Headlights, Harmon Kardon Speakers. AND a 1972 Hillman Avenger Tiger race car

11-22-2010, 12:17 PM	#22
sattapaal Private First Class Drives: BMW 330d SE Saloon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ickenham, London Posts: 156 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 330d SE [0.00]	Ascension > i like your rims, what are they called? looking for new rims, was looking at mv3 or 4's. hope they didnt get ruined on your car mate. has anyone tried putting RFT's on the rear and non-RFT's on the fronts? (is this a bad idea?)

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