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      10-26-2010, 02:35 PM   #89
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BMW pretty much got pimp smacked by ABC, and now they are in line.
the general public pimp'd smacked bmw with the help of ABC.

ABC can do a follow up report about owners that have replaced their fuel
pumps and most are still having issues - a possible lemon/ buyback scenario from a national coverage stand point.
Pressures on for BMW, I'm sure bmw engineers are on it.
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They're replacing it with a brand new model that is guaranteed not to have the same problem. And this time, they really mean it.
Where did you get that info? Can you post link or source. Thank you
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Oh, and this is not unsafe at all. Give me a break about the "I was scared" crap. I owned one of the first 335is in the country, build date of June '06, and I had a failure while on the highway and I was never "scared". It simply went into limp mode, I pulled into the right lane and got home slowly but safely.

Love this drama crap....

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what a short sighted remark! i live in johannesburg, south africa and i have had this problem with the engine virtually shutting down, together with loss of power assist to the steering and brakes, intermittently for the past two years. Dealers seemed to have no idea what the problem was until last week when the problem recurred and they replaced the HPFP.

I wrote to BMW repeatedly over the past 18 months but my emails were basically ignored.

Anyway, johannesburg has some rather unsavoury areas and the gps often takes me through these areas. I have always been extremely nervous driving this car at night for fear of some sort of engine malfunction in the wrong part of town - i'd be a sitting duck for hijackers/robbers etc, especially if i had to pull over or switch the car off at a traffic light! i've never enjoyed my 135 because i never truly had peace of mind while driving the car after the engine problems surfaced. quite sad and deeply disappointing really.
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Shame on Good Morning America?

Dude, the fuel pump is flawed. Even with the recall, people are still going to get the same old fuel pump and will continue to have problems. Putting the issue in the public eye is a good thing. Lots of people who have had issues and replacements already probably don't even realize that the new pump could easily fail just like the original one in their cars. This will help educate the masses and maybe eventually BMW will be forced to address the issue properly.

Shame on BMW for not fixing this already, I say.
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      10-26-2010, 02:42 PM   #93
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They should also recall all E53 x5's and E46 with the "No Reverse" transmission failure
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      10-26-2010, 02:55 PM   #94
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Did they say that the full story is going to air tonight?

I have had my 2008 E92 335i FP replaced 6 times! I have also been caught in limp mode numerous times! That is just the short list of my problems. On the other hand, I have had several forum buddies that have had absolutely zero problems.

Anyway, I have an E92 M3 on order right now that BMW is selling me at cost because of all the issues that I have had. So, I guess you can say it all worked out for me in the end.
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I do not see what is different then has already been offered by BMW?

To me this gives the appearance of something being done...

How recent is the 933 pump and will that make a difference?
Let alone the fact that many owners on this forum have had other
related issues, let alone the wastegate.

Come on, why did BMW come out with the N55 engine? In part because of
issues with the N54.

Not true. N55 came out because it gets better economy and fewer emissions and is also probably less expensive to produce. The basic motor is the same.
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They should also recall all E53 x5's and E46 with the "No Reverse" transmission failure
OMG, I got that twice in my E46, got rid of it after having to pay out of pocket for the last failure. $6K total. POS tranny.

Oh I have screaming sqeaky brakes and rattle-snake or cans being dragged behind the car. I went in for service they said they can't hear the brakes WTF? That shiat is loud as hell. Literally screeching as I go down the floors of my underground garage. I will video tape it and show them the video so they can stop denying it. And the wastegate rattle? I gave up on that. They replaced them, but it soon came back. Car sounds worse than a Kia costing 1/3 the price. Awesome car, but some really annoying ridiculous issues a car at this price point should never have. Good ABC is smacking them.... now lets publicize the wastegate rattles and brakes please. I am sick of BMW refusing to do anything claiming there is no problem or its "normal".
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What about N55 engines... we are having the same issue... well this is a good first step... I hope in the right direction...
N55 = N54 only with a single twin scroll Turbo and modified software. Uses same crappy pumps and even a few people with N55 are also having waste-gates rattle just like they do on N54s. I got warranty on fuel pump extended to 100K miles by BMW proactively. And Yes, me like most other folks have had a failure. I'd much rather prefer they fix the issue once and for all rather than a guarantee via warranty to fix failures for free.
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Shame on Good Morning America?

Dude, the fuel pump is flawed. Even with the recall, people are still going to get the same old fuel pump and will continue to have problems. Putting the issue in the public eye is a good thing. Lots of people who have had issues and replacements already probably don't even realize that the new pump could easily fail just like the original one in their cars. This will help educate the masses and maybe eventually BMW will be forced to address the issue properly.

Shame on BMW for not fixing this already, I say.
I must be getting to realistic in my older age. Most of the general public can give a rats ass about this especially since it is a "BMW" Did the public care about Toyota's woes that were blown out of proportion? Nope, Toyota is doing just fine. This will not harm BMW in any way shape or form. Have a car brake is part of owning a car. I get a car to drive when I bring it in, car is fixed and pick it up. Pump is covered for 10 years and I expect it to brake. Lets be realistic here. I have more issues with my 09 X5 than to worry about this fuel pump issue that they will figure out sooner or later.
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Oh, and this is not unsafe at all. Give me a break about the "I was scared" crap. I owned one of the first 335is in the country, build date of June '06, and I had a failure while on the highway and I was never "scared". It simply went into limp mode, I pulled into the right lane and got home slowly but safely.

Love this drama crap....

Cheers,
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While I'm not a dramatic person, I had my fuel pump fail on me while turning onto a main road. The car died on me and it took several attempts to start the car (which immediately went into limp mode). That main road is usually very busy but thankfully it wasn't. So if I were to have my car die in the middle of lots of traffic, I don't think it would have been drama for me to panic when a bunch of cars are heading towards me.
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N55 = N54 only with a single twin scroll Turbo and modified software. Uses same crappy pumps and even a few people with N55 are also having waste-gates rattle just like they do on N54s. I got warranty on fuel pump extended to 100K miles by BMW proactively. And Yes, me like most other folks have had a failure. I'd much rather prefer they fix the issue once and for all rather than a guarantee via warranty to fix failures for free.
The N55 has Valvetronic, the N54 doesn't.
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can anyone please direct me to info on the problems people have had with the X5?

The lease just ended last friday on my 08 e92 335xi, so this saga is behind me after 2 HPFP replacements, all 6 fuel injectors, spark plugs, and numerous software upgrades. I had been thinking about an x6, but I wanted to avoid bmw turbo engines until this is sorted out, so i went elsewhere.

However, my mother has a 2008 x5 v6. I didn't realize there were issues with that engine and I'd like to be able to get her some info...thanks!

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The only thing that we don't know about is if BMW decided to put an end to this HPFP fiasco by offering the 120k warranty and 10 years. What this told me is that they were done with designing new fuel pumps and they were just going to go with whatever they have and keep replacing them for as long as we owned our cars. That was probably their "fix."

At least this recall will hopefully force them back to the drawing board and actually design a fuel pump that works in a proper way. But then again it might not. Don't kid yourselves guys, they made a lot of pumps that are on the shelves and they need to go into somebody's car, they're not just getting thrown out, and they are all still ticking time bombs. They have their priorities straight as any big corporation.

Here's their agenda.

1. Profit
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1,000,000. Everything else.........
1,000,001. Recall on Hpfp


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I saw the snippet and amazed at the BMW executive claiming limp mode is safe. How about we rig a remote setup to his BMW that allows me to trigger limp mode on his car at my will. Or his child's or wife's BMW.

Hey, limp mode is safe right? I am sure he won't object to that. Having random limp mode is exactly that, it's may fail at the least convenient time. Love to see him walk the walk.
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I saw the snippet and amazed at the BMW executive claiming limp mode is safe. How about we rig a remote setup to his BMW that allows me to trigger limp mode on his car at my will. Or his child's or wife's BMW.

Hey, limp mode is safe right? I am sure he won't object to that. Having random limp mode is exactly that, it's may fail at the least convenient time. Love to see him walk the walk.
i like his quote (from nytimes article):

“When the high pressure pump fails completely it is driveable under less power. It is essentially a pretty good driving mode. It reduces the power.”

limp mode is a "pretty good" driving mode?? really?
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This has been blown WAY out of proportion by greedy lawyers and the media. I'd be willing to wager that there is not even a single physical injury caused by this? BMW has been honoring the warranty and has been paying for the repairs since this whole time, and have gone beyond by extending the warranty. That is already more than they are offering in other countries. What a bunch of litigious bitches we are.
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All of the owners who have not complained have not done so because they don't have a problem. Think about it. This is just a law firm drumming up business. BMW's press release is to just appease the complainers. They probably had this response ready to go a year ago. It should be shame on Good Morning America.
You're missing the point... now those who did not complain are eligible for a new HPFP (in most cases if they have one prior to March 2010 production) or atleast BMW taking a look at their cars. This cost $$$ to BMW. They did not issue the recall till now cuz it made business sense.... now when their reputation is at stake and toyota was publically crucified, they dont want to take the risk.

Its a shame on BMW for taking this long to do the right thing... I'm glad that GMA did a story and got a reaction out of them.
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haha! Fuel pump gave out on me Saturday night!
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      10-26-2010, 03:51 PM   #109
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In the obvious moves department, BMW is about 4 years late. . lol
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