Why are the BBK kits so expensive?

picus · 02-02-2007, 08:28 PM

Those wheels are amazing.

SV Concepts · 02-02-2007, 09:26 PM

Thank you! Want a set?

JL

picus · 02-02-2007, 09:34 PM

Haha, always the salesman.

I've got a set of S-20's on the way. I didn't hear back about that BBK though. Shoot me an e-mail.

SV Concepts · 02-02-2007, 10:10 PM

Can you please call 1.888.JLEVISW for a quote?

JL

///Matt · 02-03-2007, 03:15 AM

Guys, just so you know, every OEM BMW Brake caliper has a piston/pistons ONLY on the INSIDE of the rotor. I may be wrong, but if I am, it's only on new M cars, or very old cars.

They use what is called a "floating" caliper setup. The single or dual piston (on X5's, only, if I recall correctly) only pushes on ONE side of the rotor. The caliper is on a pair of slides, and as pressure is applied to the inside of the rotor, the outside pad is pulled in towards the rotor, thereby applying the brakes.

In my opinion (and Brembo's, and Wilwood's, and Rotora's, and Stoptech's, etc etc) it's better to have a piston of EACH side of the rotor, but hey. Those crazy Bavarians over in Munich haven't led me wrong yet. My brakes work well enough.

However:

I'm a VERY aggressive driver, and I make it a point to hit my plethora of local awesome canyons every weekend, and sometimes in the week. My brakes get BEAT up. Our brakes do experience some intense fade. I'm not feeling all that safe on my brakes lately, in the canyon's. I'm probably going to pony up for a front BBK.

SV Concepts · 02-03-2007, 09:13 PM

Now is the time - we're selling one kit at a ridiculously low price.
JL

sdiver68 · 02-04-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Matt

However:

I'm a VERY aggressive driver, and I make it a point to hit my plethora of local awesome canyons every weekend, and sometimes in the week. My brakes get BEAT up. Our brakes do experience some intense fade. I'm not feeling all that safe on my brakes lately, in the canyon's. I'm probably going to pony up for a front BBK.

1 word of caution, anyone considering aftermarket brakes would do well to read about Car and Driver's experience with doing so on their endurance race prepped 335d. March 07, pg 84.

Also, a significant amount of brake fade is due to the rubber brake lines expanding with heat. Try SS brake lines.

Ps I'm not against the idea of BBK. I just want to find the answers.

eninetytwo · 02-04-2007, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlevi SW

I drive an old hunk of junk with Ugly 3 Stage Paint

[GRAMPA STORY]
Back in my day, BMW 3 Series cars didn't come with forced induction. We had to make them forced induction ourselves! You kids these days with your 335's... you've got it good![/GRAMPA STORY]
JL

off topic...what rims u got?

///Matt · 02-04-2007, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdiver68

1 word of caution, anyone considering aftermarket brakes would do well to read about Car and Driver's experience with doing so on their endurance race prepped 335d. March 07, pg 84.

Also, a significant amount of brake fade is due to the rubber brake lines expanding with heat. Try SS brake lines.

Ps I'm not against the idea of BBK. I just want to find the answers.

That's wonderful advise. Thank you! I'm going to upgrade to ss lines before I drop the bomb on a BBK.

Matt

S4to335 · 02-04-2007, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlevi SW

I drive an old hunk of junk with Ugly 3 Stage Paint

[GRAMPA STORY]
Back in my day, BMW 3 Series cars didn't come with forced induction. We had to make them forced induction ourselves! You kids these days with your 335's... you've got it good![/GRAMPA STORY]
JL

Hey, did you get those Status seats from Josh?

SV Concepts · 02-04-2007, 07:42 PM

My wheels are DPE R20's - Contact us for pricing. You can view retail pricing on our site - we give 15% off.

My status seats are new - We are an authorized retailer for STATUS racing. You can order them on our website - there is a discount code.

S4to335 · 02-04-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlevi SW

My wheels are DPE R20's - Contact us for pricing. You can view retail pricing on our site - we give 15% off.

My status seats are new - We are an authorized retailer for STATUS racing. You can order them on our website - there is a discount code.

No, I was thinking that you purchased them from Josh at Status Racing. I know Josh (use to be from ACHTuning).

SV Concepts · 02-05-2007, 03:39 PM

Gotcha

///Matt - You know that Brembo's come with SS lines, right?

If you're eventually going to do a BBK, then why spend that money twice?

eninetytwo - DPE R20's - We sell them, so tell us if you need a set.

S4 - No sir

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///Matt United States Marine 71 Rep 2,749 Posts Drives: 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (8) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Guys, just so you know, every OEM BMW Brake caliper has a piston/pistons ONLY on the INSIDE of the rotor. I may be wrong, but if I am, it's only on new M cars, or very old cars. They use what is called a "floating" caliper setup. The single or dual piston (on X5's, only, if I recall correctly) only pushes on ONE side of the rotor. The caliper is on a pair of slides, and as pressure is applied to the inside of the rotor, the outside pad is pulled in towards the rotor, thereby applying the brakes. In my opinion (and Brembo's, and Wilwood's, and Rotora's, and Stoptech's, etc etc) it's better to have a piston of EACH side of the rotor, but hey. Those crazy Bavarians over in Munich haven't led me wrong yet. My brakes work well enough. However: I'm a VERY aggressive driver, and I make it a point to hit my plethora of local awesome canyons every weekend, and sometimes in the week. My brakes get BEAT up. Our brakes do experience some intense fade. I'm not feeling all that safe on my brakes lately, in the canyon's. I'm probably going to pony up for a front BBK.
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SV Concepts 171 Rep 5,869 Posts Drives: Vorsteiner E60 M5 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 1460 White Oaks Rd. Suite F. Campbell, CA 95008 iTrader: (10)	My wheels are DPE R20's - Contact us for pricing. You can view retail pricing on our site - we give 15% off. My status seats are new - We are an authorized retailer for STATUS racing. You can order them on our website - there is a discount code.
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SV Concepts 171 Rep 5,869 Posts Drives: Vorsteiner E60 M5 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 1460 White Oaks Rd. Suite F. Campbell, CA 95008 iTrader: (10)	Gotcha ///Matt - You know that Brembo's come with SS lines, right? If you're eventually going to do a BBK, then why spend that money twice? eninetytwo - DPE R20's - We sell them, so tell us if you need a set. S4 - No sir
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