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onebadmofo · 03-10-2011, 01:34 PM

Guys, if you got INPA then connect to the Alarm module, go to Activate and see if you can turn on the LED at all.
I think the infrared module that goes in the roof has the actual logic for the LED.

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spera23

I have something that looks likt LICHT_AN_LED which translates to LED light. Wonder what it could be...

Interesting. I would like to try these and see what they do:

LED_BLINKER_HINTEN

LED_BLINKER_VORNE

TIPP_BLK

SM_FKT_ZUSATZBLINKER

spera23 · 03-10-2011, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebadmofo

Guys, if you got INPA then connect to the Alarm module, go to Activate and see if you can turn on the LED at all.
I think the infrared module that goes in the roof has the actual logic for the LED.

We are trying to figure out if it is possible to turn the Clown Nose on without actually having the alarm module...

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebadmofo

Guys, if you got INPA then connect to the Alarm module, go to Activate and see if you can turn on the LED at all.
I think the infrared module that goes in the roof has the actual logic for the LED.

Tried that and INPA won't read the alarm since its not actually there.

I know in older cars you could activate the clown nose at the dealer without having the alarm. We were hoping you could do this with NCS on newer cars.

onebadmofo · 03-10-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spera23

We are trying to figure out if it is possible to turn the Clown Nose on without actually having the alarm module...

Exactly, and I'm telling you to check if it's even possible to turn on the LED without the alarm module.

Wait, you won't be able to connect to the alarm module if you don't have one. I see now, can't argue with that

spera23 · 03-10-2011, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubdom

Interesting. I would like to try these and see what they do:

LED_BLINKER_HINTEN

LED_BLINKER_VORNE

TIPP_BLK

SM_FKT_ZUSATZBLINKER

The only one I have is TIPP_BLK.....do you have the other 3 to try?

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spera23

The only one I have is TIPP_BLK.....do you have the other 3 to try?

Yeah I do. I can try them when I get out of work later tonight.

I read in some other forums that dealers were activating the alarm with SSS and "unchecking DWS" and this would activate the clown nose, and visual blinkers when locking and unlocking (I already have that option).

Seems like this should be possible since all the hardware is there but its probably some obscure value somewhere.

spera23 · 03-10-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubdom

Yeah I do. I can try them when I get out of work later tonight.

I read in some other forums that dealers were activating the alarm with SSS and "unchecking DWS" and this would activate the clown nose, and visual blinkers when locking and unlocking (I already have that option).

Seems like this should be possible since all the hardware is there but its probably some obscure value somewhere.

I will try out a couple other ones and report back. I think your right, the hardware seems to be all there, just a matter of activating it.

Do you have a link to the other forum where there were mentioning the DWS?

NiVeDh · 03-10-2011, 01:51 PM

FWIW, the clown nose blinks when the alarm is armed if you physically install the alarm, even without coding your car. The only things coding $302 to the VO got me were the acoustic options. I'm interested in this though.

Mike Benvo · 03-10-2011, 02:00 PM

You guys *might* want to try coding "+K302" instead of "$302".

Maybe there is a difference between how the car handles factory VO options and the way that the retrofits work. As an example - I coded my car for the alarm using a Special Service Station (BMW), and this is my VO (08 E90 M3 6sp):

E90_#1207&NDSW%0A73*VA93$223$2MD$2MT$2VB$313$319$3 22$3AP$403$415$417$431$441$459$465$490$494$4AE$4MY $4NA$502$507$521$522$524$534$540$563$5DC$609$620$6 39$645$653$655$694$6FL$6UH$752$760$775$818$845$853 $876$925$999$877$601$704-A090+K302+NSBK

You can see that +K302 was added toward the bottom, NOT $302.

Here is a look at a VO from a 2011 car with CIC, that had the alarm installed from the factory ('11 E90 M3 DCT):
E90_#0609&NDH2%0A52*PM93$1CA$223$2MD$2MK$2MT$2VB$302$313$319$322$403$415$417$431$441$459$465$490$494$4 97$4AE$4MY$4NA$502$507$521$522$524$534$540$563$5DC $609$615$620$639$645$653$693$697$6AA$6AB$6FL$6UH$7 52$760$775$845$853$876$925-A090

You can see that in this case it's coded as $302.

Also compared VO's to see if there is ANY difference at all with cars that have LED's vs cars that don't. Could not find anything at all related to the VO pertaining to LED's. The majority of my VO matches exactly, differences being the car color/interior, the transmission, and stuff for CIC vs CCC.

Try adding +K302. I don't think that it will do the trick, but it might. It depends on how the car uses the VO internally to enable/disable functions.

onebadmofo - whats the deal with your post in my other thread?

Showsol2211 · 03-10-2011, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiVeDh

FWIW, the clown nose blinks when the alarm is armed if you physically install the alarm, even without coding your car. The only things coding $302 to the VO got me were the acoustic options. I'm interested in this though.

did you have to adjust the volume of your chirp? Mine is really faint and I actually have to listen to hear it unlike a normal lock confirmation.

spera23 · 03-10-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiVeDh

FWIW, the clown nose blinks when the alarm is armed if you physically install the alarm, even without coding your car. The only things coding $302 to the VO got me were the acoustic options. I'm interested in this though.

Hmmm, if the clown nose just automatically starts to blink once the module is installed without any coding of values or changing the VO, im guessing the clown nose is coded to flash on all cars, but it PHYSICALLY needs the hardware (alarm module) to make it light up.

txusa03 · 03-10-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showsol2211

did you have to adjust the volume of your chirp? Mine is really faint and I actually have to listen to hear it unlike a normal lock confirmation.

here you go, it is buried in this thread. I only found 3 options, no sound, faint sound, louder than faint sound...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1537

Showsol2211 · 03-10-2011, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txusa03

here you go, it is buried in this thread. I only found 3 options, no sound, faint sound, louder than faint sound...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1537

Thats exactly what I wanted to see!! Thank you. I am hoping to get my cable sometime next week. I am not sure how long everyone had to wait for theirs. I ordered it early last week and I am hoping to get it next week.

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spera23

Hmmm, if the clown nose just automatically starts to blink once the module is installed without any coding of values or changing the VO, im guessing the clown nose is coded to flash on all cars, but it PHYSICALLY needs the hardware (alarm module) to make it light up.

I am thinking the same thing. Hope this is not the case. I'll keep trying.

spera23 · 03-10-2011, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubdom

I am thinking the same thing. Hope this is not the case. I'll keep trying.

I tried out:

LICHT_AN_LED
TIPP_BLK
QUITT_BLK_ENTSICHERN
QUITT_BLK_SICHERN

No luck on any of them.

This does seem like it would be the case that we need the hardware, but then again you said you saw it being done without it on another forum, right?

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spera23

I tried out:

LICHT_AN_LED
TIPP_BLK
QUITT_BLK_ENTSICHERN
QUITT_BLK_SICHERN

No luck on any of them.

This does seem like it would be the case that we need the hardware, but then again you said you saw it being done without it on another forum, right?

I did see it being done at the dealer with older cars (pre 06) using SSS (progman) on other forums. Maybe they changed it and now you need the hardware.

outie · 03-10-2011, 03:45 PM

AFAIK alarm is not pre-wired for the LCIs which may explain this.

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outie

AFAIK alarm is not pre-wired for the LCIs which may explain this.

I have a Pre-LCI and it is pre-wired.

shockin330i · 03-10-2011, 03:54 PM

Wow, i need to read all the pages now

BrynDN · 03-10-2011, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spera23

I tried out:

LICHT_AN_LED
TIPP_BLK
QUITT_BLK_ENTSICHERN
QUITT_BLK_SICHERN

No luck on any of them.

This does seem like it would be the case that we need the hardware, but then again you said you saw it being done without it on another forum, right?

I noticed one from my 09 LCI E90.
WARNBLK ENERGY SAVE MODE
it's active by default on my vehicle

Wondering what that is. Not likely related, but sounds interesting...

EDIT: Probably related to Hazards, so nevermind.

rubdom · 03-10-2011, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrynDN

I noticed one from my 09 LCI E90.
WARNBLK ENERGY SAVE MODE

Wondering what that is. Not likely related, but sounds interesting...

EDIT: Probably related to Hazards, so nevermind.

I have this option and it is active.

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Mike Benvo www.BPMSport.com Drives: BPMSport M3 / 7 Series Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,212 iTrader: (6)	You guys might want to try coding "+K302" instead of "$302". Maybe there is a difference between how the car handles factory VO options and the way that the retrofits work. As an example - I coded my car for the alarm using a Special Service Station (BMW), and this is my VO (08 E90 M3 6sp): E90_#1207&NDSW%0A73VA93$223$2MD$2MT$2VB$313$319$3 22$3AP$403$415$417$431$441$459$465$490$494$4AE$4MY $4NA$502$507$521$522$524$534$540$563$5DC$609$620$6 39$645$653$655$694$6FL$6UH$752$760$775$818$845$853 $876$925$999$877$601$704-A090+K302+NSBK You can see that +K302 was added toward the bottom, NOT $302. Here is a look at a VO from a 2011 car with CIC, that had the alarm installed from the factory ('11 E90 M3 DCT): E90_#0609&NDH2%0A52PM93$1CA$223$2MD$2MK$2MT$2VB$302$313$319$322$403$415$417$431$441$459$465$490$494$4 97$4AE$4MY$4NA$502$507$521$522$524$534$540$563$5DC $609$615$620$639$645$653$693$697$6AA$6AB$6FL$6UH$7 52$760$775$845$853$876$925-A090 You can see that in this case it's coded as $302. Also compared VO's to see if there is ANY difference at all with cars that have LED's vs cars that don't. Could not find anything at all related to the VO pertaining to LED's. The majority of my VO matches exactly, differences being the car color/interior, the transmission, and stuff for CIC vs CCC. Try adding +K302. I don't think that it will do the trick, but it might. It depends on how the car uses the VO internally to enable/disable functions. onebadmofo - whats the deal with your post in my other thread? __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----

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NiVeDh Major General Drives: '08 E90 335i 6MT BSM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Atlanta / Lawrenceville, GA Posts: 8,020 iTrader: (131) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i Sedan [4.46]	FWIW, the clown nose blinks when the alarm is armed if you physically install the alarm, even without coding your car. The only things coding $302 to the VO got me were the acoustic options. I'm interested in this though.