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      11-05-2010, 03:36 PM   #1
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FEELER: Vanguard setup for e90 335i

I am planning on getting a Vanguard cat-back with AR catless DPs. Anybody have this setup on an e90? Or with stock DPs? Will it smell? Or be really loud? Heard some sound clips on youtube which sound good but I can't tell if they have stock DPs or not.

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Im running it on my e92 with catless downpipes for about 200 miles so far...Just it does smell but not enoughto bother me unless im standing right behind the car...The sound is amazing but everyone has there preference...Mine isnt even broken in yet and i dont think it is crazy loud until i go full throttle
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i'm running Vanguard + ar design catless downpipes. Smell is nothing you should worry about unless you drive around with all four windows down. Loudness...it's loud @ WOT but when you are just cruising, it is very tolerable. Sounds really really good. I love it
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thanks for the info...nice ride! do u think it's a good idea to get the vanguard installed first without the catless DPs? i was thinking it would give me a chance to test out the sound and see if i like it and if i want to go a little louder. it's an inner struggle between performance and trying to keep the car civil lol
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thanks for the info...nice ride! do u think it's a good idea to get the vanguard installed first without the catless DPs? i was thinking it would give me a chance to test out the sound and see if i like it and if i want to go a little louder. it's an inner struggle between performance and trying to keep the car civil lol
Believe me its loud my neighbors all hate me now lol i have catless macht dps and the vanguard. You can hear me from ten blocks away. Its a little to loud for my liking esp on cold startup on a cold day but you get used to it. although my neighbors havent yet lol
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Believe me its loud my neighbors all hate me now lol i have catless macht dps and the vanguard. You can hear me from ten blocks away. Its a little to loud for my liking esp on cold startup on a cold day but you get used to it. although my neighbors havent yet lol
I agree , its too loud for my taste with catless downpipes. Starting up the car in the midlle of the night sure does wake all the neighbors. I personally would like it a litlle less loud on cruising. Maybe it sounds better on a MT , but on a AT it can make some weird sounds during shifting.
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Believe me its loud my neighbors all hate me now lol i have catless macht dps and the vanguard. You can hear me from ten blocks away. Its a little to loud for my liking esp on cold startup on a cold day but you get used to it. although my neighbors havent yet lol
Wow, its really that loud? I thought it would just be loud on WOT. If it wasnt a DD that would be awesome!
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I agree , its too loud for my taste with catless downpipes. Starting up the car in the midlle of the night sure does wake all the neighbors. I personally would like it a litlle less loud on cruising. Maybe it sounds better on a MT , but on a AT it can make some weird sounds during shifting.
What you mean by "weird sounds" its probably not the exhaust.
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What you mean by "weird sounds" its probably not the exhaust.
it makes like some crazy gurgling backfire sounds. my friends all love it but they all drive mazda speeds and subies evos, so they like that loud annoying crap. Just go AE. im going to add some vibrant resonators and see where that gets me. its going to be way to loud when its ten degrees out damn cat warmup when it revs to over 1000 rpm
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it makes like some crazy gurgling backfire sounds. my friends all love it but they all drive mazda speeds and subies evos, so they like that loud annoying crap. Just go AE. im going to add some vibrant resonators and see where that gets me. its going to be way to loud when its ten degrees out damn cat warmup when it revs to over 1000 rpm
Yea, I could see that getting really annoying after a while.
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What you mean by "weird sounds" its probably not the exhaust.
Its mostly when the car isn't fully warmed up , and you let the car shift slowly by itself. Sounds very ricy then.

Once the car is properly warmed up , the sound is better , this probably due to the wastegates closing completely.

When you push it , it sounds more like a WWII Spitfire plane.
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anybody running catted DPs with their Vanguard? Maybe that's a better option for controlling sound?
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Get the catless downpipes..my girl isnt into performance cars and doesnt know anything about them. But after she heard the vanguard with catless she said your car sounds like sex...Just cruising it is very very tolerable...floor it and it sounds amazing..what a car should sound like when your reving up twins snails
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i also just ordered an AFE DCI....that should add a little grunt when in hit the throttle too
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Get the catless downpipes..my girl isnt into performance cars and doesnt know anything about them. But after she heard the vanguard with catless she said your car sounds like sex...Just cruising it is very very tolerable...floor it and it sounds amazing..what a car should sound like when your reving up twins snails
Your car sounds like sex?
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Can anyone give me more feedback on how bad it smells fully catless?

I got the AR Dps and AE exhaust for an e92...Im not sure if i should go ahead and order some HFCs or run it full catless..the smell does worry me
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You shouldn't be too concerned with the smell. I only catch a whiff of it from time to time with the windows down. And with it being cold and windy here the windows are always up.


I've noticed that Vanguard and cat less dps on a 6MT car are a bit quieter than on an AT equipped vehicle.
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You shouldn't be too concerned with the smell. I only catch a whiff of it from time to time with the windows down. And with it being cold and windy here the windows are always up.


I've noticed that Vanguard and cat less dps on a 6MT car are a bit quieter than on an AT equipped vehicle.
I dunno, I ran catless and it would stink like hell when I got off the throttle as I was slowing down (consistently) whether or not the windows were up or down.
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it makes like some crazy gurgling backfire sounds. my friends all love it but they all drive mazda speeds and subies evos, so they like that loud annoying crap. Just go AE. im going to add some vibrant resonators and see where that gets me. its going to be way to loud when its ten degrees out damn cat warmup when it revs to over 1000 rpm
yes, mine for sure does that, but I that's what I also love about the Vanguard......Running it with cl dps.

It does that when you let the car naturally wind down the rpms.
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I have the vanguard and aa downpipes. You def can smell the catless at the light . Once the car warms up it'd not that loud . However my car always set off the neighbor car alarm every morning
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