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      11-05-2010, 04:58 PM   #1
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Question Is there a E90 transmission pan replcement DIY?

Just curious if there is a DIY on replacing the tranny pan for an 06 330i. Searched and only found a DIY on tranny fluid change. I am looking to replace the tranny pan and gasket, as well as a fluid change.

This would be very helpful, thanks.
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Are you experiencing a leak? If so it could possibly be the Mechtronic Sleeve. Seems to be a common problem on the 330i. Just had mine repaired on my 330i (w/36,000 miles) under warranty. The dealer replaced the Sleeve, Pan Gasket, some Miscellaneous Hardware, and the Fluid. The pan itself was not replaced. The paperwork referenced SIB240806.

Thought I would mention this, maybe this could get the repair done under warranty?
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Are you experiencing a leak? If so it could possibly be the Mechtronic Sleeve. Seems to be a common problem on the 330i. Just had mine repaired on my 330i (w/36,000 miles) under warranty. The dealer replaced the Sleeve, Pan Gasket, some Miscellaneous Hardware, and the Fluid. The pan itself was not replaced. The paperwork referenced SIB240806.

Thought I would mention this, maybe this could get the repair done under warranty?
Thanks for your post - Is your bimmer still under factory 4 yr warranty, or is it CPO?

Do you have the part #'s they replaced?

Mine is just out of warranty so no love from the dealers
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When I bought my CPO last year one week later I had this exact same thing happen to me. Wonder how they did their inspection since a week later transmission fluid was all over my garage. They fixed it under warranty but did not use all new fluid. I was a little upset that they reused what they drained and topped it off with new fluid. Not sure how they can say what they drained did not get contaminated. They said this is how BMW says to do it.


So it has been almost a year and I have no issues. I had 42k on the car when my leaked.


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Are you experiencing a leak? If so it could possibly be the Mechtronic Sleeve. Seems to be a common problem on the 330i. Just had mine repaired on my 330i (w/36,000 miles) under warranty. The dealer replaced the Sleeve, Pan Gasket, some Miscellaneous Hardware, and the Fluid. The pan itself was not replaced. The paperwork referenced SIB240806.

Thought I would mention this, maybe this could get the repair done under warranty?
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Thanks for your post - Is your bimmer still under factory 4 yr warranty, or is it CPO?

Do you have the part #'s they replaced?

Mine is just out of warranty so no love from the dealers
Mine leaked just before the 4yr warranty run out (literally 2 weeks)
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Cause: SIB240806
2434531 Replace Transmission Mechtronic Sleeve

24 24-11-7-552-108 Torx Screw
1 24-11-7-571-235 Gasket, Oil Pan
1 24-34-7-588-725 Sealing Sleeve
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When I bought my CPO last year one week later I had this exact same thing happen to me. Wonder how they did their inspection since a week later transmission fluid was all over my garage. They fixed it under warranty but did not use all new fluid. I was a little upset that they reused what they drained and topped it off with new fluid. Not sure how they can say what they drained did not get contaminated. They said this is how BMW says to do it.


So it has been almost a year and I have no issues. I had 42k on the car when my leaked.
I had taken mine into the dealer (approx 160 mile round trip) for a rear window issue. They had to order the rear window which took a week to come in. My car sat for a week in my garage without being driven. Backed out of the garage for the return trip to the dealer to have the rear window replaced and found a puddle of oil on the floor. No indications or drops of oil prior.

I always try to ask the dealer prior to them starting any work to explain in detail to what they are performing.That way if I disagree or feel that they should repair in a way that satisfies me.
I will offer to pay for the extras, such as all new fluid in this case, to satisfy my mind that the repair was done to my expectations.
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Believe me if I knew they were reusing oil I would have paid for the new stuff as well. Who would have thought they would reuse.

For anyone else that enounters this make sure you get all the oil replaced.


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I had taken mine into the dealer (approx 160 mile round trip) for a rear window issue. They had to order the rear window which took a week to come in. My car sat for a week in my garage without being driven. Backed out of the garage for the return trip to the dealer to have the rear window replaced and found a puddle of oil on the floor. No indications or drops of oil prior.

I always try to ask the dealer prior to them starting any work to explain in detail to what they are performing.That way if I disagree or feel that they should repair in a way that satisfies me.
I will offer to pay for the extras, such as all new fluid in this case, to satisfy my mind that the repair was done to my expectations.
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^ WOW reusing oil!!!! What a bunch of %$#@^
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Yes and I was pretty upset. I actually called BMW North America and complained but they informed me that is how they do it.

Like I mentioned earlier if I knew they were going to do that I would have requested new fluid and paid the difference. That never crossed my mind.

This is to BMW for reusing the fluid

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Found my invoice. You will see they added .5 liters of fluid. That is what made me concerned. Not replaced but added. BMW Corporation are cheap a$$ in my opinion. How much money would it have cost them to replace all the fluid? They do this so your transmission will fail earlier so they will get more money out of you in the long run. That is what I believe.
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Where is the new transmission filter or did they re use that too. Shady.
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You might want to get a copy of that SIB. Some TSB's (technical service bulletin - which is what an SIB is) are often called "hidden warranties" as they discuss how the repair should be handled outside of warranty.

In addition, you can call BMWNA and ask them if they will do a goodwill repair if the SIB does not mention out of warranty repairs.

Accordingly, your first step is to get a copy of the full SIB.Once you have that, come back here and give us specifics about your warranty - are you out of both miles and time? Time only? Miles only? That may be important to determine strategy with BMWNA.
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They reused that too. The filter is built into the pan, sucks doesn't it?

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Haven't dealt with a ZF transmission in my Passat, I plan to change the filter/fulid next weekend..Far as I know the tranny has no temp sensor making it a bit more complicated.( A infrared temp gun, is recommended) According to my Bentley the tranny fluid can only be filled between 86-120F (Best Results, at check at 85F) using Shell M-1375.4 for ZF tranny's. 10qt are required for a with the torque converter drained (If not draining torque converter, measure fluid removed and replace with same amount. Cheapest place I found for the pan/filter is

http://www.rmeuropean.com/Part-Numbe..._CE04B7F6.aspx.

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E90-330...ission/ES1087/
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You might want to get a copy of that SIB. Some TSB's (technical service bulletin - which is what an SIB is) are often called "hidden warranties" as they discuss how the repair should be handled outside of warranty.

In addition, you can call BMWNA and ask them if they will do a goodwill repair if the SIB does not mention out of warranty repairs.

Accordingly, your first step is to get a copy of the full SIB.Once you have that, come back here and give us specifics about your warranty - are you out of both miles and time? Time only? Miles only? That may be important to determine strategy with BMWNA.
This is very interesting. I just purchased my 330i in August, but the car had it's fast and free inspection 5 days before it went out of warranty on 5/25/10, the in service date is 5/30/06 so the warranty expired 5/30/10. It had 42,589 miles when it had the inspection. It has 45,000 now. During the inspection, they noted it needs new rear tires, and they also noted SEEPAGE at the tranny pan, but DID NOT perform the job, even though the car was still under warranty for another 5 days.

Now they estimated $700 to fix it. Does anyone have a copy of the SIB 240806?

As I stated above, the warranty is 4-year 50,000 miles. The warranty expired 5/30/06 and my car has 45,000 miles right now. I am out of time on the warranty, but not over miles.

Please help me with a strategy when contacting BMWNA. I do not want to have to pay $700 for something they should have done under warranty when they found the problem. I know the previous owner would not have told them to skip this work, but if they asked, he may have mentioned to skip the tire replacement only.

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This is very interesting. I just purchased my 330i in August, but the car had it's fast and free inspection 5 days before it went out of warranty on 5/25/10, the in service date is 5/30/06 so the warranty expired 5/30/10. It had 42,589 miles when it had the inspection. It has 45,000 now. During the inspection, they noted it needs new rear tires, and they also noted SEEPAGE at the tranny pan, but DID NOT perform the job, even though the car was still under warranty for another 5 days.

Now they estimated $700 to fix it. Does anyone have a copy of the SIB 240806?

As I stated above, the warranty is 4-year 50,000 miles. The warranty expired 5/30/06 and my car has 45,000 miles right now. I am out of time on the warranty, but not over miles.

Please help me with a strategy when contacting BMWNA. I do not want to have to pay $700 for something they should have done under warranty when they found the problem. I know the previous owner would not have told them to skip this work, but if they asked, he may have mentioned to skip the tire replacement only.

You answered your own question, submit a letter to BMWNA and attach a copy of that invoice to see if they will change it as a "good will" repair.
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Will do, this is what I assumed. But I thought I should get all the advice I could before doing anything.

Anyone else have any other advice to add. It would truly be appreciated. Thanks
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Will do, this is what I assumed. But I thought I should get all the advice I could before doing anything.

Anyone else have any other advice to add. It would truly be appreciated. Thanks
You may want to cite and attach this to your letter.

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To obtain service under this warranty, the
vehicle must be brought, upon discovery of a
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either repair or replace the defective part(s)
using new or authorized remanufactured
parts." See page 32

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This is very interesting. I just purchased my 330i in August, but the car had it's fast and free inspection 5 days before it went out of warranty on 5/25/10, the in service date is 5/30/06 so the warranty expired 5/30/10. It had 42,589 miles when it had the inspection. It has 45,000 now. During the inspection, they noted it needs new rear tires, and they also noted SEEPAGE at the tranny pan, but DID NOT perform the job, even though the car was still under warranty for another 5 days.

Now they estimated $700 to fix it. Does anyone have a copy of the SIB 240806?

As I stated above, the warranty is 4-year 50,000 miles. The warranty expired 5/30/06 and my car has 45,000 miles right now. I am out of time on the warranty, but not over miles.

Please help me with a strategy when contacting BMWNA. I do not want to have to pay $700 for something they should have done under warranty when they found the problem. I know the previous owner would not have told them to skip this work, but if they asked, he may have mentioned to skip the tire replacement only.

You need to get a copy of the SIB. If you have a document from BMW indicating "seepage" while still under warranty then I believe that you have a good shot at getting BMW to pay for all or part of the repair - depending on the SIB.
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Thanks for everyone's help. Will update this post as things progress.

This is my plan:

Going to send a letter to BMWNA including the SIB document and citation from warranty manual as well as a copy of the invoice detailing they noted "seepage at tranny pan" during my warranty period. I assume they will contact me and let me know whether or not they will goodwill the repair.

Let me know if anyone has any further advice on what I should include. Also, I am not sure if 1) there is an email address for BMWNA and I should just email then and attach the document scans - or 2) if I should send them an actual letter with the documents included. Also does anyone know off the top of their head a mailing address that this letter should be sent to?

Thanks again for everyone's help! This is $700 I would rather not have to fork out - seems bogus they would not do the repair when they noticed the leak.
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Thanks for everyone's help. Will update this post as things progress.

This is my plan:

Going to send a letter to BMWNA including the SIB document and citation from warranty manual as well as a copy of the invoice detailing they noted "seepage at tranny pan" during my warranty period. I assume they will contact me and let me know whether or not they will goodwill the repair.

Let me know if anyone has any further advice on what I should include. Also, I am not sure if 1) there is an email address for BMWNA and I should just email then and attach the document scans - or 2) if I should send them an actual letter with the documents included. Also does anyone know off the top of their head a mailing address that this letter should be sent to?

Thanks again for everyone's help! This is $700 I would rather not have to fork out - seems bogus they would not do the repair when they noticed the leak.
The address is in the back of your owner's manual (mine is in the car at the dealer or I'd cite it.) A letter, registered/certified with return receipt is the best bet since you'll want to start a proper paper trail. In addition, a letter just makes you more serious.

Be very clear in your letter and don't use flowery language. Just say that BMW identified the leak before the warranty expired but did not fix it. Now it requires repair and you believe that it is a warranty item and ask them to repair it under warranty.
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Found the SIB, attached, let me know what you guys think.
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