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      11-08-2010, 08:15 AM   #1
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Cool BMW M3 E30 at the 1988 Manx rally stage. Awesome!

Beautiful piece of driving by Patrick Snijers at the 1988 Manx rally stage in a BMW M3 E30. The footage here shows Belgian rally star Patrick Snijers and co-driver Dany Colebunders scoring a legendary Rally Isle of Man victory in 1988. This drive is widely acknowledged as one of the great drives in British rallying history.


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      11-10-2010, 09:07 AM   #2
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great car control
good old E30
i miss mine 320is
this is also great
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this is driving.. i love this video, it has always been one of my favorite examples of good, understood driving. pure skill
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ahh that sound... pure sex, twin turbo!!
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      11-10-2010, 09:19 AM   #5
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Thumbs up for Belgian drivers!

Great drive, car and sound indeed...
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That is really awesome..I like how he flies over those little humps and keeps it under control! and those sharp turns...
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gotta love that car & his skills!
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Damn impressive driving!
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great video!
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i just....oh, oh, oh...OH.....yeah.....great vid!!!
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ahh that sound... pure sex, twin turbo!!
WTF? This car has no turbo's! It is a 2.5l 4cylinder capable of 340, NA of course!
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good stuff. love watching old rally video clips. thanks for sharing
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WTF? This car has no turbo's! It is a 2.5l 4cylinder capable of 340, NA of course!
The rally E30 M3's were built from the standard model not the Sport Evolution, so the engine was the 2.3, Prodrive's first engines produced 270hp, with later developements this rose to 285 and finally 295.
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The rally E30 M3's were built from the standard model not the Sport Evolution, so the engine was the 2.3, Prodrive's first engines produced 270hp, with later developements this rose to 285 and finally 295.
that could be, didn't know that in rally they didn't use the 2.5l. I just know the fastest / most powerful M3 E30 had the 2.5l capable of 340hp at the end and most importantly where NA and had no turbo's (that was the whole point of my comment )
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that could be, didn't know that in rally they didn't use the 2.5l. I just know the fastest / most powerful M3 E30 had the 2.5l capable of 340hp at the end and most importantly where NA and had no turbo's (that was the whole point of my comment )
The only 2.5 M3 was the Sport Evolution, BMW built 600 of them, these mainly raced in the DTM, the first racing M3's (standard, EVO 1 & EVO 2) were all 2.3's. Almost all other E30 M3's were 2.3's, except for some special (race only) 2.0 litre M3's which were developed for the BTCC.
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duhh!
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Magic, pure magic! Thanks for posting that.

Actually, vague recollections of having seen the coverage before, on the BBC. I believe it was Steve Rider doing the commentary. He mentions McRae a few times, and I immediately thought of Colin, but of course it was his dad, Jimmy, back in 1988. Showing my age now McRae was in the Sierra Cosworth.

That M3 still looks great today, doesn't it? A classic. The M3 and the Sierra Cosworth battled in the British Touring Car Championship, as well as in rallying.

Better cut off here before I start getting all nostalgic...

Again, thanks for this,

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omg!! i wish i could drive like that!
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that could be, didn't know that in rally they didn't use the 2.5l. I just know the fastest / most powerful M3 E30 had the 2.5l capable of 340hp at the end and most importantly where NA and had no turbo's (that was the whole point of my comment )
"[Taken from Jeremy Waltons "BMW 3 Series" book; "The last official quote for the 2.5 racer was 375bhp at 8750 rpm coupled to 290Nm (213 lb-ft) torque between 7000 and 8000rpm.
I don't know much about camshaft combinations for these engines, there are a few others on here who could tell you what to use on a rally engine. I wouldn't expect the peak torque figure to be much different though, "rally cams" just tend to move the torque lower down and over a wider rpm range, at the expense of top end hp, which is obviously what you need on a rally car. Also rally engines don't generally use slide throttles, throttle bodies (with a "butterfly) give better modualtion or control of the airflow off full throttle. Oh, and the rally engines usually use a 4-2 header, instead of the 4-1 "sprint" header.]"

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