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VYupa55 · 12-28-2010, 07:17 PM

I'm new here and I thinking of trading my evo x for a 335i I found a certified used 2010 manual with m package and cold weather with saddle brown interior for with 6k miles For $45,000 is that a good price or should it be lower
Thanks for the help!!!

jaybird124 · 12-28-2010, 08:21 PM

Are those the only options?

Is there premium package? anything else?

jaybird124 · 12-28-2010, 08:24 PM

Auction prices suggest that car is worth $39-40k. plus $1200 for CPO punch plus any reconditioning they did (new tires etc).
BMW CPO has great incentives for December. I think $42.5-43.5k is a fair offer on your end.

KennyPowers · 12-28-2010, 08:31 PM

There was a guy selling an 09 m sport sedan with 14k for 35k in the classifieds.

I'd keep looking. You can do better.

jaybird124 · 12-28-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyPowers

There was a guy selling an 09 m sport sedan with 14k for 35k in the classifieds.

I'd keep looking. You can do better.

Of course to be fair, that's an 09, this is a 2010 CPO.

VYupa55 · 12-28-2010, 10:53 PM

Yea that's all of them it also has a navi

jaybird124 · 12-28-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by VYupa55

Yea that's all of them it also has a navi

If it has Nav then $45k isnt an outrageous asking price, but still should be some room to negotiate.

dtc100 · 12-28-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VYupa55

Yea that's all of them it also has a navi

So m sport, cold weather, premium and nav? That is a lot more than your initial description. What is the history? Why only 6k miles?

VYupa55 · 12-28-2010, 11:10 PM

The history report says it was bought from an auction then put on sale as a CPO

dtc100 · 12-28-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by VYupa55

The history report says it was bought from an auction then put on sale as a CPO

I am not too sure why the trouble to get it CPOed when it still had all the original factory warranty left. I would still be careful why it went to auction after only 6k miles, if it is clean (no repair history), I will at least try to knock off the CPO cost since the car does not need it.

jaybird124 · 12-28-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VYupa55

The history report says it was bought from an auction then put on sale as a CPO

That's normal and doesn't indicate anything. The majority of pre-owned cars on highline dealers lots are from the auction, not trade in. Besides someone traded it in, what does it matter if it was traded in at a dealership in AZ or TX? Still same year and miles, still traded in. Good to go!

VYupa55 · 12-28-2010, 11:56 PM

then if i get it dropped to 43 then it will be a good deal?

jaybird124 · 12-29-2010, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by VYupa55

then if i get it dropped to 43 then it will be a good deal?

If the tires are in good shape, overall good condition, and you like the rapport you have with the dealer, I'd say go for it.

bmwpride335i · 12-29-2010, 12:12 AM

45K? I say you can start on for 40K. My rule of the thumb is offer about 10% less than initial price because they KNOW they will have to negotiate and thus mark it up a bit when putting advertisement initially. if they want to meet you in the middle, i guess 42K, no more.

MikeyComputers · 12-29-2010, 12:16 AM

12/20/10 MANHEIM Factory $36,000 4,259 Avg
12/20/10 MANHEIM Factory $40,750 5,788 Avg
12/02/10 RIVRSIDE Factory $42,000 8,154 Above
11/19/10 MANHEIM Factory $42,250 9,037 Above ALPWHITE

this is what has sold at auction.. base your prices off this.. they paid less than auction but a dealer 9/10 times won't go lower

remember auction+auction fee+transport

add like 1k to the price

jaybird124 · 12-29-2010, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bmwpride335i

45K? I say you can start on for 40K. My rule of the thumb is offer about 10% less than initial price because they KNOW they will have to negotiate and thus mark it up a bit when putting advertisement initially. if they want to meet you in the middle, i guess 42K, no more.

What do you base $42k off of?

VYupa55 · 12-29-2010, 12:18 AM

k ill start at 40k then start the negotiation from there

dtc100 · 12-29-2010, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jaybird124

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Originally Posted by VYupa55

The history report says it was bought from an auction then put on sale as a CPO

That's normal and doesn't indicate anything. The majority of pre-owned cars on highline dealers lots are from the auction, not trade in. Besides someone traded it in, what does it matter if it was traded in at a dealership in AZ or TX? Still same year and miles, still traded in. Good to go!

I didn't mean auction is not normal but at 6k miles it is. I will try the best to check out it's history, don't want to end up with a buyback.

jaybird124 · 12-29-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by dtc100

I didn't mean auction is not normal but at 6k miles it is. I will try the best to check out it's history, don't want to end up with a buyback.

My bad. Gotcha.

If it's CPO it can't be a buyback. It would have already shown up.

09328i · 12-29-2010, 02:08 AM

I find it very strange that a dealership would CPO a 2010 with 6k miles. I was under the impression that older model years with low mileage or newer ones with high mileage were CPO'd as the factory warranty would soon run out. Basically they are including a warranty you do not need and charging you for it. I second the idea of negotiating for the price minus the cost of CPO.

dtc100 · 12-29-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jaybird124

My bad. Gotcha.

If it's CPO it can't be a buyback. It would have already shown up.

A buyback is not always a lemon or a salvage title, it can be CPOed. As the other poster above echoed my point, a car at this low miles has pretty of original warranty left there is no need to pay for the CPO cost, I wonder why the dealer even bother to CPO it, have them show the CPO document, make sure they are not just trying to make some quick money without having to put any real money in, on the other hand, if CPO is necessary for a car at 6k, that can be a bad sign.

Check out the history of that car, I know at 6k it can be difficult but still you can find out at least where it was originally sold and what was done to it, if any. If you know for sure it is clean, estimate what the CPO cost to the dealer, at least take that amount off.

I also agree when it comes to a used car at this price level, don't hesitate to start at $5k off the asking, I would even do more, the worst you can hear is a no.

Remeber this is the buyer's market, not the seller's.

ceb · 12-29-2010, 09:43 AM

Remember that a manual transmission can have a major negative impact on prices.

While enthusiasts like MTs, the fact is that 95% of the population does not and that makes MT cars much harder to sell and depresses prices. Most cars at the Manheim auction are Autos.

12-28-2010, 07:17 PM	#1
VYupa55 New Member Drives: 08 Mitsubishi evo Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rockland county Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	BMW price help I'm new here and I thinking of trading my evo x for a 335i I found a certified used 2010 manual with m package and cold weather with saddle brown interior for with 6k miles For $45,000 is that a good price or should it be lower Thanks for the help!!!
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12-28-2010, 08:21 PM	#2
jaybird124 Captain Drives: '09 335d Sport Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 815 iTrader: (0)	Are those the only options? Is there premium package? anything else? __________________ '09 335d Alpine White/Beige Dakota, Sport, Premium, Cold Weather, iDrive, PDC, CA, iPod, Premium Sound Retired: '93 325i \|'99 Jeep Wrangler Sport \|'06 330i Sport \|'08 335i Sport \|'08 328i Sport

12-28-2010, 08:24 PM	#3
jaybird124 Captain Drives: '09 335d Sport Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 815 iTrader: (0)	Auction prices suggest that car is worth $39-40k. plus $1200 for CPO punch plus any reconditioning they did (new tires etc). BMW CPO has great incentives for December. I think $42.5-43.5k is a fair offer on your end. __________________ '09 335d Alpine White/Beige Dakota, Sport, Premium, Cold Weather, iDrive, PDC, CA, iPod, Premium Sound Retired: '93 325i \|'99 Jeep Wrangler Sport \|'06 330i Sport \|'08 335i Sport \|'08 328i Sport

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09328i Private First Class Drives: e90 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 166 iTrader: (7)	I find it very strange that a dealership would CPO a 2010 with 6k miles. I was under the impression that older model years with low mileage or newer ones with high mileage were CPO'd as the factory warranty would soon run out. Basically they are including a warranty you do not need and charging you for it. I second the idea of negotiating for the price minus the cost of CPO. __________________ 2009 e90 328i Blk/Blk 30% Tint, Black Grilles, M6 Reps, Carbon Fiber Trim, Intake, Cyba Scoops

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12-28-2010, 08:31 PM	#4
KennyPowers Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 1,874 iTrader: (11)	There was a guy selling an 09 m sport sedan with 14k for 35k in the classifieds. I'd keep looking. You can do better.

12-28-2010, 10:53 PM	#6
VYupa55 New Member Drives: 08 Mitsubishi evo Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rockland county Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	Yea that's all of them it also has a navi

12-28-2010, 11:10 PM	#9
VYupa55 New Member Drives: 08 Mitsubishi evo Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rockland county Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	The history report says it was bought from an auction then put on sale as a CPO

12-28-2010, 11:56 PM	#12
VYupa55 New Member Drives: 08 Mitsubishi evo Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rockland county Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	then if i get it dropped to 43 then it will be a good deal?

12-29-2010, 12:12 AM	#14
bmwpride335i Major Drives: 07 SUPERCHARGED 680HP VETTE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,344 iTrader: (1)	45K? I say you can start on for 40K. My rule of the thumb is offer about 10% less than initial price because they KNOW they will have to negotiate and thus mark it up a bit when putting advertisement initially. if they want to meet you in the middle, i guess 42K, no more.

12-29-2010, 12:16 AM	#15
MikeyComputers Captain Drives: 2007 335i 6mt White/red Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Williston Park new york Posts: 610 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335i [3.00]	12/20/10 MANHEIM Factory $36,000 4,259 Avg 12/20/10 MANHEIM Factory $40,750 5,788 Avg 12/02/10 RIVRSIDE Factory $42,000 8,154 Above 11/19/10 MANHEIM Factory $42,250 9,037 Above ALPWHITE this is what has sold at auction.. base your prices off this.. they paid less than auction but a dealer 9/10 times won't go lower remember auction+auction fee+transport add like 1k to the price

12-29-2010, 12:18 AM	#17
VYupa55 New Member Drives: 08 Mitsubishi evo Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rockland county Posts: 5 iTrader: (0)	k ill start at 40k then start the negotiation from there

12-29-2010, 09:43 AM	#22
ceb NHTSA Nazi Drives: 335ix Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD Posts: 1,975 iTrader: (1)	Remember that a manual transmission can have a major negative impact on prices. While enthusiasts like MTs, the fact is that 95% of the population does not and that makes MT cars much harder to sell and depresses prices. Most cars at the Manheim auction are Autos.