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      12-05-2010, 11:41 AM   #45
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Nobody's mentioned the Chrysler/Plymouth Prowler? Sure, as a car it was absolutely awful, but as a collectible- well it looks good, it has a lot of personality, and it was produced in low volume, so I think it ticks all the right boxes.


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One other Mustang worth mentioning. Saleen s351.

this one is based on the Cobra R right?
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this one is based on the Cobra R right?
no, and it won't be worth much....ever
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The Solstice GXP coupe may become collectible because such a tiny number of them were built, even though in of itself it's not a particularly interesting car.

GM built around 1,100 Solstice coupes with an unknown split between regular and GXP.

I think the Prowler will end up being somewhat tainted because it's always been viewed as somewhat of a knockoff of a real street custom / hot rod.

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The Solstice GXP coupe may become collectible because such a tiny number of them were built, even though in of itself it's not a particularly interesting car.

GM built around 1,100 Solstice coupes with an unknown split between regular and GXP.

I think the Prowler will end up being somewhat tainted because it's always been viewed as somewhat of a knockoff of a real street custom / hot rod.
I drove a Solstice GXP once and was pretty disappointed. Steering feel was non-existent and the brakes were trash. The impression I got from it was that it was the S2000's retarded cousin.

And as much as I LOVE the E39 M5, idk if it can count in this tread because it started at $69,970 (although it most definitely can be had for around $20 for a decent one)
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this one is based on the Cobra R right?
Not based on the Cobra-R. Supercharged 351ci pushrod motor.


Saleen's supercharged S351 Mustang would be inexcusable if it weren't so fast. It's a fiend with so much brute torque the driver feels as if he could pull both the Titanic and the ocean floor beneath it up out of the North Atlantic. Through corners, it's as effective and subtle as a leopard clamping his jaw down on a zebra's femur. The S351 is for fanatics-those few people with $60K to spend who value sheer performance over sophistication, comfort, or the prestige of a luxury nameplate (and who just have to have a Mustang).

Saleen is a small-volume manufacturer, not a tuner, and the S351 is almost a completely un-Ford Mustang. Saleen starts with a base Mustang, rips out the V-6, and replaces it with a version of Ford's venerable 351-cubic-inch (5.8-liter) OHV V-8. Using TFS "twisted wedge" aluminum heads, the intake manifold from the old Lightning pickup, and a Vortech centrifugal supercharger produces, Saleen claims, 495 horsepower at 5500 rpm and 490 pound-feet of torque at 4500 rpm. Behind that is the Dodge Viper's Borg-Warner T56 six-speed transmission, and the rearend is packed with a hydraulic Gerodisc differential. The brakes are upgraded to 13-inch-diameter Alcons up front, and the suspension is lowered over a set of 18-inch five-spoke wheels wearing P245/40ZR18 front and P295/35ZR18 rear Michelin Pilot SX tires. The interior gets leather Recaro front seats, white-face gauges (including a 200-mph speedo and a dashtop boost gauge), and body-color trim.


Click to view GallerySaleen has done Mustangs long enough to know and apply every trick and subtlety from front camber adjustment plates through a composite hood and on to beefed lower rear control arms. Despite hellacious power, the S351's chassis is never overwhelmed, which, considering the Mustang's basic architecture, is amazing. That simple structure does, however, transmit tire noise into the passenger compartment, and bumps aren't something the suspension subdues peacefully.

Handling is remarkably neutral, and the limits are very high. The rabid blitz through the slalom averaged 70.8 mph, faster than every production car but the Viper GTS, Ferrari F355, and Porsche 911 Turbo. While much credit goes to the splendid Michelins, the differential is equally impressive. The distribution of torque is managed so that the rear end remains composed through every transition and stays planted under acceleration. Unfortunately, by the end of its stay with us, that diff was slipping.


Click to view GalleryIt takes two hands to select reverse in the short-throw shifter and the throttle travel is abrupt for casual cruising about town, but on the track it's magic. Launched modestly, the S351 ingested the quarter mile in 12.9 seconds at 116.8 mph and barged to 60 in 4.6 seconds. It's Ferrari-level performance that challenges even the venomous Viper GTS. But it takes a steady hand to extract it.

Even the barbaric Viper, though, seems a garden snake compared to the Saleen's rude steed. Civilized buyers need not apply.




1998 Saleen S351 Mustang
Base price $56,990
Price as tested $60,000 (est.)
ACCELERATION
0-30 mph 2.1
0-40 mph 3.1
0-50 mph 3.9
0-60 mph 4.6
0-70 mph 5.9
0-80 mph 7.0
0-90 mph 8.3
0-100 mph 10.1
Quarter mile, sec/mph 12.9/116.8
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 112
Slalom, 600-ft, mph 70.8
Skidpad, 200-ft, lateral g 0.92



Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz176EZ383W
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Not based on the Cobra-R. Supercharged 351ci pushrod motor.


Saleen's supercharged S351 Mustang would be inexcusable if it weren't so fast. It's a fiend with so much brute torque the driver feels as if he could pull both the Titanic and the ocean floor beneath it up out of the North Atlantic. Through corners, it's as effective and subtle as a leopard clamping his jaw down on a zebra's femur. The S351 is for fanatics-those few people with $60K to spend who value sheer performance over sophistication, comfort, or the prestige of a luxury nameplate (and who just have to have a Mustang).

Saleen is a small-volume manufacturer, not a tuner, and the S351 is almost a completely un-Ford Mustang. Saleen starts with a base Mustang, rips out the V-6, and replaces it with a version of Ford's venerable 351-cubic-inch (5.8-liter) OHV V-8. Using TFS "twisted wedge" aluminum heads, the intake manifold from the old Lightning pickup, and a Vortech centrifugal supercharger produces, Saleen claims, 495 horsepower at 5500 rpm and 490 pound-feet of torque at 4500 rpm. Behind that is the Dodge Viper's Borg-Warner T56 six-speed transmission, and the rearend is packed with a hydraulic Gerodisc differential. The brakes are upgraded to 13-inch-diameter Alcons up front, and the suspension is lowered over a set of 18-inch five-spoke wheels wearing P245/40ZR18 front and P295/35ZR18 rear Michelin Pilot SX tires. The interior gets leather Recaro front seats, white-face gauges (including a 200-mph speedo and a dashtop boost gauge), and body-color trim.


Click to view GallerySaleen has done Mustangs long enough to know and apply every trick and subtlety from front camber adjustment plates through a composite hood and on to beefed lower rear control arms. Despite hellacious power, the S351's chassis is never overwhelmed, which, considering the Mustang's basic architecture, is amazing. That simple structure does, however, transmit tire noise into the passenger compartment, and bumps aren't something the suspension subdues peacefully.

Handling is remarkably neutral, and the limits are very high. The rabid blitz through the slalom averaged 70.8 mph, faster than every production car but the Viper GTS, Ferrari F355, and Porsche 911 Turbo. While much credit goes to the splendid Michelins, the differential is equally impressive. The distribution of torque is managed so that the rear end remains composed through every transition and stays planted under acceleration. Unfortunately, by the end of its stay with us, that diff was slipping.


Click to view GalleryIt takes two hands to select reverse in the short-throw shifter and the throttle travel is abrupt for casual cruising about town, but on the track it's magic. Launched modestly, the S351 ingested the quarter mile in 12.9 seconds at 116.8 mph and barged to 60 in 4.6 seconds. It's Ferrari-level performance that challenges even the venomous Viper GTS. But it takes a steady hand to extract it.

Even the barbaric Viper, though, seems a garden snake compared to the Saleen's rude steed. Civilized buyers need not apply.




1998 Saleen S351 Mustang
Base price $56,990
Price as tested $60,000 (est.)
ACCELERATION
0-30 mph 2.1
0-40 mph 3.1
0-50 mph 3.9
0-60 mph 4.6
0-70 mph 5.9
0-80 mph 7.0
0-90 mph 8.3
0-100 mph 10.1
Quarter mile, sec/mph 12.9/116.8
Braking, 60-0 mph, ft 112
Slalom, 600-ft, mph 70.8
Skidpad, 200-ft, lateral g 0.92



Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz176EZ383W
the 1995 SVT Cobra R also had a 351cui 5.8LV8(N/A) Engine, saleen cars are based on existing mustangs. By the look of it, saleen did took some inspiration from the 95R.
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1990 - 2005 NSX
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2000 - 2009 S2000
Cobra R
Saleen S351 Mustang
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The OP said under 50k none of those 911's are under 50 , nor a couple of other cars you mentioned.
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1990 - 2005 NSX
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1997, 1998, 2000 and 2001 Integra Type-R
2000 - 2009 S2000
Cobra R
Saleen S351 Mustang
1993- 1998 Supra
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993 Turbo (the last air cooled boxer motor)
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I want a slant nose 930 SO BAD
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The OP said under 50k none of those 911's are under 50 , nor a couple of other cars you mentioned.
lol yeah I just can't help myself.

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They look so good and so rare.
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They look so good and so rare.
For real. Once I get good enough, I want to daily drive the "widowmaker"

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How did I forget that. I want one of those too
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Agree on these two! Even throw in the Buick T-Type but for sure the Mustang SVO! Those are ultra rare and I've not been able to find one worth the effort. Also liked the Formula 350 firebirds of the late 80's early 90's before the bubbly body came. :P GMC Cyclone and Typhoon! 1990 300ZX TT was the first of the "new" sports car shapes for the affordable group. Dad had one of those and that was madness for back then. That car was a game changer for all!
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