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      12-23-2010, 11:23 AM   #133
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What 1/4 mile numbers are you comparing your friends uberfast 328i, because Im sure as hell he isn't in the 13's. Maybe you are new to drag racing, but even a tenth of a second is a huge difference.
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      12-23-2010, 12:05 PM   #134
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dtc100 you always seem to be the 0.01% arguing against the 99.99% in every thread, ever consider maybe you're just wrong?
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Earnienew is sittin back with a big ol' bag of Orville Redenbacher's right about now, as are quite a few people I'm sure.
Reading this thread is like watching some crazed dodo running at a brick wall over and over...and over...and over.....and...........



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      12-23-2010, 02:01 PM   #136
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What 1/4 mile numbers are you comparing your friends uberfast 328i, because Im sure as hell he isn't in the 13's. Maybe you are new to drag racing, but even a tenth of a second is a huge difference.
There is a thread in here, a stock 328i guy did his K&N/carbon delete/air scoop mods, his 1/4 went from 99 mph to 110 mph, his buddies' stock 335i was at 119 mph.

Now if he drops 60 lbs at the wheels, that will equate to a 30 hp gain, it would not surprise me if his 328i can match his buddies' stock 335i.
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      12-23-2010, 02:44 PM   #137
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      12-23-2010, 03:31 PM   #138
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If you don't have anything better to say don't say it.

I am proving real evidence for those who are experts to discuss here, obviously you can't understand because you can't even feel comfortable with the presence of a PBX, so let the experts talk.
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If you don't have anything better to say don't say it.

I am proving real evidence for those who are experts to discuss here, obviously you can't understand because you can't even feel comfortable with the presence of a PBX, so let the experts talk.
dude just give up...... Let it die.
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dude just give up...... Let it die.
What can't face the real evidence that proves a 328 can match a STOCK 335 with $2k mods?

If any of you self claimed experts have the balls to face the evidence I will have a little more respect for you.
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      12-23-2010, 04:20 PM   #141
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There is no evidence until there are time slips posted . The testing he did with his friends don't mean shit , really testing is done at a drag strip not a road with visual markers n00b. I know exactll who your talking about and what thread it is. Also weight reduction doesn't produce power lol do I dunno where you got 30hp from ... Just like a lightened flywheel doesnt produce power or like weight reduction doesn't produce power ..

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      12-23-2010, 04:24 PM   #142
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This is his theory os testing which in no way is practical or real . Yiu ask any pro drag racer or even a novice about testing a car this way and they will laugh in your face . I have trCked cars before . Here is the info your going off of Dtc100 and this is the exact statement he put in his thread ...

And I could not be more astonished.

To everyone saying it is barely noticeable, i Am very sorry, but it really is.

Thing is, My old air filter was very dirty, so I had gotten used to the slugishness. Now, on the freeway, above 70mph, my car pulls like I have never felt before. It is absolutely noticeable, and is amazing.

Even the 0-60 has gotten way better... For example, there is a strip of straight road by my house, which is very flat, and has white checkered lines and yellow flashing lights at the end, and rarely any traffic. This is how my friends and I test our cars, to see the speeds we hit before the white line.

My car before :99 mph
My car after: 110 mph (HUGGEEEE DIFFERENCE)


For funsies:

335i: 119
e46 m3: 118
Camaro v6: 100
m5: 134
650i : 120
Chevy Malibu SS: 115
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There is a thread in here, a stock 328i guy did his K&N/carbon delete/air scoop mods, his 1/4 went from 99 mph to 110 mph, his buddies' stock 335i was at 119 mph.

Now if he drops 60 lbs at the wheels, that will equate to a 30 hp gain, it would not surprise me if his 328i can match his buddies' stock 335i.
My 328i is pretty quick at this point but I know I wouldn't be able to match a stock 335i E90. BTW dropping 50lbs only equals to about a 10hp gain.
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      12-23-2010, 04:47 PM   #144
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Im to lazy to read the back and forth argument so can someone tell me who is winning?
its accually quite funny nobody is reading one person corrected the other guy but what he said was contradicting to who he is backing up lol..

then again i think im lost toooo can't blame him if im right
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      12-23-2010, 04:54 PM   #145
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My 328i is pretty quick at this point but I know I wouldn't be able to match a stock 335i E90. BTW dropping 50lbs only equals to about a 10hp gain.
Keep in mind we are talking dropping 60lbs AT THE WHEELS, which by conservative measure is the same as dropping 300 lbs, so how much hp gain is this you say?

As to Euro, you just proved my point, no one can prove anything to you, as soon as evidence is provided you will dismiss it. On another thread when people showed a race track test between a 335is and an S5 and the 335is won, the Audi people just dismissed it as the race driver did not know how to drive an AWD

Here I don't even care what you can do on a race track, we are not even interested in tracking. The fact is, he improved his 1/4 by 12 mph, now within 8 mph of his buddy in the 335i, and he had not considered lowering his weight at the wheels yet.

Those are facts, and we are interested in what regular folks can do to improve their cars, not on tracks, but for daily driving, so eat it Euro.

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Wow , please go read the thread again .. That's not quarter mile times and you even posted it in the thread as well lol so what world or planet you live on? Google the website called dragtimes and that's facts for you dumbass . Those are real numbers and slips posted by drivers which also Show the mods they have on their cars . And what you just typed is all incorrect as well.. Go look in the thread n00b

Here is Dtc100s so called proof: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462518

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dtc do you think you're some genius and everyone here is a moron? There are thousands of people on this board that KNOW what they are talking about. You are just speculating. 1,000 posts on this board and still you dont know how things are done here. DYNO/DRAG SLIP or it never happened. End of story

Once again we are not interested in your hearsay.
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      12-23-2010, 06:09 PM   #148
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Thank you AlexOsma , by the way nice 1/4 time esp for a 60' time like that .
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Thank you Alex
I measured the map, it was actually very close to a ¼ test, I proved it by taking into some correction factors. Initially folks said it could not be ¼ mile because the mph was too high, but after taking into consideration of the speedometer reading over compensations, they were in fact close to ¼ mile readings. I actually measured on the map to verify the distance was around ¼ miles, but that is not even the point.

Here is where you are clueless, it does not even have to do with what was the distance at all. Good drivers, bad drivers, good road, bad road, good car, bad car, as long as all conditions are equal, if a shitty driver drives the same car, on the same road, with the exact same testing methods, if he can gain 12 mph, for whatever miles you want to call it, it is because his car gained power to get him that extra 12 mph, period.

Nothing changed, except the intake mods for his 328. How much HP gain was from the intake mod? I know you want to say shit, others may say up to 20 hp, how about we go middle of the road, call it 10 hp?

The fact is, that 10 hp gained him 12 mph over whatever the distance they were testing. Maybe it was actually ½ mile, regardless. If by losing 60 lbs of weight at the wheels, basically dropping the weight of the car by 300 lbs, you don’t think he can pick up another 8 mph on the same stretch of the road to match the 335i he tested?
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What can't face the real evidence that proves a 328 can match a STOCK 335 with $2k mods?

If any of you self claimed experts have the balls to face the evidence I will have a little more respect for you.
Are you saying you have brass balls because you stand up to conventional knowledge? Because I would say you have down syndrom because of that.......

The fact remains, 230hp plus the 10 you can get with the PBX, 20 you can get with the header and 5 you can get with the euro airbox = 265..... that is equal to a stock 330i. Now lets see here, 330i<335i so take your 2k and shove it. GTFO noob.

Oh and all of the above numbers have been PROVEN on a dino. They dont multiply when added together, and the PBX MIGHT help a header add MAYBE 2-3 extra on top of what it would gain without it.
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Are you saying you have brass balls because you stand up to conventional knowledge? Because I would say you have down syndrom because of that.......

The fact remains, 230hp plus the 10 you can get with the PBX, 20 you can get with the header and 5 you can get with the euro airbox = 265..... that is equal to a stock 330i. Now lets see here, 330i<335i so take your 2k and shove it. GTFO noob.

Oh and all of the above numbers have been PROVEN on a dino. They dont multiply when added together, and the PBX MIGHT help a header add MAYBE 2-3 extra on top of what it would gain without it.
Why did you leave out the 300 lbs weight loss? What are you afraid of?
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Roughly a 100lbs equals a tenth of a second shaved off
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Why did you leave out the 300 lbs weight loss? What are you afraid of?
Oh im sorry your equiviant for that is 10 HP (stretching it)(and where the fuck did you get 300 lbs from? did you leave your fat ass wife at home?)(oh and one more thing, good lightweight rims cost more than 2k so eat it), so your grand total comes up to 275. Congratz 275 does not = 300 please go back to college and take a math class. Any questions?

Oh and btw craven didnt get his 20 HP with just a header, he also modified his entire exauhst. So unless your friend has all that, then your fail. TY and have a good night mr down syndrom.

oh btw this is you


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Roughly a 100lbs equals a tenth of a second shaved off
What about mph difference at the 100 mph range?
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