[**335i**]

HPF http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...nt_Mount/16586 or

helix http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...17#post8542517

post your opinions, thanks

[Forcefed3]

HPF

[Trojan4evr]

HPF

[Brian135i]

ER Full kit!

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by **335i**

HPF http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...nt_Mount/16586 or

helix http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...17#post8542517

post your opinions, thanks

Is this even a question? HPF is second to NO ONE in the BMW world. The Helix fmic is great, but the question is....do you want the BEST fmic?

[**335i**]

i saw that hpf install bolt on and looks nice and real not too big and not to high as most air goes from lower grilles, and as other ic are very high and the bumper and the support blocks majority of the intercooler top and bottom and HPF ic looks really good designed

[Bimmer This]

It's all personal preference. All IC's work the same way.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by **335i**

i saw that hpf install bolt on and looks nice and real not too big and not to high as most air goes from lower grilles, and as other ic are very high and the bumper and the support blocks majority of the intercooler top and bottom and HPF ic looks really good designed

Correct you are my friend, Those huge fmic's also block the radiator more than the HPF fmic does, which can result in higher water temps...which translates into higher oil temps which this car is already plagued from...why would you block the radiator from keeping water temps down? If it translates into higher oil temps and your car goes into limp mode because you were running it too hard.....are you gonna be able to use those couple of extra hp you gained from the fmic if you are in limp mode? To me, mods arent only about a number, its about functionality, USEABLE numbers, and most of all....safety.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by Bimmer This

It's all personal preference. All IC's work the same way.

LOL, you have got to be kidding me right?

[lostomni]

Same questions here.. I'm in the market also.. dang so many. I was also looking at AMS.

[Bagelfast]

AMS, HPF both are really nice. Stett's FMIC is aswell nice, Really big like the AA IC.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by 1LUMI335

AMS, HPF both are really nice. Stett's FMIC is aswell nice, Really big like the AA IC.

STETT, AA, big tom, and cxracing all have something in common, you let me know when you figure it out...

[**335i**]

bigger doesnt mean better

"the reason is that the air flow will go through the section we designed from top to bottom but the thickness will cool it since i twill have constant airflow through the intercooler" by HPF

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by **335i**

bigger doesnt mean better

yes you are correct, but look at the picture of all of them. They dont look REALLY SIMILAR to you? Look at that...then look at the price diff. in all of them, kinda crazy right. SOMEBODY is making hand over fist on these things.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by **335i**

bigger doesnt mean better

"the reason is that the air flow will go through the section we designed from top to bottom but the thickness will cool it since i twill have constant airflow through the intercooler" by HPF

That exactly what I said here:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=465917&page=2

[Bagelfast]

Originally Posted by Penn999

STETT, AA, big tom, and cxracing all have something in common, you let me know when you figure it out...

I see what your saying, i dont perfer the AA,Stett, etc. over the HPF/AMS/Helix, but just another option to consider.

IMO, HPF, AMS, HELIX are at the top of the game on the IC end.

[Penn999]

Originally Posted by 1LUMI335

I see what your saying, i dont perfer the AA,Stett, etc. over the HPF/AMS/Helix, but just another option to consider.

IMO, HPF, AMS, HELIX are at the top of the game on the IC end.

I agree, I was just trying to point out that AA, STETT, bigtom, and cxracing are the practically the same IC, but the price differences are absurd. Lets just throw a label on it and double the price. I am a fan of both AA and STETT on almost all of their OTHER upgrades. This one, I feel they have greatly overlooked bc the largest gains outside of a chip are FMIC and DP's. Would you want to be slacking on a key component of your car's HP/tq and driveability? I sure dont...One last thing to think about, the FMIC and intakes are your only sources of air, everything after these components(downpipes, exhaust, turbos, and most importantly your ENTIRE engine) are affected by the fmic's and intake's performance...Just something to think about

[Bagelfast]

I aswell agree there Penn.. Im always a mix and match type of guy usually when it comes to performance. N54 is no different, sometimes there is not just one company that makes everyting great for a engine.

OP the HPF, HELIX, AMS are all great, and most opinion will come in form of who has what. But overall the performance of these i would say are close to similar across the board. Connections from the IC to the OEm piping would be the biggest difference between them which would be a matter of what what you like more.

[MF80]

Dang...
Another thread of best intercooler...
And people would fight endless for what they're into...lol

[**335i**]

nobody is fighting we try to help each other thats why this forum is based on

[Bagelfast]

Originally Posted by JsTech

Dang...
Another thread of best intercooler...
And people would fight endless for what they're into...lol

Originally Posted by **335i**

nobody is fighting we try to help each other thats why this forum is based on

Yup, i think were agreeing

[Iwantm3]

I've installd my HPF yesterday and that was a big pain in the ass so much trimming , however AMS and HELIX probably require as much , HPF is very nice but I wouldn't mind AMS or HELIX either, top 3 fmic's for sure , now I wouldn't doubt BIG TOM either and if you have a little time on your hands that's probably the best bang for the buck, fuck the haters, it looks great and performs great.