Rft=block of ice! - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

alpine335xi · 12-27-2010, 05:00 PM

So i got my car out after the much covered snowmageddon in the northeast and holy crap stock rft are useless. I mean, "I was slithering this way and that I was all fucked up!" even in slush post plow slush I could not stop, turn or accelerate! I read similar posts from people but of course I had to try for myself. Going to tire place this week for some conti dws.

chromisdesigns · 12-27-2010, 05:23 PM

I'n no fan of runflats, but what you describe is summer tire behavior, not RFT. Conventional summer tires would do the same.

Conti DWS are a good choice for light snow or winter conditions, but won't compare with real winter tires.

brio · 12-27-2010, 05:55 PM

No matter what tires you have, you'll always slide on ice. And the RWD doesn't help too much either. I used to live in LI, NY by the way so I've experienced it. There I had an
e46 with all seasons and an e39 w/ all season tires, both sucked in snow/ice.
I also had an e53 X5 and it was OK in light snow, still not the best, but it was the old AWD not this new Xdrive they have now.

cb1111 · 12-27-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by brio

No matter what tires you have, you'll always slide on ice. And the RWD doesn't help too much either. I used to live in LI, NY by the way so I've experienced it. There I had an
e46 with all seasons and an e39 w/ all season tires, both sucked in snow/ice.
I also had an e53 X5 and it was OK in light snow, still not the best, but it was the old AWD not this new Xdrive they have now.

The OP appears to have AWD, but it sounds like he has summer tires.

It is these types of "isolated storms" that are the reason why people should buy winter tires.

brio · 12-27-2010, 06:49 PM

Oops sorry, missed that but agreed winter tires are the answer

E60orBust · 12-27-2010, 06:56 PM

The compound in most summer tires turns the tires in to hockey pucks when the temp drops below freezing. Don't ask me how I know

Phil G. · 12-27-2010, 07:34 PM

Have stock Bridgestone RF's on our 328xi's and Pirelli PZero Nero's my Audi TT 3.2Q. Snow today near Philly was no problem for any of our cars. But, you guys are right - I would never run my TT with the 19" PS2's in the winter. They turn to stone under 35-40 degrees and are very dangerous in snow. Swap them out every November and April.

hipnotic · 12-27-2010, 07:51 PM

change up your tires

alpine335xi · 12-27-2010, 07:52 PM

Yeah they are summer tires I guess I just needed to see for myself b4 bucking up 800 for new tires. I think I'll be fine xi with conti dws after reading various reviews.

cb1111 · 12-27-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by alpine335xi

Yeah they are summer tires I guess I just needed to see for myself b4 bucking up 800 for new tires. I think I'll be fine xi with conti dws after reading various reviews.

While the Conti DWS' are good tires, they really aren't suited to the weather we've been getting in the last couple of years.

Perhaps you should consider a winter tire set on a second set of wheels.

chowser51 · 12-27-2010, 08:43 PM

i have conti dws and they are ok in light snow, but i have a dedicated set of snow tires/wheels that i put on for the winter time. i have had no issues driving with the winter setup.

12-27-2010, 05:00 PM	#1
alpine335xi New Member Drives: alpine white 335xi 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: nyc Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	Rft=block of ice! So i got my car out after the much covered snowmageddon in the northeast and holy crap stock rft are useless. I mean, "I was slithering this way and that I was all fucked up!" even in slush post plow slush I could not stop, turn or accelerate! I read similar posts from people but of course I had to try for myself. Going to tire place this week for some conti dws.
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E60orBust Captain Drives: "The Brothers //M-Sport" E90/2 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MD Posts: 601 iTrader: (0)	The compound in most summer tires turns the tires in to hockey pucks when the temp drops below freezing. Don't ask me how I know __________________ Down for Maintenance

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Phil G. First Lieutenant Drives: 328xi Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maple Glen, PA Posts: 317 iTrader: (1)	Have stock Bridgestone RF's on our 328xi's and Pirelli PZero Nero's my Audi TT 3.2Q. Snow today near Philly was no problem for any of our cars. But, you guys are right - I would never run my TT with the 19" PS2's in the winter. They turn to stone under 35-40 degrees and are very dangerous in snow. Swap them out every November and April. __________________ Phil G. 2009 BMW 328i (x-Drive) e-90 and e-92!, 2010 Audi A4 Prem+, 2008 Audi TT Roadster S-Line

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12-27-2010, 05:23 PM	#2
chromisdesigns Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 BMW 335i sedan Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,741 iTrader: (0)	I'n no fan of runflats, but what you describe is summer tire behavior, not RFT. Conventional summer tires would do the same. Conti DWS are a good choice for light snow or winter conditions, but won't compare with real winter tires.

12-27-2010, 05:55 PM	#3
brio Private First Class Drives: '06 e90 330i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 118 iTrader: (1)	No matter what tires you have, you'll always slide on ice. And the RWD doesn't help too much either. I used to live in LI, NY by the way so I've experienced it. There I had an e46 with all seasons and an e39 w/ all season tires, both sucked in snow/ice. I also had an e53 X5 and it was OK in light snow, still not the best, but it was the old AWD not this new Xdrive they have now.

12-27-2010, 06:49 PM	#5
brio Private First Class Drives: '06 e90 330i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 118 iTrader: (1)	Oops sorry, missed that but agreed winter tires are the answer

12-27-2010, 07:51 PM	#8
hipnotic Major General Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: So. Cal Posts: 6,543 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 335i coupe [3.50]	change up your tires

12-27-2010, 07:52 PM	#9
alpine335xi New Member Drives: alpine white 335xi 6MT Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: nyc Posts: 26 iTrader: (0)	Yeah they are summer tires I guess I just needed to see for myself b4 bucking up 800 for new tires. I think I'll be fine xi with conti dws after reading various reviews.

12-27-2010, 08:43 PM	#11
chowser51 Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 BMW 328i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 263 iTrader: (1)	i have conti dws and they are ok in light snow, but i have a dedicated set of snow tires/wheels that i put on for the winter time. i have had no issues driving with the winter setup.