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      06-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #7921
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makes sense

you need methanol injection dude
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makes sense

you need methanol injection dude
I need DP's and exhaust next. Or maybe M-Sport rear bumper with CF diff.

I won't touch methanol, out of my comfort zone. I'll just get water misters to spray on the FMIC...
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Does the Cobb AP hide CEL codes when you have downpipes?
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Does the Cobb AP hide CEL codes when you have downpipes?
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I'll just get water misters to spray on the FMIC...
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I need DP's and exhaust next. Or maybe M-Sport rear bumper with CF diff.

I won't touch methanol, out of my comfort zone. I'll just get water misters to spray on the FMIC...
LMFAO!!!

I feel ya I dont feel comfortable with it either.

If anyone needs meth it'd be me. It was 109 here today and summer's just getting started. But this being my DD, and only car, and I dont want to have to be adding another fuel to the vehicle that needs filling, etc., etc. just seems like way to much unless it's a track car or just a Sunday ride kinda thing.

Then if it blows up you still have other means of transportation.
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I ma newb, a quick question...how much horse power gain I will get if I just only reprogram my 2009 335i with this tune only?
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I ma newb, a quick question...how much horse power gain I will get if I just only reprogram my 2009 335i with this tune only?
On Stage 1 Agressive 93 octane, I would say 60-70 at the crank.
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Is water misting the FMIC actually done? Kinda makes sense.
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Is water misting the FMIC actually done? Kinda makes sense.
i know someone that has done the install (WW tank with gardening sprinklers) but no data yet
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Is water misting the FMIC actually done? Kinda makes sense.
A guy from Aquamist told a guy i know that the best place for meth bungs is on intercooler piping, not cp...interesting!
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A guy from Aquamist told a guy i know that the best place for meth bungs is on intercooler piping, not cp...interesting!
I think people are confusing two different discussions here. Misting the IC with water EXTERNALLY can help to prevent heat soaking and it can help to bring the IC temps back down once it does get heat soaked. However, a more effective route to take is to use CO2 sprayers. Neither are as effective for CAT control as meth injection though.

As far as water/meth injection goes ideally you want it as far up from the TB as you can get it, in the hot side IC end tanks if possible. People use CP with meth nozzles because it still works well and is the easiest means.
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I think people are confusing two different discussions here. Misting the IC with water EXTERNALLY can help to prevent heat soaking and it can help to bring the IC temps back down once it does get heat soaked. However, a more effective route to take is to use CO2 sprayers. Neither are as effective for CAT control as meth injection though.

As far as water/meth injection goes ideally you want it as far up from the TB as you can get it, in the hot side IC end tanks if possible. People use CP with meth nozzles because it still works well and is the easiest means.
agreed on bold text. thanks for the other info. was not aware that people actually do look to cool the IC. you learn something new every day.
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Hey sorry for the nooobie question but whats the best AP map to run...dci intakes, ER charge pipe w/ synapse bov and axle back exhaust. Than what would be the best AP map to run when my VRSF dps get installed, they haven't arrived yet. I'm new to moddin my n54 so any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
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Hey sorry for the nooobie question but whats the best AP map to run...dci intakes, ER charge pipe w/ synapse bov and axle back exhaust. Than what would be the best AP map to run when my VRSF dps get installed, they haven't arrived yet. I'm new to moddin my n54 so any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
If you have 93 octane you can start with stage 1 agg., once you add your dps move up to stage 2 agg., and then while your at it get a nice fmic so you can run stage 2 + agg.
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Hey sorry for the nooobie question but whats the best AP map to run...dci intakes, ER charge pipe w/ synapse bov and axle back exhaust. Than what would be the best AP map to run when my VRSF dps get installed, they haven't arrived yet. I'm new to moddin my n54 so any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks
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If you have 93 octane you can start with stage 1 agg., once you add your dps move up to stage 2 agg., and then while your at it get a nice fmic so you can run stage 2 + agg.
S1+ has higher gains than S2.

So IMO go with FMIC before DP's. But yes, CT335xi is correct, but always log to be sure your car is happy.
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S1+ has higher gains than S2.

So IMO go with FMIC before DP's. But yes, CT335xi is correct, but always log to be sure your car is happy.
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate the quick response! Which FMIC would you recommend and 5" or 7"? Should I stick to VRSF FMIC since the dps are that brand? Thanks again
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Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate the quick response! Which FMIC would you recommend and 5" or 7"? Should I stick to VRSF FMIC since the dps are that brand? Thanks again
According to a response I got from them while I was still deciding the 5" requires no cutting, and the 7" does require a little trimming.

In case you missed my helix FMIC review a few pages ago I dont suggest that one.

If I had it to do over again I would probably get this:

http://www.wagner-tuning.com/BMW-335i-Upgrade-Intercooler-Kit_p_10.html







The Wagner Tuning BMW 335i Intercooler Evolution Kit is a high performance redesign of the original OEM intercooler designed specifically for the BMW Tuning Enthusiast.

Our engineers have increased the intercooler core size and efficiency, as well as improved the end tank design to remove any OEM bottlenecks, resulting in increased flow rating and charge cooling properties.

Constructed of the highest quality Bar and Plate intercooler cores combined with cast aluminum and then CNC end tanks for reliable high performance air to air charge cooling.OEM+ Fit and finish for easy installation.The Wagner Tuning BMW 335i Intercooler Upgrade Kit features:

High-performance 520mm x 210mm x 150mm 13,572 cm� flow rate stepped Intercooler Core vs. OEM 510mm x 130mm x 110mm 7293cm� flow rate
CAD / FEM optimized cast aluminum end tanks
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85% more intercooler face area vs. OEM
90% larger air flow vs. OEM
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^ It even has tabs to hold the Radiator fan in place. Something I really like about it, the Helix has none. So the bottom of your radiator fan is just flopping around in there... Very poor design IMHO. In fact this is the only one I can recall seeing which has tabs to hold the radiator fan in place.

I don't see how the aftermarket can be so dumb and entirely miss the boat something so simple as the tabs to hold the Rad fan in place?

Plus the "J pipe" and silicon hoses from the Helix didn't fit at all, and all have to be modified and cost extra for the J pipe. The Wagner looks like it might actually fit into the car as intended..... Kinda like the stock one did, you know without cutting pieces off and things flopping around unmounted...

and it's pretty cheap...
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I have the jb4 g4 and I need to upgrade it to g5 because I'm getting the rb turbos
I understand i need the Cobb ap for the best tuning, so I need uninstall the jb?
I don't understand what is the difference between them?!
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I have the jb4 g4 and I need to upgrade it to g5 because I'm getting the rb turbos
I understand i need the Cobb ap for the best tuning, so I need uninstall the jb?
I don't understand what is the difference between them?!
COBB is a flash tune through you OBDII. You can run both but need the proper tuning. There a threads out there that cover this.
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