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      05-30-2005, 08:39 AM   #1
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Question regarding reverse gear for e90 stick

I'm used to the reverse gear being on the right side of the gearbox but I know german cars have them right next to first. For the e90 do you have to press the stick in and then go to reverse or can you just go into reverse? Also, which do you guys prefer? It seems kind of dangerous to me because you can go into reverse by mistake in foward traffic.
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      05-30-2005, 09:24 AM   #2
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you have to push it quite strongly to the left beyond the first gear. If thereīs any danger of you doing so accidentally, you lack the finesse to be driving a stick in the first place. That layout has been on BMW sticks for at least 30 years and very few have ever launched in the wrong direction.
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      05-30-2005, 09:48 AM   #3
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It wont allow you to go into reverse while moving
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      05-30-2005, 10:03 AM   #4
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And when you pass that "click" point, you KNOW you have and can correct it. In my 2 years of driving a bmw, I have never gone into reverse once unintentionally. It's not a problem.

I am actually more "affraid" of reverse being on the right. Imagine cruising on the highway and you by mistake shove it into reverse. ALOT worse than if you're at a stop and going into first eh? Yes. I thought so. It's better on the left, right next to it's buddy...no1
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      05-30-2005, 10:16 AM   #5
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It wont allow you to go into reverse while moving
How do yōu know? Have you ever tried?
I know I havenīt..
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      05-30-2005, 10:33 AM   #6
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How do yōu know? Have you ever tried?
I know I havenīt..
Its probably an educated guess. On most cars the syncro locks you out of reverse when you have forward motion.
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      05-30-2005, 11:15 AM   #7
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Its probably an educated guess. On most cars the syncro locks you out of reverse when you have forward motion.
In my friends mazada, and couple of ford cars they told me it locked while moving.
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      05-30-2005, 12:33 PM   #8
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I may be dating myself but, at 51, I have driven so many different kinds of vehicles with so many different types of transmissions that, for me, any worry of where reverse is located is not a consideration. Get what you want and drive it for a couple of days and it becomes a no-brainer. I just got back from my e90 ED (had the car 6 days) and never once had any issues about mistaking reverse for any other gear and I haven't driven a manual tranny for five years on a regular basis.
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      05-30-2005, 12:52 PM   #9
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Thanks for the info guys. Actually, I don't have much experience in driving stick but decided to get it on my first car because I want to enjoy driving and not think of it as a chore.
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      05-30-2005, 12:53 PM   #10
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I doubt anyone other than the most hamfisted person in the world will have a problem. Getting into reverse gear requires a significant amount of extra force to the left to pass the gate.
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      05-30-2005, 05:29 PM   #11
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dont worry about it you will never be able to put the car in reverse when you want to go forward b/c it takes quite a bit of strenght to put it in reverse (unless you are a muscle man).
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      05-30-2005, 05:50 PM   #12
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I had a 97 M3 sedan (yes, sedan) and the only problem with reverse was when the guy at the car wash put it in reverse and hit the car behind him.....no damage but it could have been worse. I can see how he honestly thought he was putting it in first gear. BE CAREFUL WHO YOU GIVE THE KEYS TO and TELL THEM ABOUT REVERSE!!!
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I've rebuilt many transmissions, and yes there is no way to 'accidentally' put it into reverse if the car is moving forward. If you go to: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/transmission5.htm there is an excellent article on how manual transmissions work (including syncros), very interesting and easy for layfolks.
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I beg to differ mate

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And when you pass that "click" point, you KNOW you have and can correct it. In my 2 years of driving a bmw, I have never gone into reverse once unintentionally. It's not a problem.

I am actually more "affraid" of reverse being on the right. Imagine cruising on the highway and you by mistake shove it into reverse. ALOT worse than if you're at a stop and going into first eh? Yes. I thought so. It's better on the left, right next to it's buddy...no1
One big problem I had a quite a few years ago when I had to actually drive my friend's beamer. The beamer was parked near the edge of a cliff (about 50 cm or so from the edge) and the ground was slanting towards the cliff as well . Before I release the hand-brake, I had to get down of the car and see if the rear lights were on, just to be sure that I was in reverse. Now what would have happened if I couldn't get out of my car? This is why I believe the Reverse gear should be in opposition to the First gear like in japanese cars
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One big problem I had a quite a few years ago when I had to actually drive my friend's beamer. The beamer was parked near the edge of a cliff (about 50 cm or so from the edge) and the ground was slanting towards the cliff as well . Before I release the hand-brake, I had to get down of the car and see if the rear lights were on, just to be sure that I was in reverse. Now what would have happened if I couldn't get out of my car? This is why I believe the Reverse gear should be in opposition to the First gear like in japanese cars
WTF?

I think it's time you give up driving! Who sets the brake, hops out, and checks if the reverse lights are on to confirm they are in reverse????


WTF^2.....
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Honestly, anyone who cannot determine the state of gear engagement should not be driving a manual transmission.
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Note to self: never let srub4 borrow car
Or Wrickem. I've mistakenly put it into reverse instead of 1st more than once.
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I've hit reverse instead of 1st a couple times. Usually when I'm not paying attention at a light and end up putting to much force on the shifter when rushing to start off.
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If you get the BMW ssk, you will not mistaken reverse for first. It takes my skinny coworkers a few tries to put it in reverse due to the required effort
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