Thanks To Cobb AccessPort I have a new Fuel pump :) - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Derek B · 01-28-2011, 09:37 PM

I recently purchased the Cobb AccessPort for the 335i, I had to download my ROM and send it to Rob at Cobb to have my DME added to the list for Auto transmissions. Everything went fine and Rob got my ROM added within two hours. I installed the AccessPort stage 1 93 into the car. My 335 ran great no problems the only thing that happened was a check engine light was on after the install which disappeared after a few key cycles. I decided to do a scan to see if any codes remained in the DME after flashing. I found three DME codes P29f3= Fuel pressure sensor electrical , P2fa3=Coding Missing, & P2aae= Fuel Pump. I contacted Rob and he let me know what each code meant, he stated that alot of 335's have fuel pump issues and that I should unmarry the AccessPort and take it into the dealer for service.

The whole reason why I'm writing this is to say the dealer replaced the fuel pump, fuel pressure sensor and reprogramed the car with a new ISTA DME program. Old one was E89x-08-09-530 New ILEVEL E89X-10-12-503, I have no idea what all this means but car runs smooth.
HERE IS THE KICKER in order for BMW to allow all of this to be replaced under warranty they had to get permission from BMW headquarters. They ran a full check on the computer in the car THEY FOUND NOTHING AS IF THE ACCESSPORT WAS NEVER THERE TO BEGIN WITH. Don't get me wrong I did everything Rob told me to do but it is still nice to know that you can have a tune and not have to worry about the dealer giving you a hard time about the computer being flashed previously.
Here are the invoices that I got back. I believe that I got the newest fuel pump out, But I have no idea on the reprograming aspect of encoding the DME.

Thanks to Cobb for all of your help,

Derek

Al Blue4.6l · 01-28-2011, 10:14 PM

very interesting.

BmwFanFL · 01-28-2011, 10:24 PM

Great news for the n54 flash situation and Cobb. The rumor mill was starting to suggest you couldn't even think about the AP without being detected.

Nice work Cobb. Also, great news for the platform as any other answer would be bad news for many.

Regards,

Dan

Smitty1 · 01-28-2011, 10:27 PM

Yeah that is great to hear!

Thanks for the info, I'm glad someone put it to the test.

Rob@Cobb · 01-28-2011, 10:29 PM

Hey Derek,

Glad I could help. Enjoy your new pump and power!

Cheers,
Rob

gboop · 01-28-2011, 10:32 PM

OP - Did you ever have any driveability problems, long cranks, or check engine
light come on BEFORE you installed the AP?

I am not implying that the AP caused your failure, but it may have
hastened the demise of an othwerwise failing pump?
The straw that broke the camel's back so to speak?

MB135i · 01-28-2011, 10:35 PM

^ yea good point

Enicinitas · 01-28-2011, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gboop

OP - Did you ever have any driveability problems, long cranks, or check engine
light come on BEFORE you installed the AP?

I am not implying that the AP caused your failure, but it may have
hastened the demise of an othwerwise failing pump?
The straw that broke the camel's back so to speak?

Does this mean that they went through a PUMA case? I doubt it. I'm hoping other people will chime in. I'm still hedging that a full fledged PUMA will bite a flash in the rear - I would love to be proved wrong though

Rob@Cobb · 01-28-2011, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gboop

OP - Did you ever have any driveability problems, long cranks, or check engine
light come on BEFORE you installed the AP?

I am not implying that the AP caused your failure, but it may have
hastened the demise of an othwerwise failing pump?
The straw that broke the camel's back so to speak?

A tune may shorten an ailing pump's life. Pumps have shown to fail in several different ways. Some die very slowly where you get the increasing cranking as time goes on leading into stumbling. Some are in the middle area where semi long cranks turn into a completely dead pump in the middle of passing on the highway. Some pumps flat out blow up out of nowhere. Some last 500 miles and some last 50k+ miles. However, the pumps have a 100% failure rate whether tuned or not.

The codes, as Derek saw, will be in the ECU silently until a major fault happens. Installing or checking the codes with the AP will show/uncover the issue early.

Jeff Perrin's pump died after several pulls. My car is still going strong after a 1000+ pulls over 8 months or so.

Cheers,
Rob

Smitty1 · 01-28-2011, 11:03 PM

Ok, I got the service engine light too, right after installing the AP.

But it went away. The first time I started the car before driving it.

Now, tomorrow I'm going to scan the ECU with the cobb and see what codes I have.

Overboost · 01-28-2011, 11:14 PM

Not to discredit Cobb but fuel system parts on the bmw are quite easy to get replaced now. One of my close friends is a tech so i hang out at the dealership a lot and it only takes an email with stated fault codes to get fuel system parts now, and depending on the code they dont even need permission from BMW headquarters. Dealers even have new fuel pumps and injectors in stock because they are expecting to replace quite a few.

Derek B · 01-28-2011, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob@Cobb

Hey Derek,

Glad I could help. Enjoy your new pump and power!

Cheers,
Rob

Hey Rob,

I just sent you another email Lol , I guess after the reprograming now the AccessPort does not identify my 335i. I sent you a new ROM Dump file. I did not know that by reprograming the DME that I would have to start all over again. I should have tried to reinstall The AccessPort when I got home then I could have sent you the file earlier, but I had a party I had to attend tonight. Thanks again for all of your help.

Derek

Derek B · 01-28-2011, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gboop

OP - Did you ever have any driveability problems, long cranks, or check engine
light come on BEFORE you installed the AP?

I am not implying that the AP caused your failure, but it may have
hastened the demise of an othwerwise failing pump?
The straw that broke the camel's back so to speak?

No I never had any long cranks or anything, Just saw the code on the AP.

Which in turn the dealer saw it too.

SennaZ · 01-28-2011, 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overboost

Not to discredit Cobb but fuel system parts on the bmw are quite easy to get replaced now. One of my close friends is a tech so i hang out at the dealership a lot and it only takes an email with stated fault codes to get fuel system parts now, and depending on the code they dont even need permission from BMW headquarters. Dealers even have new fuel pumps and injectors in stock because they are expecting to replace quite a few.

+1.

I think if you told them you smelled gas in the morning they would automatically replace your hpfp

That, and reflashing your ecu is a reflex action these days.

Clap135 · 01-28-2011, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek B

Hey Rob,

I just sent you another email Lol , I guess after the reprograming now the AccessPort does not identify my 335i. I sent you a new ROM Dump file. I did not know that by reprograming the DME that I would have to start all over again. I should have tried to reinstall The AccessPort when I got home then I could have sent you the file earlier, but I had a party I had to attend tonight. Thanks again for all of your help.

Derek

Did you update your ap to the latest beta released earlier today? IT had a butt load of new roms on it.

Derek B · 01-28-2011, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clap135

Did you update your ap to the latest beta released earlier today? IT had a butt load of new roms on it.

Yeah, I sure did. Maybe its new because it was just done today.

its IJEOSIEB3S, it used to be IGDOSIEB5

Clap135 · 01-28-2011, 11:52 PM

You def got the 2.40 software that people were talking about, curious to see how long it takes Cobb to flash you.

Derek B · 01-28-2011, 11:57 PM

I have BETA Firmware 1.6.3.2-1275

Derek B · 01-29-2011, 12:02 AM

Hey Clap did I get the best Fuel pump out ?
1 13-51-7-616-446

Clap135 · 01-29-2011, 12:09 AM

If by best, you mean newest, then yes. No such things as best fuel pump on this car lol

Juiced46 · 01-29-2011, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enicinitas

Does this mean that they went through a PUMA case? I doubt it. I'm hoping other people will chime in. I'm still hedging that a full fledged PUMA will bite a flash in the rear - I would love to be proved wrong though

PUMA does not get involved with the replacement of pumps, injectors or the reprogramming anymore. In the past that was the case. Now the tech just follows the bulletin. No authorization needed from BMW at all.

phil_ · 01-29-2011, 09:34 AM

I got my fuel pump replaced a few months back and I had to wait an hour until they got approval from BMW Germany (SA owns words).

01-28-2011, 09:37 PM	#1
Derek B Enlisted Member Drives: Black 335I Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 43 iTrader: (0)	Thanks To Cobb AccessPort I have a new Fuel pump :) I recently purchased the Cobb AccessPort for the 335i, I had to download my ROM and send it to Rob at Cobb to have my DME added to the list for Auto transmissions. Everything went fine and Rob got my ROM added within two hours. I installed the AccessPort stage 1 93 into the car. My 335 ran great no problems the only thing that happened was a check engine light was on after the install which disappeared after a few key cycles. I decided to do a scan to see if any codes remained in the DME after flashing. I found three DME codes P29f3= Fuel pressure sensor electrical , P2fa3=Coding Missing, & P2aae= Fuel Pump. I contacted Rob and he let me know what each code meant, he stated that alot of 335's have fuel pump issues and that I should unmarry the AccessPort and take it into the dealer for service. The whole reason why I'm writing this is to say the dealer replaced the fuel pump, fuel pressure sensor and reprogramed the car with a new ISTA DME program. Old one was E89x-08-09-530 New ILEVEL E89X-10-12-503, I have no idea what all this means but car runs smooth. HERE IS THE KICKER in order for BMW to allow all of this to be replaced under warranty they had to get permission from BMW headquarters. They ran a full check on the computer in the car THEY FOUND NOTHING AS IF THE ACCESSPORT WAS NEVER THERE TO BEGIN WITH. Don't get me wrong I did everything Rob told me to do but it is still nice to know that you can have a tune and not have to worry about the dealer giving you a hard time about the computer being flashed previously. Here are the invoices that I got back. I believe that I got the newest fuel pump out, But I have no idea on the reprograming aspect of encoding the DME. Thanks to Cobb for all of your help, Derek Last edited by Derek B; 01-29-2011 at 05:34 PM.
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Overboost Second Lieutenant Drives: Monaco Blue 335i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 288 iTrader: (0)	Not to discredit Cobb but fuel system parts on the bmw are quite easy to get replaced now. One of my close friends is a tech so i hang out at the dealership a lot and it only takes an email with stated fault codes to get fuel system parts now, and depending on the code they dont even need permission from BMW headquarters. Dealers even have new fuel pumps and injectors in stock because they are expecting to replace quite a few. __________________ PROCEDE V5, AR CATLESS DP's, HELIX FMIC, ER CHARGE PIPE AND TIAL BOV, OHLINS ROAD AND TRACK COILOVERS, INJEN INTAKE, AWD TURBO UPGRADE, VISHNU PWM METHANOL INJECTION, AMS CATBACK EXHAUST, M3 FRONT SUSPENSION COMPONENTS,VOLK RE30 19X9F 19X10R W/ YOKOHAMA ADVAN AD08 265/275

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01-28-2011, 10:14 PM	#2
Al Blue4.6l Private First Class Drives: 2009 e89 Z4 sDrive35i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: VA Posts: 140 iTrader: (0)	very interesting.

01-28-2011, 10:24 PM	#3
BmwFanFL Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 - 335i - Cobb stg 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Very Hot, Humid, Southeast Posts: 216 iTrader: (0)	Great news for the n54 flash situation and Cobb. The rumor mill was starting to suggest you couldn't even think about the AP without being detected. Nice work Cobb. Also, great news for the platform as any other answer would be bad news for many. Regards, Dan

01-28-2011, 10:27 PM	#4
Smitty1 Private Drives: 335I Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: OKlahoma Posts: 70 iTrader: (0)	Yeah that is great to hear! Thanks for the info, I'm glad someone put it to the test.

01-28-2011, 10:29 PM	#5
Rob@Cobb BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 2011 E92 335i ///M Pack Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 468 iTrader: (0)	Hey Derek, Glad I could help. Enjoy your new pump and power! Cheers, Rob

01-28-2011, 10:32 PM	#6
gboop Second Lieutenant Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: GTA Posts: 260 iTrader: (1)	OP - Did you ever have any driveability problems, long cranks, or check engine light come on BEFORE you installed the AP? I am not implying that the AP caused your failure, but it may have hastened the demise of an othwerwise failing pump? The straw that broke the camel's back so to speak?

01-28-2011, 11:03 PM	#10
Smitty1 Private Drives: 335I Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: OKlahoma Posts: 70 iTrader: (0)	Ok, I got the service engine light too, right after installing the AP. But it went away. The first time I started the car before driving it. Now, tomorrow I'm going to scan the ECU with the cobb and see what codes I have.

01-28-2011, 11:52 PM	#17
Clap135 Brigadier General Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House Posts: 3,466 iTrader: (1)	You def got the 2.40 software that people were talking about, curious to see how long it takes Cobb to flash you.

01-28-2011, 11:57 PM	#18
Derek B Enlisted Member Drives: Black 335I Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 43 iTrader: (0)	I have BETA Firmware 1.6.3.2-1275

01-29-2011, 12:02 AM	#19
Derek B Enlisted Member Drives: Black 335I Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 43 iTrader: (0)	Hey Clap did I get the best Fuel pump out ? 1 13-51-7-616-446

01-29-2011, 12:09 AM	#20
Clap135 Brigadier General Drives: 2009 N54 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sticky's Mom House Posts: 3,466 iTrader: (1)	If by best, you mean newest, then yes. No such things as best fuel pump on this car lol

01-29-2011, 09:34 AM	#22
phil_ Private First Class Drives: E60 M5 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NA Posts: 173 iTrader: (1)	I got my fuel pump replaced a few months back and I had to wait an hour until they got approval from BMW Germany (SA owns words).